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22._o cap._n 8._o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o report_v such_o a_o thing_n and_o add_v that_o he_o pray_v as_o earnest_o as_o he_o can_v that_o that_o vexation_n may_v cease_v first_o it_o be_v not_o saint_n augustine_n himself_o that_o do_v this_o but_o another_o and_o this_o fact_n be_v not_o either_o commend_v or_o allow_v to_o be_v well_o do_v of_o saint_n augustine_n but_o they_o will_v answer_v the_o evil_a spirit_n leave_v the_o house_n and_o therefore_o the_o event_n proove_v the_o fact_n to_o be_v good_a not_o so_o but_o it_o be_v a_o argument_n of_o god_n might_n and_o mercy_n that_o can_v and_o will_v by_o evil_a or_o the_o abuse_n of_o good_a mean_n bring_v to_o pass_v good_a thing_n second_o it_o may_v just_o be_v doubt_v whether_o saint_n augustine_n do_v impute_v this_o effect_n unto_o that_o sacrifice_n that_o he_o speak_v of_o or_o the_o earnest_a prayer_n that_o be_v make_v for_o it_o yea_o it_o seem_v rather_o that_o he_o impute_v it_o unto_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o 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