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sect._n 29._o to_o instruct_v and_o convince_v gainsayer_n 24.25_o the_o servant_n of_o the_o lord_n must_v not_o strive_v but_o be_v gentle_a unto_o all_o man_n apt_a to_o teach_v in_o meekness_n instruct_v those_o that_o oppose_v themselves_o if_o god_n peradventure_o will_v give_v they_o repentance_n to_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o the_o truth_n 2_o tim._n 2_o 24.25_o and_o man_n contrary-minded_n to_o the_o truth_n to_o perform_v these_o office_n unto_o they_o with_o meekness_n and_o therefore_o not_o to_o threaten_v they_o with_o deliver_v they_o over_o to_o the_o secular_a power_n or_o to_o incite_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n against_o they_o and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o the_o minister_n to_o encourage_v or_o put_v on_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o use_v any_o external_a violence_n or_o compulsion_n against_o such_o certain_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a much_o less_o any_o point_n of_o duty_n for_o he_o to_o proceed_v in_o any_o such_o way_n against_o they_o and_o 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truth_n chap._n 1._o concern_v the_o directive_n pour_v in_o mâ—tters_n ecclesiastical_a and_o which_o concern_v religion_n whether_o how_o or_o in_o what_o sense_n it_o may_v be_v conceive_v to_o reside_v in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n synod_n or_o other_o man_n sect._n 1_o a._n s._n pag._n 5._o have_v this_o left-handed_a expression_n concern_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n that_o he_o arrogate_v not_o to_o himself_o any_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n the_o reader_n must_v do_v hâ—m_o a_o courtesy_n in_o find_v he_o out_o a_o very_a soft_a sense_n for_o the_o word_n arrogate_v otherwise_o he_o will_v be_v find_v in_o a_o misprision_n of_o a_o foul_a insinuation_n against_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o viz._n that_o he_o arrogate_v i._n in_o the_o ordinary_a construction_n of_o the_o word_n proud_o assume_v to_o himself_o when_o he_o claim_v or_o exercise_v that_o executive_a coercive_a &_o external_a power_n in_o and_z about_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o 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which_o according_a to_o his_o own_o distribution_n be_v a_o executive_a coercitive_a &_o external_a power_n in_o &_o will_v matter_n of_o religion_n but_o i_o marvel_v that_o the_o man_n shall_v here_o so_o clean_o wipe_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o a_o di_fw-mi ective_a power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n when_o as_o but_o a_o few_o page_n before_o in_o his_o 8._o observe_v he_o have_v plead_v wisdom_n enough_o in_o the_o parliament_n to_o know_v what_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o church_n of_o god_n if_o the_o parliament_n be_v wise_a enough_o to_o know_v what_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o church_n i_o know_v no_o reason_n why_o that_o directive_n power_n here_o speak_v of_o shall_v be_v derogate_a or_o take_v from_o they_o especial_o by_o those_o who_o it_o be_v much_o to_o be_v fear_v be_v much_o straighten_a in_o respect_n of_o a_o spirit_n of_o that_o wisdom_n themselves_o sure_o a._n s._n in_o say_v that_o the_o parliament_n be_v wise_a enough_o to_o know_v what_o be_v convenient_a for_o the_o church_n have_v sift_v the_o synod_n or_o assembly_n with_o a_o sieve_n of_o vanity_n and_o break_v the_o head_n of_o the_o necessity_n thereof_o &_o so_o be_v guilty_a of_o a_o far_o high_a misdemeanour_n against_o it_o than_o the_o apologist_n be_v in_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v do_v or_o say_v yea_o or_o then_o himself_o lay_v to_o their_o charge_n which_o yet_o be_v his_o rod_n of_o scorpion_n to_o scourge_v they_o from_o place_n to_o place_n turpe_fw-la est_fw-la doctori_fw-la cum_fw-la culpa_fw-la redarguit_fw-la ipsum_fw-la sect._n 2._o but_o let_v we_o consider_v a_o little_a more_o narrow_o whether_o a._n s._n have_v quite_v himself_o like_o a_o doctor_n of_o the_o chair_n in_o strip_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n of_o a_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o put_v on_o he_o in_o stead_n thereof_o the_o purple_a robe_n of_o a_o executive_a coercitive_a and_o external_a power_n only_o pag._n 6._o 1._o by_o such_o a_o umpirage_n and_o decision_n as_o this_o between_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n and_o himself_o with_o his_o fellow_n presbyter_n have_v he_o not_o make_v the_o one_o judex_n and_o the_o other_o carnifex_fw-la the_o one_o must_v give_v the_o sentence_n the_o other_o must_v do_v the_o execution_n the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v much_o behold_v to_o the_o presbyter_n for_o give_v of_o he_o a_o consecrate_a sword_n to_o fight_v the_o presbyterian_a battle_n and_o for_o persuade_v he_o to_o pull_v out_o his_o own_o eye_n upon_o this_o presumption_n that_o he_o shall_v see_v better_o with_o he_o i_o perceive_v presbytery_n be_v policy_n in_o the_o high_a and_o seek_v to_o put_v the_o magistrate_n between_o itself_o and_o the_o envy_n and_o discontent_n of_o the_o people_n and_o yet_o nevertheless_o hope_n to_o gain_v from_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o magistrate_n such_o a_o interpretation_n of_o this_o practice_n as_o thereby_o to_o be_v esteem_v the_o best_a and_o faithful_a friend_n it_o have_v in_o all_o the_o world_n this_o cunning_a of_o the_o spirit_n we_o now_o speak_v of_o put_v i_o in_o mind_n of_o the_o ape_n that_o take_v the_o spaniel_n foot_n to_o pull_v the_o chess-nut_n out_o of_o the_o fire_n sure_o the_o frame_n and_o constitution_n of_o presbytery_n be_v exact_o calculate_v for_o the_o meridian_n of_o this_o present_a world_n but_o whether_o it_o will_v indifferent_o serve_v for_o that_o which_o be_v to_o come_v totus_fw-la dubito_fw-la i_o be_o in_o doubt_n all_o over_o and_o indeed_o a._n s._n himself_o be_v somewhat_o ingenuous_a in_o acknowledge_v that_o this_o government_n have_v little_a or_o no_o relation_n unto_o or_o compliance_n with_o the_o world_n which_o be_v to_o come_v profess_v p._n 13._o the_o external_a peace_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v the_o adequate_a end_n thereof_o 2._o i_o will_v glad_o be_v inform_v whether_o a._n s._n think_v it_o reasonable_a 3_o sect._n 3_o meet_v or_o christian_a that_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n shall_v 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