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A35963 Miracles not ceas'd to His Grace George Duke of Buckingham &c., of his miraculous cure and of the rest of all the most wonderfull and glorious miracles and cures wrought by a Roman Catholick priest in and about the cities of London and Westminister, in the moneths of Iune and Iuly 1663, in confirmation of the holy Roman Catholick faith / by A.S. A. S.; Digby, John.; Digby, Kenelm, Sir, 1603-1665. 1663 (1663) Wing D1420; ESTC R26481 13,205 36

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former Church is broken and dissolved If ever the Church of Rome divided her self by Schism from any other Body of faithful Christians brake Communion or went forth from the society of any elder Church I pray satisfie me to these particulars 1. Whose company did she leave 2. From whom did she go 3. Where was the true Church that she did forsake For it appears a little strange to me that a Church should be counted schismatical when there cannot be assigned another Church different from her which from age to age hath continued visible from whence she departed CHAP. III. A Dialogue between a Catholick and a Protestant concerning Religion 1. IT happened on a time that a certain Roman-Catholick and a Protestant discoursing together of Religion after many words changed concluded in this manner following Catholick Do you believe in God the Father Almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth and in Jesus Christ his onely Son our Lord Protestant I do Cath. Do you believe in the Holy Ghost the Holy Catholick Church Prot. I do Cath. Why then would you not hear and obey the Holy Catholick Church as Christ and his Father under pain of eternal damnation commands thee Do you not know that the Scripture affirmeth It is not every man that saith Lord Lord to Christ shall enter into the Kingdome of Heaven but he that doth the will of his Father Matth. 7. 21. But the Will of the Father is that every man hear Christ. This is my beloved Son him hear ye Matth. 17 5. Therefore every man that heareth not Christ shall not enter into the Kingdome of Heaven But Christ willeth and commandeth that every man hear the Church Mat. 18. 17. He that heareth you heareth me and he that despiseth you despiseth me and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent Luc. 10. 16. He that heareth not the Church let him be unto thee as an Heathen and Publican Mat. 18. 17. Therefore every man that heareth not the Church shall not enter into the Kingdome of Heaven Why then I say would you not hear and obey the Church which is always Holy and Catholick why would you not believe all whatsoever she proposeth to be believed why forsake you her why follow you the Protestant 2. Prot. I do hear and obey the Catholick Church I believe all whatsoever she proposeth to be believed I forsake her not I follow the Protestant because this is the Catholick Church Cath. How can you prove that the Protestant Church is the Catholick Church Prot. I must confess though I have not sufficient learning to prove it yet I have faith enough to believe it because our learned Ministers tell us so Cath. You cannot tell but your learned Ministers may be mistaken Prot. Neither can you prove they are mistaken Cath. Yes I can Prot. How I pray you 3. Cath. Very well because there is but one Catholick Church that is to say one Church which is universal for time place and believers Luk. 1. 33. Mark 16. 15. which is the faithfull people dispersed throughout the world St Augustin in Psalm 149. which is the Light of the world and a City built upon a Mountain that cannot be hid Matth. 5. 14. and consequently visible and known and easily discerned from Turks and Jewes and Heathens and Hereticks even by her name But this Catholick Church is the Romane Pontificial for Shee alone is the visible and known universal Church for time place and believers All the rest are not universal for time place nor believers for they began of late they are but in few places they are but on handfull in respect of the Catholick Church Therefore they are mistaken that tell you She is the Protestant 4. Moreover if the visible and known Catholick Church cannot fail or err in matters of Faith She must have alwaies remained since Christs time to this day without interruption and errour But the visible and known Catholick Church cannot fail or err in matters of Faith for She is alwaies Holy I believe in the Holy Ghost the Holy Catholick Church The Apostles Creed She is the spotless Spouse of Christ Hos. 2. 9. with which her Head and spouse and the Spirit of Truth abides for ever Matth. 28. 20. John 14. 16. The pillar and firmament of Truth 1 Tim. 3. 15. and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against her Matth. 16. 18. Therefore She must have alwaies remained since Christs time to this day without interruption errour Otherwise we could have nothing sure But no ●ther visible Catholick Church remained since Christs time to this day without interruption and errour but the Romane Pontificial Therefore the Romane Pontificial alone is the visible and known Catholick Church 5. If any can say that the Romane Pontificial Church hath not alwaies remained since Christs time to this day without interruption and errour let him tell when was the Succession of her Bishops Pastours and Believers interrupted or when and wherein did She err what general Council condemned her what holy Father wrote against her Or that there remained any other visible Church on earth since Christs time to this day without interruption and errour Let him tell what was She what is She where was she where is She what is her name what Bishops and Pastours had She or as yet hath She what Emperours or Kings did adhere unto her or now do what General Councils did She hold what Hereticks did She condemn what Academies did She confirm what Churches Monasteries and Hospitals did She build c. Sure the Greek Church or Churches have not alwaies remained since Christs time to this day without interruption witness the world nor yet without errour for they Heretically deny the Procession of the Holy Ghost from the Father and the Son c. The Lutheran and Calvinian Church which they call Reformed is erroneous and new for it began with the Reformation from whence it hath its name which was done by Luther and Calvin as their Followers gloriously averr But I ask them that so glory in this Reformation were not Luther and Calvin when they first boasted of the Spirit and began to reform the Church were they not I say then to be tryed Prot. They needed no tryal for their Spirit was of God Cath. How do you know their Spirit was of God or how can you make this appear Prot. I know it very well and though I cannot make it appear yet our learned Ministers can sufficiently prove it Cath. They never yet could prove it nor ever shall we defie them and suppose their Spirit were from God yet still they were to be tryed according to the Scripture 1 John 4. 1. Beloved believe not every Spirit but trye the Spirits whether they are of God because many false Prophets are gone out into the world Upon which words even your own newest Bible in the Argument of this Chapter saith He warneth them not to believe all Teachers who boast of the Spirit but to