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A17191	A most godly and learned discourse of the woorthynesse, authoritie, and sufficiencie of the holy scripture also of the cleerenesse, and plainnesse of the same, and of the true vse thereof. Wherin is discussed this famous question: whether the canonical scriptures haue authoritie from the church, or rather the church receiue authoritie from the Scriptures. By occasion wherof are touched the dignities and duties of the church, touching traditions, with aunswere to all obiections. Translated out of Latine into English, by Iohn Tomkys: and dedicated to the right honorable Sir Richarde Pipe, knight, lorde maior of the citie of London.; De scripturae sanctae praestantia. English.	Tomkys, John.; Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575.	1579 (1579)	STC 4067; ESTC S112817	96,469	260

foorth of Augustine and Chrysostome wee haue declared What saye you to this that the same Christ the Lorde will hereby chiefly haue his disciples and so consequently and vndoubtedly his church also knowen and esteemed if they keepe his sayings faythfully and obserue them And doeth plainly witnesse that they are cast off which will not keepe his doctrine and followe it As for this power aboue the Scriptures which these felowes claime vnto themselues by their subtile Sophistrie the auncient Fathers neuer knewe nor sought as lately we haue shewed Constantine the Emperour commaunded the Fathers when as they were assembled in the Nicene Councell that they should define the controuersie of the one and selfe same substaunce of the father and the sonne foorth of the Propheticall and Apostolicall Scriptures And yet none withstoode him there saying that the Churche ought to discusse the controuersie by her owne absolute authoritie because shee was not subiect to the Scriptures but had them rather in subiection vnto her Neither did they complaine that the Emperour did anie whitte at all debase the Churche when as hee made her subiect to the rule of the Scriptures And how will these men bring the Scriptures in subiection to the authoritie iudgement and censure of the Church seeing Christ our Lorde doeth not saye that the Churche is iudge of his Doctrine but pronounceth rather that his doctrine shall be iudged of all mankinde in generall And thus maye wee vnderstand that Christe is not to bee iudged by men with what title soeuer or prerogatiue they bee adorned but all mankinde to bee iudged by him according to the Doctrine of his worde The .xix. Chapter Of the saying of Paule The Church is the piller and ground of the trueth THey say that the Church is the piller and ground of truth and that it can not erre The Apostle speaketh not of the Church of anie one time or place but of the Catholike Church of al times and places which also conteineth the Prophets and all the Apostles with all their doctrine and Christ the Lorde himselfe as the chiefe and euerlasting heade and therefore her onely head This Church is the piller and grounde woorke of the trueth of the Prophetes and Apostles doctrine VVherefore we also following Augustine doe confesse that we are mooued by the testimonie of this Churche which also before wee sayde rather to beleeue the Gospel then the Popes and their Decrees and all their Councels But the Church of anie one time or place especially after the Apostles is not the piller and grounde of the trueth but so farre foorth as shee hath the word of God with her preacheth it reteineth it conserueth it and not because she strengthneth it being weak or maketh it to be of authoritie being vnconstant much lesse because she vsurpeth vnto her self a censours rod ouer it or setteth downe any thing concerning it after her owne iudgement Therefore as she speaketh foorth of God his worde she erreth not neither can she erre but either speaking or doing without it she not only can erre but doth erre But these men whilst they cloke their tyranny with the beautifull title of the Church faine vnto vs a Churche which although it ordeine any thing beside or against God his worde yet erreth not And therefore would they that shee should rather be beleeued then the worde of god But whilst they stay them selues vpon this opinion they differ as much as may be from the olde fathers and from the consent of the Catholike Church For the fathers in their councels did alwayes confirme their decrees by the testimonyes of Scripture And although they yeelded no small honour to councels yet ●n the greatest controuersies they did not ●o much appeale vnto councels as to God ●is oracles which are the Scriptures Heereof Augustine is witnesse which would not that the authoritie of the councell And this which Hilarie wrote long agoe may much more truely be applyed to our times For the greeuous and perilous errour in many and the fall of many although it doe vnderstande it selfe yet through shame to rise presumeth authoritie to it selfe hauing this impudencie of the number that wheras it erreth it would haue it esteemed wisedome and where as it erreth with many it affirmeth it to bee the vnderderstanding of the trueth whilest lesse errour is supposed to be in the trueth The xx Chapter Of the saying of Paule Brethren stand fast and holde the ordinaunces which ye haue beene taught whether it bee by our preaching or by our Epistle I Had almoste passed ouer the place of Paule whiche the defendours of superstitions obiect vnto vs as a moste strong and an vnanswearable argument And it is thus 2. Thes 2. vers 15. Therfore brethren stand fast and holde the ordinaunces which yee haue beene taught whether it be by our preaching or by our Epistle By this place it is manifest say they that all things which are necessarily to be holden are not comprehended in the writinges of the Apostles but that those thinges also which beeing deliuered by the Apostles with liuely voice are come vnto vs by traditions are to bee receiued with like reuerence and affection of godlines But when as they can not prooue that those traditions which they defende bee Paules they are woorthy to be laughed at and very foolish whilst they will holde vp their stinking piller of their superstitions by the testimonie of the Apostles And when Paule wrote this Epistle the Canon of the Scripture of the newe Testament was not yet made Which when it was once made by the authoritie of the holy Goost as we haue lately taught after the making thereof we make men the authours of thinges to bee beleeued not without the great reproche of the same spirit Wherfore in this matter we must consider with great heede that which Paule wrote aboute the ende of his life concerning the sufficiencie of the Scriptures when as hee sayth All Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God is profitable to doctrine to reproue to correction to instruction which is in righteousnesse that the man of God may be perfect instructed to all good woorkes For if the Scripture make the man of God instructed perfecte and throughlye furnished to euerye good work than doth it not leaue him to be instructed to be made perfect and to bee thorowly furnished by traditions in any good worke Wherefore so ofte as they bring in a worke which they contend to be good or any thing necessary to be beleeued which can not be proued foorth of the holy Scriptures I had rather say that that which they bring in is not good or profitable then to pronounce otherwise of the moste excellent authoritie of the Scripture than the Apostle hath appointed concerning the same What saye you to this moreouer that the doctrine which the Apostles taught whether it were by preaching or by Epistle was not contrary not

obscurenesse of the Scripture and rolling in all their pointes of Rethoricke do goe about to proue the necessitie authoritie perfection certaintie plainnesse of vnwritten Traditions that is to say That we should fetch the rule of faith not from the worde of God but from the Traditions of the Church and that there is so much force in the Scripture as is granted therevnto by the consentes voyces of the Church The second Chapter The deceitfulnes of them is reproued which do diminish the authoritie of the Scripture wherevpon the authoritie of the Church doth depend I Do not denie that they which make these reasons are prompt wittie ●●arned and eloquent woulde to God ●●ey were all so vpright and gentle min●●d that they would put to their furthe●●nce rather to buyld vp the kingdome 〈◊〉 Christ then to defend the kingdome of ●●e Pope and that they woulde rather ●llowe the sincere doctrine of the Gos●ell then mainteine corruptions and ab●ses But whilest they are willing to gratifie these antichristian rulers they ●un on so farre through the heate of their contention that through their wicked cursed and prophane Rhetorike they ●laspheme and ●pise the holy Ghost For whē they do so beset and besiege the Scripture that they call it a Labyrinth in the which we may go out of the right way A nose of waxe which is apt to be bowed vnto either side A matter of controuersies A nourse garden of discentions obscure doubtfull intricate What is this if it be not a reproch agaynst the holy Ghost the authour thereof But the marke whereat they shoote is this that whereas they may bee perceiued oftentymes to haue decreed and ordeined farre otherwise in the Sacraments and doctrines then holy scripture can beare they are willing to mainteine that it was lawfull for them so to doe because the Church which maketh the holy scriptures to be of authoritie and credite can change therein whatsoeuer shall seeme good vnto her Therefore least the maiestie of the Scripture should let their lust they are not afrayde to diminish the authoritie thereof wherein they do seeme to imitate the craftinesse and naughtinesse of the auncient heretikes who being willing to eschew least they being pressed with the authoritie of the Scriptures shoulde bee ouercome presumed boldely to denie certaine bookes of the Bible to be canonicall reiecting them and with great disdaine disallowing them For when as they are reproued by the Scriptures sayth Irenaeus they do accuse the Scriptures as though they were not well handled neither be of authoritie and because they be diuersly spoken because the truth can not be found forth in them by those which know not the tradition Carpocrates Seuerus Cerdo Manes reiected as August witnesseth the bookes of the law although Tertullian report of Cerdo as also doth Irenaeus of Marcio that they reiected al the Euangelists but Luke Philaster reporteth that Cerinthus allowed Mathew onely We reade in Eusebius that the Seuerians disalowed Paul his Epistles and the Acts of the Apostles For they did suppose it to be an aduantage for the obteyning of victorie if they did condition that they whose dartes they saw were to be feared might bee throwne foorth of the campe of the Church before they should come to the battell Euen so also do these thinke that they shall triumph if they may most vnworthely slander the Scripture of vncerteintie imperfectiō ambiguitie obscuritie And euen as those old heretikes did cōtentiously affirme that the truth could not be founde by them which knewe not the tradition deliuered not by writing but by liuely voice in like maner do these also mainteine that the Apostles haue not comprehended in their writings all things which wee ought to beleeue and most obstinately contend that all things apperteyning to godlinesse are not conteyned in the Scripture that thou maist vnderstand that both the one and the other are inforced with the selfe same spirite of errour Wherefore we must withstand them by all meanes possible For it is a most hurtfull and perillous errour to holde that the credite of Scripture shoulde hang on the determinatiō of the Church which being granted Christ shall not be Christ nor the Gospel the Gospel neither shal we take the Apostles for the Apostles nor the writings of the Apostles for the Apostles writings but so farre forth as they be allowed in their Councels by their owne consents and iudgements Here truly must the seruāts needs be greater then the Lorde that the Lord may not be beleeued but onely so farre forth as his seruants will that he shall be belieued as though forsooth God his eternall and inuiolable truth shoulde be grounded and staied vpon the iudgement of men Neither is it lawfull nor sure to dallie in diuinitie as shall please mens deuises For the naturall man perceiueth not the things of the spirite of God and all the thoughts sayings deedes of men doe more resemble lying then truth for God onely is true Neither ●●e the argumentes strong and sounde ●hich these patrones of superstitions take for the defence of their opinion ●ut rather feeble and weake as in discussing and examining them shall appeare although the simple being delu●ed with the onely shew of truth be hol●en still in errours and superstitions and ●lienated from the truth But let not vs ●uffer our selues to bee brought to this passe that we graunt that the holy scripture hath receiued credite and authoritie from the Church seeing that the matter ●s farre otherwise For what authoritie or estimation soeuer the Church hath it ●ommeth wholy from the worde of God whereof also the Church hath the beginning Euen as Peter saith Ye are borne ●new not of corruptible seede but of ●ncorruptible by the worde of God which liueth and lasteth for euer And ●aul saith In Christ Iesus I haue begot●en you through the Gospel Therfore as is the daughter to the mother so is the Church to the Scripture And since we do all confesse that the Church is susteined by the foundation of the Prophets Apostles truly if the doctrine of the Prophets and the Apostles be the stay of the Church it must necessarily follow that the authoritie of the doctrine doeth excell the authoritie of the Church Neither is there anie cause that they shoulde cauill that the Church was 2449. yeres before Moses before the Scripture because they make Moses his bookes most ancient which in deede I do confesse in respect of those bookes which now are extant But how know they whether that ancient Church which was before Moses had written his Pentatenche had anie bookes of holy Scripture or none Moses doth cite the booke of the warres of the lord And in Iosua is the booke of the Iust cited And it may be that Noah Abraham Isaac Iacob wrote those things which did pertein to their times as Moses did afterward gather them togither and by

thinges which hee shewed and spake it may not be said that he himselfe did not write because his mēber● ●…ote that which they knew the head ●…structing them For whatsoeuer hee ●…ould that we shoulde read touching ●…s deedes and wordes that did hee ●●mmaūd them to write as his owne ●…ndes Whosoeuer shall vnderstande ●…is fellowship of vnitie and ministerie ●f members agreeing in diuerse offi●…s vnder one head he wil none otherwise take that which he shall reade in ●he Gospel by the report of the disci●les of Christ then if he had beholden ●he verie hand of the Lorde which he ●are in his own bodie writing it Loe what can be more euident then this wit●esse of this most holie man Christ wrote in his Disciples inasmuch as ●hey wrote that which hee shewed and ●pake yea and whatsoeuer he would that we should reade of his deedes wordes ●hat did he commaund them to write as ●hough they had beene his owne hands ●o that we ought none otherwise to take ●he report of the Euangelists then if we had beholden the verie hand of the Lord writing it Are not these most vaine men ashamed to scatter cloudes in so cleare weather Marcus Scaurus when he was accused of treason openly before the people of Rome by one Varius sayde thus Varius Sucronensis sayeth that Marcus Aemelius Scaurus hath committed treason agaynst the common wealth Marcus Aemilius Scaurus denieth it whether will you beleeue At this worde the people forthwith stopped the accion Howe much more iustly may I in this controuersie appeale to indifferent iudges and say Irenaeus and Augustine being most ancient and holy fathers yea and the consent of all the Catholike Church d ee affirme that the Apostles and Euangelists haue comprehended in writing the doctrine of Christ by the commaundement and will of the lord The Herinates the Pighic● the Peresies the Lindanes the Andradies denie it I pray you whether will you beleeue Let them therefore lea●● 〈◊〉 to barke against so cleare truth let them reasse to diminish the holy authoritie of Scripture yea rather let them repe●t them of their errour and madnesse The fifth Chapter ●hat all things which concerne faith godlinesse and saluation are fully and sufficiently conteined in Scripture NOw our aduersaries are cast forth of their fortresse by the force of Truth we shal haue more liberty to cope with them in the open field It remaineth ●herefore that wee handle now more at ●arge that which lately we touched in ●ewe woordes that is to say that wee proue that all thinges which concerne ●ayth and godlinesse are fully and absolutely conteyned in the Scripture And God hath giuen so perfect a law that he hath straghtly forbid anie thing to be added therevnto And howe seuerely the Lord hath reuenged this presumption if any thing haue beene added in the rites much more in the doctrine so many most graue sermons of the Prophetes which are the interpreters of the lawe made touching these matters all the holie Histories yea and Christ himselfe doe most euidently witnesse There must be the same iudgement touching the Gospel forsomuch as it is much more excellent then the Lawe Except we should peraduenture thinke that God after hee had sent his Sonne into the worlde had lesse care for his Church or shoulde suppose that the Apostles vsed lesse diligence in that poynt then did the Prophetes Tertullian exclaimeth saying Happie is the Church for whome the Apostles haue powred foorth all the doctrine of GOD euen with their bloud Paule witnesseth that he hath expounded to the Ephesians all the counsell of God touching euerlasting saluation without anie shifting dissimulation Can it bee proued that Paul taught anie thing which he did not write Can it bee denied that the full doctrine of the Gospell is plainely comprehended in his Epistles But least I shoulde bee long I will content my selfe to alledge one but yet a verie plaine sentence of Paule For that being thorowly handled will plainely shewe the perfection and sufficiencie of the Scripture Hee ●●refore aboute the ende of his life ●●en as the bookes of the newe Testa●●nt were written and set foorth spea●●th thus to Timothie the Bishoppe ●t continue thou in the thinges ●hich thou hast learned which also ●ere committed vnto thee knowing ●f whome thou hast learned them and that from an infante thou hast ●nowne the Scriptures which are a●le to make thee wise vnto saluation ●hrough fayth which is in Christ Ie●●s All Scripture is giuen by in●piration of GOD and is profita●le to doctrine to reproue to correc●ion to instruction which is in righ●eousnesse that the man of God may ●e perfect throughly instructed vnto ●ll good woorkes Herevnto agreeth ●he place Rom. 15. Whatsoeuer things haue beene written afore time were written for our learning that we tho●ough pacience and comfort of the Scriptures might haue hope Which two places being weyed it will plain●y appeare that the Scripture is in ●ll poyntes most perfect For in them doeth the Apostle comprehende all the vse of holye Scriptures and deuideth it into fiue pointes 1. Doctrine 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifieth the documentes of our Religion as when we intreate of God of Gods prouidence of Predestination of the Iustification and glorification of men of the Lawe of sinne of the Gospel of Fayth of charitie of hope of Christes incarnation of his death and resurrection of the resurrection of all the dead and of such like matters 2. Reprofe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is whereby we reproue and conuince them which do not reason rightly and which commit faultes in gathering their arguments Wherevpon Aristotle instituteth that part of Logike wherein he sheweth the way to discouer the guiles and deceytes of Sophistes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Elenghkes that is to say of Reprofes It is therefore Reproofe whereby the errours of Heretikes of Philosophers or of anie other whiche iudge euill of Religion are vanquished and confuted 3. Instruction 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 conteineth the teaching of godly life 〈◊〉 the informing of manners as when ●n of all degrees are put in minde of ●ir duetie that euerie man maye haue ● care for that whiche belongeth vnto ●m as when wee teache what is seeme● for the ministers of the Church what ●r husbandes what for wiues what ●r children what for maisters what for ●●ruantes what for riche men what for ●oore men It is also instruction when ●xhortations are made to moue men to ●raye to doe almes deedes to fast to o●ey the Magistrate to repent and to ●mbrace all kinde of vertues For those ●hinges which perteine to this place are ●erie large For vnder instructions is ●omprehended all doctrine of vertues ●nd vices is comprehended whatso●uer concerneth the gouernement of a man him selfe of his house of a state ●is comprehended whatsoeuer maye bee referred to the Churche to the common wealth to all kindes of life Admonition 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉

certaine boundes and that it is so muche preferred before all the later writinges of Byshoppes that there may neyther doubte be made nor disputation raysed touching it whether anie thing whiche is well knowen to bee written in it be true or righte And that the writinges of Byshoppes which eyther haue beene written after the confirmation of the the Canon or which shall bee written may be lawfully reprooued both by the wyser speach of one peraduenture more skilfull in the Scripture and by the grauer authoritie of other Byshoppes and by the wisedome of the learned and by Councels if anie thing in the sayde writinges doe by chaunce varie from the trueth And that the Councels themselues which are holden by particuler countries or prouinces doe geue place without all doubte to the more generall Councels which are assembled forth of the vniuersal Christian worlde And that the latter generall Councels are oftētimes made better by the further when as by some experimenr of matters that which was shutte vppe is opened and that which lay hidde is made knowen without anie shewe of wicked pride without anie arrogancie of puffed vp flesh without any contention of spitefull enuie with holie humilitie with Catholike peace and with Christian Charitie Hierome vppon the Epistle to the Galathians sayeth It is the doctrine of the holie Ghoste which is set foorth in the Canonicall Scriptures agaynst the which if Councels shall determine any thing I esteeme it wickednesse Again August writing to Hierom hath these wordes For I confesse vnto your charitie that I haue learned to yeeld this feare honor to those bookes of the Scripture onely which are nowe called Canonicall that I beleeue most firmely that none of the authours of them haue committed any fault in writing them And if I finde any thing in any of those bookes which may seeme contrarie to the truth I make none other doubt but this that either there was a fault escaped in writing the booke or that the interpreter did not attaine to that which was spoken or that I doe not vnderstande it But I reade others so that although they doe excell in holinesse and learning I doe not therefore thinke it true because they so thought but because they were able to perswade me either by those Canonicall authours or by probable reason that it differeth not from the truth Neither doe I suppose my brother that thou dost think any otherwise This I say that I doe not take it that thou wouldest thy bookes should be altogether so read as the writings of the Prophets or of the Apostles touching whose writings to doubt whether they want al errour it is a great haynous offence This be farre from godly humilitie c. In like manner in the proeme to his third booke de Trinitate he saith As I wil not haue my reader addict to me so will I not be his correctour Let not him loue me more then the Catholike faith and let him not loue himselfe more then the Catholike trueth As I say to him Be not addicted to my writinges as to the Canonicall Scriptures But when thou shalt finde in the Scriptures euen that which thou didst not beleeue beleeue it without stackering And when thou shalt find in my bookes which thou diddest not esteeme certaine except thou vnderstand it to be certaine doe not firmely hold it So say I to him also Correct not my bookes by thine opinion or contention but by the holy Scripture or by firme reason If thou shalt finde any trueth in them in that it is so it is not mine but in that it is vnderstanded and beloued let it be both thine and mine But if thou shalt proue any falshood in them in that there was an errour committed it shal be mine but in that it is nowe auoyded let it neither bee mine nor thine Hee sayeth also to Fortunatianus For wee ought not to make such accoumptes of the disputations of anie although they be Catholike and laudable men as of the Canonicall Scriptures ▪ as though it were not lawfull for vs sauing the honourable reuerence which is due to suche men to improoue and refuse some thing in their bookes if by chance we shall finde that they thought otherwise thē the truth is being by God his helpe vnderstanded either of other or of vs Suche am I in other mens woorkes suche woulde I that the vnderstanders of my woorkes shoulde be in mine And againe to Paulina in the sixeteenth Chapter he saith Neither doest thou so beleeue me as thou doest Ambrose ▪ touching whose bookes I haue giuen those so great testimonies Or if thou thinke that thou shouldest beleeue vs both two alike what wilt thou compare vs in any wise to the Gospel or wilt thou matche our writinges with the Canonicall Scriptures Truely if thou be a wise discerner thou seest vs farre of frō that authoritie me much more But although thou mayest be●eeue eyther of vs yet mayst thou not compare either of vs to that excellēcy Item against Cresconius in the seconde booke and xxxi Chapter he saith For we doe Cyprian no iniurie when we put differēce betwene his writings whatsoeuer they be the canonicall authoritie of holy scriptures Neither was the Ecclesiastical Canon without cause sette downe with so wholesome watchefulnesse whervnto the certaine bookes of the Prophets of the Apostles do pertaine which we may not presume to iudge at all and according to the which we may freely iudge of al other writings either of the faithful or of the vnfaithfull In like maner to Vincentius the Donatist in his xlviii Epistle hath these woordes Shew not thy selfe willing to collect pillers forth of the writings of the Apostles against the testimonies of god First because this kind of writings are distinguished from the authoritie of the Canon For they are not so read as though testimonie might so be taken foorth of them that it may not be lawfull to thinke otherwise if perhaps they sauour otherwise Sixe hundred suche testimonies are to be found euerie where in Augustine which teach that the Canonicall scripture is the rule wherby all the writinges and decrees of all men are to be tried Wherfore omitting him let vs heare also the sentēces of the rest of the fathers agreeing all in one Basill in moralibus summa 72. cap. 1. pronounceth that hearers learned in the Scriptures ought to trie those things which are vttered by the teachers and to receiue those things which agree with the Scriptures but to refuse whatsoeuer doth not agree thervnto And hee applieth to that rule the saying of Paul Gal. 1.8 Though an Angel from heauen preache anie other Gospel vnto you than that which we haue preached vnto you let him bee accursed Epiphanius haeresi 65. saith We can shewe the inuention of euery question not by reasons of our owne but by the consequence of the Scriptures Cyrill de recta fide ad reginas saith It

and was Iesus Christ and that afterwarde he preached the newe lawe and the new promise of the kingdome of heauen wrought miracles was fastened to the crosse rose againe the thirde day that he beyng taken vp to heauen sitteth at the right hande of the Father that he hath sent the power of the holie Ghost in his steede to gouerne the beleeuers that he shall come in brightnes to take the Saintes into the fruition of euerlasting life and of the heauenly promises and to iudge the prophane with perpetuall fire the resurrection of both partes beyng wrought with the restoring of the fleshe This rule ordained by Christ as it shall be proued hath no questions among vs but what heresies bring in and which make heretikes Thus farre Tertullian who thorowly agreeth with Irenaeus in describing the tradition of the Apostles And the testimonies of these most auncient writers doe shewe from whence the briefe summe of our beleefe commeth which commonly they call the Apostles Creede whiche certainely is the most auncient tradition which being receiued from Apostolike men the Churche keepeth still And Tertullian addeth in the same booke of prescriptions The Church hath knowen one GOD the creatour of all thinges and Christ Iesus of the Virgin Marie the Sonne of God the Creatour and the resurrection of the fleshe She intermedleth the lawe and the Prophetes with the writings of the Euangelists and the Apostles frō thence doth shee drinke the same faith she signeth with water clotheth with the holy Ghost feedeth with the Euchariste exhorteth with martyrdome and so doeth she receiue none against this institution By the which woordes it is cleare that the primitiue Churche acknowledged no traditions which were not founded in the Scripture Although I haue handled these things at large yet because the Papistes oftentimes hold foorth as Aiax his shielde the place of Paule 2. Thes 2.15 against the Scripture for their traditions whereas he sayeth Stande fast and holde the ordinaunces which ye haue bene taught whether it were by our preaching or by our Epistle can I not omitte but must euidently shewe foorth of the same Irenaeus that Paule preached to the Gentiles with liuely voyce the same and none other doctrine which hee taught them also by his Epistles For Irenaeus doeth most plainely describe Paule his tradition in two places in the fifth Chapter of the thirde booke and also in the fourtie one Chapter of the fourth booke These are the chiefe pointes of his description that the Gods of the Gentiles are not onely Gods but the Idols of Deuils And that there is one true God which is ouer all and aboue euery name that is named and that hee onely is to be woorshipped That they woulde therefore departe from the superstition of idols leaue their vaine wood and stones which they supposed to bee Gods and woulde woorshippe one true God the maker of heauen and earth and the framer of euery thing that is made Which ordayned made all mankinde and by his framing of them nourished increased them stedfastly gaue them beyng And that his word is his Sonne by whom hee made all thinges And that he in the last times although hee were naturally the inuisible worde was made visible and palpable man among men humbled him selfe to death euē to the death of the crosse refourmed mankinde destroyed and ouercame man his enemie and gaue vnto man whom he made victorie against his aduersarie that they which beleeue in him shall bee incorruptible and impassible That they shoulde therefore sette before themselues this lawe as the rule of life Not to committe adulterie not to steale not to deceiue and that al thinges which are done to the hurt of our neighboures are euill and hated of god The trueth sheweth that these deedes are euill and hurtfull and vnprofitable and damnable to them that doe them That they shoulde therefore liue blamelesse and looke for the Sonne of God Iesus Christ which redeemed vs from Apostacie and going astray by his blood to this ende that we might be also a sanctified people to ascende to heauen in the vertue of the Father which shall iudge all men and shal giue vnto them which haue kept his commaundements those good thinges which are from god Beholde Paule his tradition deliuered to the posteritie by Irenaeus a most auncient writer of the Churche And doeth he not euerie where teach with al diligence the very self same things in his Epistles So that the doctrine is all one which hee taught with liuely voice which he cōmitted to writing Yea the tradition described by Irenaeus may seeme to be the brief summe of those things which he wrote So that hee wrote most truely that those thinges which the Apostles taught were all 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 agreeable to the Scriptures Therefore all traditions which are giuen foorth as the Apostles haue beene are and ought to be such And for this cause they are alwaies to be examined whether they haue this Irenaeus his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 agreemēt with the Canonicall Scriptures The .xxiii Chapter Of the subtiltie and deceitfulnesse of Sophisters which vse guilefully the woorde Tradition which is diuersly taken WE haue hitherto shewed that it is all one doctrine which the Apostles published with liuely voyce and which the Canonicall Scripture setteth foorth Wee haue also declared howe vaynely the Papistes reason that many thinges which are necessarie for the instruction of faith and ordering of manners although they can be prooued by no testimonie of Scripture are neuerthelesse to be receiued and beleeued forth of the naked tradition Wherefore this is alwaies to be holden which we cited lately foorth of Augustine That faith is learned foorth of the Scriptures There is often times mention made of traditions by the auncient Writers but not to this end that our fayth shoulde runne out of the Scriptures wherein they alwaies inclosed it And where as this woord Tradition is diuersly vsed among the olde writers and all Traditions are not of one kinde it is a detestable sophistrie by the mixture of them all to deceiue Therefore it is to be considered what testimonies of olde writers doe pertaine vnto what kinde of Traditions and what is to be thought of euerie one of them least all without difference bee applied to the defense of corruptions abuses and superstitions Let vs therefore distinguish Traditions into certaine kindes First the fathers by this word Tradition oftentimes vnderstand the Canonicall Scripture of the newe Testament as when Cyprian to Pompeius saith From whence is this Tradition Whether descending from the authoritie of the Lorde and of the Euangelistes or comming from the commaundementes and Epistles of the Apostles For that those thinges ought to be doone which are written GOD witnesseth and proposeth to Iosuah saying Let not the booke of this Lawe departe out of thy mouth that thou maiste obserue and doe according to all that is written