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A43724	A continuation of The dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker wherein the truth of those things objected against them in the first part, are fully confirm'd : together with a further account of their perilous and pernitious errors concerning the person of Christ, His satisfaction, justification, sanctification, the ministry, and immediate motions are in this second part, cleerly and plainly represented out of the writings of some of their principal, and most approved leaders / published for the common information of such as either really are, or may be, in danger of being insnared and intangled by them by Thomas Hicks.	Hicks, Thomas, 17th cent.	1673 (1673)	Wing H1919; ESTC R21822	53,818	100

A CONTINUATION of the DIALOGUE BETWEEN A Christian and a Quaker WHEREIN The truth of those things objected against them in the first part are fully confirm'd TOGETHER With a further account of their perilous and pernitious Errors CONCERNING The Person of Christ His Satisfaction Justification Sanctification The ministry and Immediate Motions Are in this Second PART Cleerly and plainly represented out of the Writings of some of their Principal and most Approved Leaders Published for the Common Information of such as either really are or may be in danger of being Insnared and intangled by them By Thomas Hicks Tit. 1.10 11. For there are many unruly and vaintalkers and deceivers whose mouthes must be stopped who subvert whole houses teaching things which they ought not for filthy lucre sake 2 Tim. 3.9 But they shall proceed no further for their folly shall be made manifest to all men LONDON Printed for Peter Parker at the Leg and Star in Cornhill over against the Royal Exchange 1673. The Epistle to the Reader Reader SAtan's great design against Religion is manag'd and carryed on partly by error and partly by persecution by that he instills such notions into the minds of men as may teach them to deny it by this he would affright and terrifie them from it The mischeifs he hath wrought by the former the age where into our lot is faln gives us but too many instances The people with whom I have to deal though they are least concerned with yet pretend to the greatest interest in the truth who being not satisfied with those wayes and methods God hath reveal'd and prescribed in the holy Scriptures have broken all bounds cast off the yoak the known rule and follow only such impulses and motions as hath been given in from him who designs nothing short of their ruine by such strategems which are so much the more malignant and effectual towards his intended end by how much they are more grateful to that proud opinion they have of themselves Some account of their perillous opinions in and about several important points of the Christian Faith hath heretofore been given unto you unto which I have long been threatned with a solid Answer though as yet I have not seen any that peice of impertinency which G. Whitehead hath sent abroad inno the World I suppose though not so call'd yet intended for an answer wherein I am rather vindicated then answered most or all the material things in difference he passeth by in silence I have in this second part presented you with a more full relation of their dangerous Tenets wherein the truth of my former Allegations against them are from their own mouths fully established and all Objections that hitherto have occur'd to my knowledge are taken notice of all which I shall leave to thy serious Judgment Many of the things objected against them are so Horrid that 't is probable some will not believe them culpable God forbid that I should be guilty of such vile injustice as to charge them with false things examine the quotations and then judge As for those instances that are not in print I have such undoubted evidences of their truth as may satisfie any man From the whole thou may'st be inform'd that the Quakers Christ and way of Salvation is Forreign to what is revealed in the Scriptures The Doctrines delivered by them are such as neither themselves nor any for them can give us a distinct intelligible account of The tendency of all their writings and declarings doth but lead people into the thickets of absurd inexplicable and unintelligible Dotages They amuze us with the great words of Life and Power pretend as if they lived under the immediate Influences though alas such is their unhappiness they embrace a cloud feed on ashes and know not that a lye is in their right hand and which is the more astonishing many people not distinguishing between words and things pretences and reall injoyments are so easily entrapped and deceived by them but what shall we say If God for the wantonness of persons under the means of Light should give them up to a reprobate sense to strong delusions to believe lyes to follow and admire such monsters in Religion that they may be damned because they received not the Truth in the love of it hence when I consider that God to glorifie his Justice in punishing the wickedness of men doth permit the Enemy to distract their minds and to set them on madding after they know not what on purpose to divert them from those things which are of immediate concernment to them I say the consideration hereof lessens my wonder when I see such delusions and impostures prevail Though to see a people under the Immediate Judgment of God fancying themselves to be the non-such of the World for priviledges and injoyments is I confesse matter of deep Lamentation and Pity 'T will be therefore our interest and Wisdome to consider before it be too late both what we do and who and what we believe We are hastning towards Eternity To miscarry about our last end will not only be unhappy but it will prove the utmost complement of our unhappiness By nature we are all sinners and stand guilty before God if we be unprovided of a meet Righteousness wherewith to appear before the great Tribunal it will be of perilous consequence That a compleat Righteousness should be spun out of our own bowells our laps'd condition consider'd is impossible That Jesus Christ in his Mediatory undertakings for sinners should be improved by us is apparently deny'd by these Quakers so that all mankind are left according to their principles under a fatal necessity of perishing For if the way and means which God's infinite Wisdom Will hath constituted in order to mans eternal welfare be rejected in●…in will it be for us to think of another That thus it is with these People the ensuing Dialogue will give you sufficient grounds to conclude The person of Christ they plainly deny and positively affirm That the Doctrine of rejoycing and acceptance from the works of another is utterly excluded W. Pen Sa. Foun p. 27. And that God accepts not any in whom there is any failing who do not fulfill the Law and answer every demand of Justice And when they talk of the blood of Christ they delude their hearers or readers For by that blood they mean nothing but the Life and Light within At the same instant they are pleading for Perfection they will discharge you from duty except you be Immediatly moved thereunto as if their perfection consisted in being stocks and stones or which is worse in being rebels against the Law of God Their discourse for the most part is about the Light within yet the Light is not more contrary to Darkness than their Dictates are about this thing What one of them saith another of their own will contradict What one man at one time affirms he himself will deny at another One

Penn Apol. p. 148. Chr. Is there no other Righteousness by which the Saints are justified then what Christ works onely in them Quak. Thou Beast to whom the Plagues of God are due and upon whom the wrath of God must be accomplish'd who wouldst have another Righteousness then that which Christ works in the Saints Edw. Burroughs Works p. 32. Chr. Is not this to disclaim the Doctrine of Justification by an imputed Righteousness Quak. Thou wrongst us and our Principle for imputative Righteousness as truly consider'd in the Scriptures we do not disclaim G. Whitehead Apol. p. 37. Chr. I have great reason to believe that G. W. dissembles in these words for in the same page he disclaims them that deny the Righteousness of Christ within for Justification and also saith That justification by the Righteousness of Christ without us is not Scripture language who will believe his complaint of wrong whilst he so apparently confesseth the truth of what is objected against you as will abundantly appear from what follows what righteousness is that upon the account of which we are justified Quak. Justification is not from the imputation of anothers Righteousness but from the actual performing and keeping of Gods righteous Statutes Pen. Sand. Found p. 25. Chr. Is it not written Rom. 5.19 By the Obedience of One many were made righteous Quak. It is a great abomination to say God should condemn and punish his innocent Son that he having satisfied for our Sins we might be justified by the imputation of his perfect Righteousness O why should this horrible thing be contended for by Christians Penn Ibid. p. 25. 30. Chr. How now Mr. Penn is the Doctrine of Christ's Sufferings for Sinners to make satisfaction to Divine Justice an horrible thing and an abomination to you do you consider what you say Quak. This I do say That the consequences of such a Doctrine is both irreligious and irrational Pen. Ibid. p. 16. Chr. What then doth the Scripture intend in saying Christ died for the ungodly Rom. 5. And he was made sin for us 2 Cor. 5. And on him was laid the Iniquities of us all Isa 53. Quak. I caution and warn men by no means to entertain this principle of Christ's dying to make satisfaction to Divine Justice by whomsoever recommended Pen. Ibid. Chr. Be free and plain with me How and in what respect is Christ said to fulfil the Law and to die for Sinners Quak. He fulfil'd the Law onely as our pattern or example Pen. Ibid. p. 26. Christ is so far from telling us of such a way of being justified as that be informs us the reason why he abode in his Fathers love was his Obedience he is so far from telling as of being justified by vertue of his Obedience imputed that unless we keep the Commands and obey for our selves In all which Christ is but our example Pen Ibid. Chr. But are men indeed justified by their own works Quak. Was not Abraham justified by works n●… must not conceive as the dark imputations of the Age that Abrahams personal offering was not a justifying Righteousness Pen. Ibid. p. 30. Chr. Was not Abraham justified before he did personally offer up Isaac ye● doth not the Scripture intimate that Abraham was not justified by works see Rom. 4.2 3 4 5 6 7. And do not you Mr. Penn elsewhere tell us That such are run into a narrow strait who venture to reconcile Merit and Grace See your caveat against Popery p. 12. where you also say That Grace is a free gift requiring nothing and now ask Was not Abraham justified by works and that good works may be said to procure deserve or obtain Apolog. 198. Is this to write like an infalible Dictator But do you really believe that Abraham's offering personally was his justifying Righteousness Quak. I do say Abraham had not the imputation of anothers Righteousness to him his personal Obedience was the ground of that just imputation Pen. Sand. Found p. 30. Chr. If Abraham was justified by works as you argue why did the Apostle onely take notice of his offering up of Isaac and not of the whole course of his Obedience If a man be justified by works before God surely it cannot be by one single action such as Abrahams offering was but by a continued holy and innocent life But is our personal Obedience the very ground and reason of Gods reckoning and accounting us righteous Quak. I do maintain that good works may be said to procure doserve or obtain in which sense without good works there is no acceptance with God and Abrahams personal offering was the ground of that just imputation Penn. God accepts not any where there is any failing or who do not fulfil the Law and answer every demand of Justice Edw. Burroughs supra Chr. Then the ground of our rejoycing and acceptance is not in and from the Righteousness of another viz. of Christ imputed to us by Faith but onely in a righteousness inherent in us and done by us Quak. The Doctrine of rejoycing and acceptance from the works of another is utterly excluded Pen. Sandy Found p. 27. Chr. Doth not this render the undertakings of Jesus Christ as a Mediatour and Surety a meer fancy If the ground of a mans rejoycing be in himself why doth the Apostle give it as the Character and property of a true Christian to rejoyce in Christ Jesus Phil. 3. And what signifie those words Christ is made unto us Righteousness wherefore let him that glorieth glory in the Lord 1 Cor. 1.30 31. And what did the Prophet Isaiah intend cap. 45 24 25. Surely shall one say in the Lord have I Righteousness in the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified and shall glory Are we no farther concern'd in the Obedience and Sufferings of our Lord Jesus without us then onely as our example or pattern Quak. What more wouldst thou have I have told thee That Christ fulfil'd the Law but onely as our example Chr. Do you not then notoriously equivocate and dissemble when you say That Christs Birth Blood Offering Death Mediatourship Covenant his being Priest Prophet and King is owned according to the Scriptures and all the Prophesies of him Innocency with open face p. 38. Is the owning of Christ onely as our example all that the Scriptures and Prophesies of him signifie Can you imitate him in his Mediatourship can you lay down your lives and take them up again Have you the same fulness of the Godhead in you he had that you can follow him in the same Obedience Can you execute the Office of Priest Prophet and King in the same manner and perfection which Christ did and doth We know very well how ever you palliate you believe no such thing that your words seem to import For when you talk of Christs Birth Blood Death c. you intend no more but the light in you in its variety of manifestations therefore if possibly thou canst answer directly what

where and pointed them to him Crucifyed in them Keith ibid. 75 76. Chr. Is the command of God onely given to and obeyed by this Seed Qu. The Spirit both as a rule manifests the promise exerciseth faith in and fulfills the promises G. Whitehead Christ ascend p. 10. Chr. Is the Spirit of promise both the Rule and the Subject Qu. I have told thee To the mind which is carnal the commands of Christ are not given And that the Spirit not only as a Rule manifests the promises but exerciseth faith Chr. Then your Ministry is onely God preaching to himself giving rules to himself and obeyed onely by himself Will you prate of your Infallibility and yet talk like mad-men Had you not lost your common reason and were absolutely infatuated you would not dictate after this manner is it not high time for you to renounce these follies that are so apparently manifest or will you choose rather than to take shame to your selves to persist in your errors to your utter undoing Be advised before it be too late think not that because you are under the bewitching influence of your own self-flattery that therefore all is well you must passe under another Judgment than your own though you will wickedly take upon you to adjudg others to their eternal state yet you will find that neither them nor your selves shall be determined by your judgments If any of you are offended with me for opposing the Christian to the Quaker let them know I cannot I dare not write contrary to my own light and Judgment I do not believe a true Quaker such as these before quoted is a Christian but on the contrary do look upon them as the most implacable enemies to the Christian religion that these days have brought forth How can I think otherwise since you deny the Person of Christ And all your talk of redemption by him issues only in this He redeems himself Your Idle nonsensical and blasphemous prating of God teaching the seed that is to say himself in man renders you to me to be men Inspired by Satan That you do but mock and delude men when you talk of the Covenant of grace is evident for you understand it not But openly maintain a Covenant of works For you affirm that God accepts not any who do not fulfill the law and answer every demand of Justice And render all that Jesus Christ did for us without us no more but a meer example If we ask you concerning your opinions Presently we are call'd Reprobates and judg'd to be in the sorcery and witchcraft let us urge you to be plain you put us off with your witnessings if in one place you seem to own the truth in another you will in down-right terms deny it let this be signified to you Then Immediately you curse us so that no man knows when nor how to believe you If we speak you to a single person you reprove us for not using the pure language If we say thou to an Individua●… Quaker you will upbraid us with Jeering or hypocrisie you bid us follow the light within us And if we do so you will load us with most bitter revilings you will Appropriate to your selves the priviledge of Infallibility and at as if you were unaccountable either to God or man for what you say or do Though your sentiments neither agree with the Scriptures you●… selves nor the common reason of mankind yet will you Impose upon us and that under the severest censures the belief of your unknown and unintelligible doctrines You are as vile Impostors as ever were for you will insinuate your lying doctrines with lyes perswade many credulous and ignorant yet welmeaning people that you indeed believe what in truth you do not And accuse your Adversaries of that wherein they are innocent your manner is not to convince us of error but to conclude us so right or wrong If any miscarriage be that must be improved to make the truth it self odious neither do you only undermine religion but your principles Improved are destructive to all humane society you tell us 't is witchcraft to take up a command from the Scriptures And that is no command to me which is a command to another If then a father command his child The child may reply Thou must wait for my obedience till I be moved The like may every subject and servant plead If a merchant fell you his goods He must stay for his money till you be moved to pay it til which time you are under no obligation in point of duty you say 't is necessary to have things reveal'd to you with respect to your conversation in the world which are not to be found in the Scriptures no not by consequence How then may your creditors be assured it will be reveal'd to you to pay what you owe them Scripture and reason would and do teach you herein but these you must be dead unto who knows then what may or may not be reveal'd to you 'T is not unknown that a Revelation hath been pretended to excuse the payment of a just debt And why may not that which hath been even amongst you be again But is it reasonable that men should be baffled out of their just rights by such unjust and wicked pretences go on yet assuredly know that God will bring you to judgment Then you shall know though now you will not by whom such doctrines as these that are and have been the pest and plague of the world and the scandal and reproach of religion were Inspired These things being considered whether you be not either distracted or worse I shall leave with others to think on in the mean while I judg my self sufficiently warranted in opposing the Christian to the Quaker T. H. The Substance of the Quakers Belief in the Points before discoursed compriz'd in this ensuing Catechism for the more easie remembrance of such who are of weaker capacities Quest WHat is your opinion of the Scriptures A. That they are neither a rule to us nor a means to know God nor how to worship him G. Whitehead Thou mayst burn thy Bible and serve God as well without N. Lucas Qu. Is there any thing more made known to you than what is revealed in the Scriptures A. There is a necessity for those under the new Covenant to have things reveal'd to them which are not to be found in the Scriptures particularly not so much as by consequence G. Keith Q. Are we not to obey the commands in the Scriptures A. They who take up a command from the letter and say Christ commands it are in the witchcraft Ed. Burroughs Q. May we not pray for those mercies we want and give thanks for mercies received except we have an Immediate motion and Impulse to do it A. 'T is an error to say We are not to wait for an inward call motion Impulse or Inspiration to pray or give thanks so as to forbear till it be given