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A33523 A just vindication of the covenant and church-estate of children of church-members as also of their right unto bastisme : wherein such things as have been brought by divers to the contrary, especially by Ioh. Spilsbury, A.R. Ch. Blackwood, and H. Den are revised and answered : hereunto is annexed a refutation of a certain pamphlet styled The plain and wel-grounded treatise touching baptism / by Thomas Cobbet. Cobbet, Thomas, 1608-1685. 1648 (1648) Wing C4778; ESTC R25309 266,318 321

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death_n and_o curse_n if_o this_o covenant_n in_o which_o they_o be_v with_o true_a believer_n be_v a_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o be_v evident_a then_o be_v hypocrite_n external_o in_o it_o for_o internal_o and_o efficacious_o they_o be_v not_o and_o whence_o else_o be_v they_o charge_v with_o break_v the_o everlasting_a covenant_n cat●exochen_n if_o they_o be_v never_o in_o that_o bond_n and_o if_o in_o it_o it_o be_v but_o external_o else_o have_v they_o never_o so_o fatal_o break_v this_o covenant_n which_o be_v thus_o plain_o describe_v by_o the_o old_a periphrasis_n of_o abraham_n covenant_n gen._n 17._o 7._o 13._o and_o whence_o also_o be_v some_o charge_v with_o not_o believe_v the_o faith_n or_o engage_v truth_n the_o covenant_n of_o god_n rom._n 7._o 3._o if_o it_o be_v not_o plight_v with_o
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their_o own_o witness_n name_n they_o be_v in_o such_o a_o hurry_n they_o bring_v in_o proof_n that_o the_o teacher_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a father_n right_o do_v so_o and_o so_o make_v the_o father_n and_o those_o teacher_n distinct_a as_o person_n of_o who_o the_o testimony_n be_v bring_v and_o as_o witness_n by_o who_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o proof_n the_o ancient_a father_n themselves_o be_v the_o witness_n of_o what_o be_v do_v by_o those_o teacher_n after_o they_o as_o hilary_n tertullian_n arnobius_n ambrose_n etc._n etc._n these_o may_v say_v what_o be_v in_o their_o time_n but_o can_v say_v what_o teacher_n after_o they_o will_v do_v or_o practice_v unless_o the_o author_n can_v by_o a_o spell_n play_v the_o witch_n of_o endor_n trick_n to_o fetch_v up_o old_a samuel_n in_o his_o likeness_n to_o speak_v after_o he_o be_v dead_a sect_n i._o but_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o any_o of_o they_o say_v if_o we_o have_v not_o hear_v it_o before_o hilary_n hilary_n as_o for_o 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be_v man_n on_o who_o the_o free_a gift_n come_v and_o yet_o here_o homo_fw-la demissus_fw-la in_o aquam_fw-la in_o tertullian_n must_v be_v only_o a_o grow_a man_n not_o infant_n as_o if_o infant_n now_o be_v not_o homo_fw-la but_o this_o answer_n must_v be_v better_o ground_v or_o else_o i_o shall_v keep_v my_o opinion_n that_o as_o a_o infant_n be_v homo_fw-la so_o tertullia_n testimony_n there_o speak_v indefinite_o of_o any_o baptize_v person_n man_n or_o woman_n infant_n youth_n or_o ripe_a person_n etc._n etc._n he_o do_v bear_v implicit_a testimony_n in_o that_o very_a place_n to_o paedobaptism_n as_o in_o his_o time_n but_o to_o return_v to_o ambrose_n i_o say_v that_o in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n such_o confession_n and_o question_n be_v and_o infant_n be_v baptize_v too_o that_o corruption_n be_v then_o in_o use_n of_o add_v to_o infant_n baptism_n interrogation_n to_o they_o that_o bring_v they_o to_o baptism_n which_o answer_v in_o their_o name_n and_o make_v confession_n in_o their_o stead_n for_o other_o be_v baptize_v in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n and_o before_o than_o such_o as_o can_v personal_o answer_v or_o make_v confession_n yea_o and_o that_o it_o be_v ambrose_n his_o judgement_n that_o it_o be_v the_o mind_n of_o god_n that_o other_o shall_v be_v baptize_v then_o can_v make_v such_o confession_n witness_v that_o among_o other_o place_n of_o ambrose_n which_o he_o have_v in_o his_o 5_o tom._n in_o his_o homily_n upon_o luke_n jordan_n be_v turn_v back_o signify_v the_o future_a mystery_n of_o salvation_n in_o baptism_n by_o which_o little_a one_o in_o their_o infancy_n be_v cleanse_v from_o the_o wickedness_n of_o their_o nature_n namely_o in_o a_o sacramental_a way_n sect_n iii_o but_o it_o will_v be_v here_o object_v that_o that_o custom_n of_o susceptor_n in_o infant_n baptism_n and_o the_o interrogation_n and_o question_n that_o be_v put_v to_o they_o or_o other_o in_o their_o stead_n do_v show_v that_o of_o old_a none_o but_o grow_v 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