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A11516 The historie of the Councel of Trent Conteining eight bookes. In which (besides the ordinarie actes of the Councell) are declared many notable occurrences, which happened in Christendome, during the space of fourtie yeeres and more. And, particularly, the practises of the Court of Rome, to hinder the reformation of their errors, and to maintaine their greatnesse. Written in Italian by Pietro Soaue Polano, and faithfully translated into English by Nathanael Brent.; Historia del Concilio tridentino. English Sarpi, Paolo, 1552-1623.; Brent, Nathaniel, Sir, 1573?-1652. 1629 (1629) STC 21762; ESTC S116697 1,096,909 905

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