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119._o but_o beside_o that_o this_o difference_n may_v be_v note_v say_v mr._n fitzherbert_n 6._o fitzherbert_n 1_o nu._n 6._o betwixt_o the_o example_n which_o widdrington_n give_v and_o this_o clause_n of_o the_o oath_n that_o in_o the_o example_n to_o wit_n i_o love_v he_o as_o my_o brother_n and_o i_o hate_v he_o as_o the_o devil_n and_o such_o like_a the_o word_n as_o have_v relation_n to_o two_o diverse_a subject_n and_o therefore_o must_v needeâ—_n be_v understand_v comparative_o whereas_o in_o the_o clause_n of_o the_o oath_n there_o be_v speech_n only_o of_o one_o subject_n to_o wit_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o heretical_a be_v a_o adiective_n be_v affirm_v also_o of_o the_o say_a doctrine_n as_o praedicatum_fw-la de_fw-la subjecto_fw-la and_o therefore_o the_o word_n as_o be_v refer_v to_o heretical_a which_o be_v affirm_v of_o the_o doctrine_n only_o can_v be_v understand_v comparative_o as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o example_n where_o there_o be_v two_o different_a subject_n but_o must_v needs_o denote_v a_o reality_n of_o heresy_n in_o the_o doctrine_n 120._o but_o first_o it_o be_v untrue_a that_o in_o the_o example_n which_o i_o bring_v the_o aduerbe_n as_o must_v of_o necessity_n have_v relation_n to_o two_o diverse_a subject_n or_o person_n for_o it_o may_v be_v refer_v to_o one_o and_o the_o same_o subject_a or_o person_n as_o if_o one_o shall_v be_v blame_v for_o not_o love_v his_o brother_n or_o for_o not_o hate_v the_o devil_n he_o may_v very_o well_o answer_v and_o say_v in_o truth_n i_o love_v he_o as_o my_o brother_n or_o i_o hate_v he_o as_o the_o devil_n where_o the_o aduerbe_n as_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o matter_n do_v signify_v a_o reality_n of_o brotherhood_n and_o a_o true_a devil_n and_o not_o only_o a_o similitude_n or_o a_o equality_n by_o the_o way_n of_o comparison_n and_o therefore_o to_o know_v when_o the_o aduerbe_n as_o do_v denote_v a_o reality_n and_o not_o a_o similitude_n we_o must_v regard_v the_o matter_n to_o which_o it_o 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