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A19668	Fryer Iohn Frauncis of Nigeon in Fraunce A replication to that lewde aunswere, which Fryer Iohn Frauncis (of the Minimes order in Nigeon nigh vnto Paris in Fraunce) hath made to a letter, that his mother caused to be written, and sent to him out of England, in August. 1585. Wherevnto is annexed an aunswere, to that which the same fryer hath written to his father and mother: in defence, and to the prayse of that religion, which he dooth nowe professe: and to the disprayse and defacing of that religion, which is nowe professed in Englande. Whereof the fryer himselfe was a scholler and professor, vntill the yeere 1583. which was the 18. yeere of hys age. VVritten by Robert Crowley. Anno. 1586.	Crowley, Robert, 1518?-1588.; Debnam, Samuel.	1586 (1586)	STC 6091; ESTC S109119	122,478	144

proselite of yours to beléeue all that the Romishe Catholicke Church teacheth although the same bée directly contrary to the scriptures As to make and worship Images to call vppon Angels and saints to repose trust in the worthines of his owne workes to make himselfe a Mediator in suffering for the sinnes of his Parents and Country men to haue an opinion of holines in refrayning the vse of Gods good creatures which are all holy and to be receiued with thankes to God for the vse of them to kisse and worshippe the Reliques of saynts to beléeue the reall presence of Christes bodie in the Sacrament of the Altare to make that Sacrament a sacrifice propi●iatorie for the sinnes of the quicke and the deade c. To conclude if the Romysh Catholicke Church doo teach it he must beléeue it although both reason and scripture doo denye it Into this miserable blindnes you haue by your allurements and perswasions brought many youthes that myght and were like to haue doone good seruice to God and theyr Prince in theyr natiue Countrey you haue caused them to shake of all duetifull obedience to God to theyr Country to theyr Prince to theyr parents and to all that haue béene theyr fosterers and bringers vp in learning and in religious exercises you haue plunged them into the puddle of all popysh superstition and counterfayted religion you haue stolen them from our Captaine Christ and made them souldiours to fyght against Christ vnder the banner of that Antichrist of Rome Thus your proselite hath reported in the discourse of hys peregrination that he was in Rhemes in Fraunce 17. monthes together in company with two hundreth English men almost lacked nothing which argueth that some good portion of your patrimony is spent in the maintenaunce of such English youthes as you haue conueighed thether and to other places beyond the Seas I wyll charge you no furder Take héede to your selues in time Consider that there is a God that séeth your dooinges and knoweth your intents He wil not suffer such dooings vnpunished for euer If you think that the religion that is now allowed of in this Realme by law be not Catholicke séeke your resolution at the hands of such as are learned in the tongues in the liberal artes in the writings of auncient fathers and in the scriptures and are your Countrymen occupied in the seruice of God this our cōmon country Such are able and wil be ready to conferre with you and by their knowledge in the scriptures Doctors artes and tongues to satisfy you and vndoubtedly if you wyll humbly craue it of God ye shall bee satisfyed Remember your duetye towardes GOD your duety towardes your prince your duety towardes your Country and Countrymen Repent purpose and endeuoure to amend that which you haue doone amisse Helpe to bring home againe such as by your meanes haue béene occasioned to stray from Christes fold in this our natiue soyle As you haue béene meanes to drawe them from Christ so vse what meanes you can to bring thē backe againe to Christes folde in Englande If they shall perrish in that schisme whereinto you haue brought them as vndoubtedly they shall if they shall ende in it theyr blou● shalbe required at your handes When your Seminary men tell you that we are the Sci●smaticks and they the Catholicks beleeue them not except they prooue it by Scriptures and probable reasons If wée doo proue both by the Scriptures and by probable reasons that the Church of England is Catholick and the Romysh Church schisu●●ticall why should not you beleeue vs Because they doo knowe that if you shall reade our wrytinges you must néedes yéelde to the truth which you shal sée substantially prooued by vs they put you in feare of curssing or excommunication if you shall reade any thing that is written by any of vs or if you shall giue attentiue héede to any Sermons made by vs which argueth that themselues doo knowe that the trueth is on our sides You are Gentlemen and by naturall and ciuile order you are Frée men suffer not your selues to be ledde and commaunded as blinde and bonde men by these dol●ysh hypocrites which teach you to submit your selues to the decrées precepts and doctrines of men which haue but a vaine shewe of wysedome and not to regarde the wisedome of God contained and taught in the holye Scriptures Collos 2. Your calling and estate in the Common weale of this Realme is worshipfull and your duety is to be ayding to your Prince in the execution of the Lawes made for the preseruation of the state and defence of the liberty of this English nation and wyll you bée the ring leaders in the violating of those good Lawes in sub●erting the state and in turning the liberty into thraldome and bondage God forbidde Our good God in hys good time vsed our noble King Henry the eyght as his meane by whome hée deliuered this noble and free kingdom from the Babilo●icall bondage of Rome and wyll you bring your selues and the whole English nation into the like bondage againe The same our mercif●ll GOD hath by the same Noble Prince and by his Sonne Edwarde and Elizabeth his daughter restored to this English nation the bright shyning light of the Gospell and wyll you bring vppon your selues and vpon vs and vpon all our posterity the palpable Egyptian darknes of Ignoraunce the mother nursse and continuall fosterer of all errour and wiched life God forbidde You are English men God giue you English harts that may neuer yéelde to bee gouerned by forraine power You be christian men God giue you christian hartes that may neuer yéelde to professe Antichristian Religion Suffer not your selfe to be blinded by their colours of antiquity vniuersality and vniformity For when theyr antiquity is compared with ours it is found to be but of yesterdayes hatching where ours is prooued to haue had continuaunce from the time of the first man Their vniuersalitye was neuer so large as the Romaine Monarchie but ours hath alwayes béene and styll is and euer shalbe as large as the whole worlde Theyr vniformity is deuided themselues doo scarsly knowe into howe many seuerall sects whereof not any two can be founde that doo agrée in all poynts but we béeing but one body and one spirit are called in one hope of our calling one Lorde one fayth one Baptisme One God and father of all which is aboue all throughout all thinges and in vs all ●phe 4. I pray you vouchsafe to reade with indifferent iudgment that which I haue written in my Replication and answere to that which Fryer John Fra●ncis of Nigeon in Fraunce hath written to hys Father and Mother And as he hath admonished in the margine of his letter no lesse then seauentéene tunes Reade it thorough or beginne it not euen so haue I sette at the heade of euery page Reade all or reade nothing I haue set down the Fryers wordes euen as he wrote them and as

father hath made his onely begotten sonne Christ Iesus our onely Mediatory yea and the onelie mediator betwixt him and all mankinde 1. Tim. 2. Our mother hath tolde vs that our father hath forbidden vs to beare false witnes against any man But your mother teacheth you to belye all such as she calleth Protestants and to say of all such as you haue in these your Letters written that they are the deuills ministers and that their life is such that if it were knowne to the simple Christians they would not onely wonder at their wilines but also forsake theyr folly Whereas that which you call theyr folly is heauenly wisedome and that which you call wilines in them is simple and true dealing Our mother hath tolde vs that our heauenly father woulde not that we should lust after any thing that belongeth to our neighbour But your mother hath taught you to lust after the kingdom of England which belongeth not to you that be fugitiues and Rebels to haue your Order of Frauncis of Paula to be setled there Yea it séemeth that you are more then halfe assured that it shalbe so For you wryte that you hope that it shall shortly be in Englande I feare me therefore that fugitiue or Rebell is too good a name for you sith you séeme to be ranke Traytors indéede Well I wold wish you to hearkē no lōger to your Romish mother least she bring you at the last to preache at our Tyburne A méete place for such to preache in as being English borne haue Romish harts We dare not rowle our selues vp and downe in the lappe of such a mother We will not forsake that mother that hetherto hath taught vs and doth still teache vs to feare honour and loue our heauenlie Father and to frame our liues according to his will In her lap we wyll rowle our selues vp and downe as hetherto wee haue doone and craue at Gods hands that we may doo so styll and encrease in loue toward our heauenly father and towardes her Her wordes we doo beléeue and her words we doo hope we shal beléeue so long as we shall liue here for they are the words of truth and words that teache nothing but the will of our heauenly Father which is the God of truth The Sermons which you call hereticall your father mother neither may nor will leaue For they are the plentifull pappes of that louing mother in whose lap they doo rowle themselues And out of those pappes they and all others that doo rowle themselues together with them in that mothers lap doo sucke that milke that S. Peter writeth of 1. Pet. 2. which nourisheth to saluation They will not therefore leaue those dugges but will hange still vppon them Your mother of Rome hath not so swéete so pleasant nor so healthsome milke in her withered dugges Her milke is poyson to the children of God wherefore our mothers children will none of it neither will they leaue of going to those Sermons where they may sucke so much good and healthfull Milke as may suffice them You aduise your mother not to rise so earelie in the morning as she hath béene accustomed to doo to damne herselfe body and soule Goe no more you saie to those Sermōs of Crowly Barber Field and the rest So that to rise in the morning to heare the Gospell of Christ preached is in the iudgment of men of your sort to damne both bodie and soule But if your mothers dwelling were in Paris as it is in London and shee woulde rise at midnight and goe to Nigeon to heare Frier John and his fellowes singing theyr mattins before their blessed sacrament of the Altar thē she should be accounted the holyest Matrone in all Paris Yea her ghostlye Father would assure her that the place which the blessed Virgine Marie doth nowe possesse in the kingdome of heauen were meane enough yea too meane for her But especiallie if she did not vse to come emptie handed but bring with her either a bottle of the best Wine or a bagge of the best Nuttes or a good quantity of the best Figges or Reysons or Almons or any other fruites as the times of the yéere should yéelde for Minime Friers may eate all manner of fruites when they be giuen vnto them as Frier John himselfe hath written But doo ye not sée Sir Frier John howe this parte of your exhortation rebowndeth vpon your selfe Rise not at midnight to damne your selfe bodie and soule Goe not I saie to sing your Mattins before your blessed Sacrament of the Altare which neyther dooth nor can heare you Take no such daily paynes as you doo in singing your high masses which can not profite you but shall condemne you to hell fire if you repent not for all that you doo therein is Idolatrie and false worshippyng of God Yea it is the setting vp of an Idole in the place of God and the giuing of Gods honour to an Idole Returne againe therefore into Englande and accompanie your aged mother to the places where she and you together may heare the doctrine of saluation preached by Crowley Barber Fielde and other In which exercise your mother attayned to the knowledge of Christ euen in the daies of her virginity when as yet Frier John was not Samuell Debnam She is not builded vpon sande or grauell but vpon the firme Rocke Christe Iesu● and therefore it is not the vayne blaste of your Friarlike cloquence that can remooue her You wishe her to burne her bookes of Sermons and other bookes that haue heresie in them If she haue any such bookes as I thinke she hath not I would wysh her to doo as you bidde her but if her bookes be no worse then I doo thinke them to be I hope she wyll make greater account of them then you wil her to make Your masse bookes your Gradalles your Legends your Manualles your Portises your Processioners and your Hymnalles your Pontificalles and your Decretalles with the rest of your popish Vtensiles are méeter matter to be sacrificed in fire to Vulcan then are those bookes of your mothers which you will her to burn You say furder to her Be not ashamed of y e name of a Papist Goe to cōfession confesse your sins to a priest this is as much as to Be not ashamed of the name of a Traytor For euery one that being an English man or woman is a right Papist such a one as you bragge that your selfe are the same is a ranke Traytor to the Prince and state of the Realme of England You haue therefore a Traytors hart towards your Prince and Country that can wysh your mother not to be ashamed of the name of a Papist Your mother hath learned of Iesus Syracke not to be so lauish of spéeche as to open her secrete sinnes either to fréende or to foe If the Priest that you would haue to confesse her sinnes to be neither her fréend nor her foe then perhaps she may be perswaded

lust to make it it can not be of such antiquit● that you may compare with vs. We hold not of anie of them that you name Captaine Protestants We are not Caluinists we are not Zwynglians we are not Lutherans Wickliffians nor Hussians yea we holde neyther of Apollo of Peter nor of Paule but wee holde of Christ onely and are and wylbe called Christians You are and wilbe called Minimes Franciscans Dominickes Minorites Carmelites Benedictines Augustines Barnardines and I knowe not what And by a common name you wylbe called Papists Your popish Religion beganne when the Popes did first take vppon them the high dignitie of vniuersall Byshops and heades of the vniuersall Church of Christ which was about 610. yéeres after the Ascention of our Sauiour Christ not full 1000. yéeres before this day At which time Bonifacins the third of that name was ordeyned the high and vniuersall Bishop But our Religion beganne in Adam and continued in the posterity of Sethe euen tyll the incarnation of Christ and was by him made Catholicke to bée vniuersally receiued of all Nations And that Religion onelie doo we holde and professe And in this Religion were you baptized amongst vs. And this Religion did you once professe before many witnesses I would therefore wysh you to leaue your newe Religion and professe your olde Religion againe repenting vnfainedly your Apostacie and crauing forgiuenes at our heauenly fathers handes who is alwayes more ready to graunt vs pardon then we can be to craue it So shall you shewe your selfe to doo as you wysh your mother to doo that is you shall leaue the worlde and worldly deuises and cleaue vnto God alone as your mother and al vnfained Protestants doo You procéede and say thus The Fryer Beleeue me if you wyll I know as wel as you the heresies of Caluine and Luther and could peraduentnre haue defended them better then you can And therefore knowing their opinions and seeing that they were moste false and damnable contrary to all holesome doctrine and to the Scripture it selfe I was by reason of thys constrained to leaue them and to make my selfe a Papist For trust me if you wyll when ye shall yeelde your soules to God your bodies returning to the earthe you wyll then tell me another tale You would then if you could bewayle your sinnes but you shall not be able c. Crowley If we wyll beléeue you we may But for my parte I can hardly beléeue that eyther you did then or doo nowe knowe the doctrines that Luther and Caluine taught which you call heresies so well as your Father and mother both did then and doo now knowe them But be it that you did yet without peraduenture you were neuer able to defende them halfe so well as they bothe could and can For if you had béene of such habilitie to defend our Religion as your Father and mother were then and be now also vndoubtedly you coulde neuer haue béene so soone vanquished as you were by so weake aduersaries as by all likelihoode you had But it séemeth that you had no outward aduersary at all but the spirit of Arrogancie onely that lurked within you and mooued you to presume vpon your selfe and to take vppon you to iudge of the doctrine of others before you had any knowledge of doctrine your selfe But we must beleeue you if wee lust when you say that you did knowe theyr opinions did sée that they were moste false and abhominable and contrary to all holesome doctrine and to the Scripture it selfe and by reason of thys you were constrained to leaue them and to make your selfe a Papist A meruailous matter more to be mused at then to be beléeued that so young a man as Samuell Debnam was in Anno. 1583. at which time he was not Fryer John Frauncis shoulde haue in that little corps of his all holesome learning and such a knowledge of Scriptures that he was able to affyrme for truth that the opinions that Caluine and Luther helde are contrary both to all holesome doctrine and to the Scripture it selfe And yet I dare affyrme for trueth that this profounde Clarke did neuer before that time wherein hee sayth he was enforced to make himselfe a Papyst reade any one worke thorowe that either Caluine or Luther haue written Yea and as I thinke I may be bolde to affyrme that this prosounde Diuine had at that time as little knowledge of that doctrine which he calleth sounde as any young Grammarian eyther hath or can haue of the déepest misteries of Diuinitie For I knowe that before that time he neuer gaue himselfe to any graue study neyther dyd he gyue himselfe to any manner of orderly reading But his whole time in manner was spent in toying and tryfling and for y e most parte in idlenes and vayne playing And in the Scriptures hee coulde haue none other knowledge then such as he might attayne vnto either by hearing in the Churches where he neuer vsed to hearken attentiuely or els by reading in my house at the times of myne ordinary dinners and suppers vnto which exercise I did employe him as I did other young boyes that I kept in my house as I kept him And yet sée howe he taketh vppon him to condemne for most false damnable and contrary to all holesome doctrine yea and to the Scripture it selfe the opinions that those two excellent men John Caluine and Martine Luther helde and taught and haue left behinde them in wryting to the viewe of all posteritye Arroganting to himselfe the full and perfect knowledge as well of the Scriptures as of all humane Doctrines both good and bad Yea by those spéeches that he vseth he would seeme to haue read and wayed both the one and the other and to haue conferred the one with the other as one very desirous to haue founde them agreeable the one to the other But the falshode of that which hee then fauoured was so great and damnable and the contrariety to all holesome doctrine and to the Scripture it self so manifest that although ●ore agaynst his wyll he was constrayned to leaue the doctrine and professyon of a Protestant and to make himselfe a Papyst Yea by the wordes that he addeth he seemeth to be perswaded that except he had doone so he must of necessity haue perished euerlastingly For thus he sayth Trust me if you wyll when yee shall yéelde your soules to God c. You wyll tell me another tale you woulde then yf you coulde c. But you shall not be able Would not a man that readeth these wordes thinke that thys young Fryer hath as much knowledge as is possible for a man to haue And yet when he is opened and thorowly searched there is not one crumme of knowledge founde in him Undoubtedly it was but a vision in sléepe that deceiued him He dreamed that he knewe the opinions that he wryteth of and that he compared them with all holesome doctrine and with the Scripture