Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	believe_v	church_n	err_v	1,967	5	9.6697	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A06697	A profitable dialogue for a peruerted papist. Or a little labour of a lay men tending to the profit of a peruerted Papist: namely, by laying open vnto him his ovvne errour, in beleeuing that the Church of Rome cannot erre. Composed in dialogue maner, as it were betweene a simple lay man, and certayne graue diuines, and published onely for the benefit of the lay Papist. VVritten by R.M. gent. and student in Diuinity.	R. M., student in divinity.	1609 (1609)	STC 17149; ESTC S103258	25,816	46

visible_a congregation_n which_o may_v profess_v christ_n by_o word_n and_o deny_v he_o by_o deed_n another_o four_o touch_v baptism_n the_o outward_a sacrament_n the_o wash_n of_o the_o outward_a man_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o the_o inward_a grace_n the_o cleanse_n of_o the_o inward_a man_n another_z five_o touch_v the_o eucharist_n the_o outward_a sacrament_n also_o food_n for_o the_o body_n be_v one_o thing_n and_o the_o inward_a matter_n everlasting_a life_n for_o the_o soul_n another_o and_o so_o forth_o in_o the_o like_a now_o the_o faithful_a know_v well_o the_o difference_n in_o these_o thing_n and_o that_o the_o one_o may_v be_v oftentimes_o take_v without_o the_o other_o will_v never_o permit_v the_o adversary_n to_o pass_v away_o uncorrect_v with_o any_o untruth_n therein_o be_v it_o never_o so_o little_a because_o from_o one_o error_n another_o may_v ensue_v but_o not_o possible_a direct_o a_o error_n to_o proceed_v from_o truth_n for_o god_n word_n be_v not_o both_o yea_o and_o nay_o in_o one_o thing_n but_o absolute_o yea_o or_o nay_o as_o s._n paul_n testify_v 1._o testify_v 2._o cor._n 1._o as_o touch_v the_o manner_n of_o my_o collect_v hereof_o i_o may_v just_o avouch_v it_o from_o the_o first_o author_n themselves_o but_o admit_v it_o be_v otherwise_o yet_o let_v no_o man_n be_v so_o vain_a as_o to_o think_v the_o truth_n to_o be_v of_o less_o force_n in_o one_o place_n then_o in_o another_o but_o let_v he_o rather_o learn_v this_o wisdom_n from_o s._n paul_n that_o although_o paul_n or_o apollo_n or_o whosoever_o plant_n and_o water_n yet_o it_o be_v god_n only_o that_o give_v the_o blessing_n of_o increase_n 7._o increase_n 1._o cor._n 3._o 6_o 7._o and_o because_o god_n may_v give_v that_o heavenly_a blessing_n to_o who_o he_o will_v and_o without_o respect_n of_o person_n 9_o person_n ephe._n 6._o 9_o in_o hope_n of_o the_o same_o blessing_n upon_o this_o my_o little_a labour_n rude_a and_o harsh_a in_o manner_n and_o form_n though_o in_o substance_n according_a to_o truth_n i_o will_v now_o require_v no_o more_o of_o thou_o courteous_a reader_n but_o that_o thou_o will_v permit_v it_o thy_o favourable_a passport_n and_o not_o to_o reject_v the_o manner_n of_o it_o more_o than_o to_o respect_v the_o matter_n in_o it_o in_o so_o do_v thou_o shall_v declare_v thyself_o a_o most_o faithful_a friend_n to_o the_o simple_a truth_n and_o thereby_o not_o just_o to_o offend_v any_o whosoever_o vale._n a_o profitable_a dialogue_n for_o a_o pervert_v papist_n wherein_o he_o may_v clear_o discern_v his_o own_o error_n in_o believe_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n can_v err_v the_o first_o part_n brief_o treat_v of_o the_o church_n lay_v man_n divine_a augustine_n forasmuch_o as_o thy_o proper_a work_n be_v of_o great_a fame_n &_o estimation_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o now_o in_o part_n be_v fall_v from_o that_o her_o first_o faith_n and_o integrity_n which_o sometime_o thou_o do_v know_v she_o sincere_o to_o hold_v for_o she_o do_v now_o presumptuous_o avouch_v that_o she_o can_v not_o err_v in_o any_o substantial_a point_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n and_o by_o reason_n of_o that_o vain_a and_o presumptuous_a opinion_n she_o be_v fall_v by_o evil_a custom_n into_o diverse_a error_n by_o which_o great_a controversy_n among_o christian_n do_v arise_v therefore_o in_o the_o behalf_n of_o many_o simple_a lay_v people_n we_o most_o earnest_o crave_v of_o thou_o reverend_a father_n to_o tell_v we_o direct_o thy_o true_a opinion_n touch_v the_o vain_a opinion_n of_o they_o which_o hold_v that_o the_o same_o church_n can_v err_v we_o certain_o persuade_v ourselves_o that_o thy_o direct_a answer_n herein_o will_v great_o prevail_v with_o those_o our_o adversary_n for_o some_o of_o they_o have_v write_v 3._o write_v n._n d._n author_n of_o the_o wardword_n in_o his_o 1._o book_n of_o of_o the_o ●_o conversion_n of_o england_n chap._n 3._o as_o a_o matter_n of_o great_a moment_n against_o heretic_n that_o wheresoever_o any_o doctrine_n be_v find_v in_o any_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n which_o be_v not_o contradict_v nor_o note_v by_o any_o of_o the_o rest_n as_o singular_a that_o doctrine_n be_v to_o be_v presume_v to_o be_v no_o particular_a opinion_n of_o he_o but_o rather_o the_o general_a of_o all_o the_o church_n in_o his_o day_n for_o that_o otherwise_o it_o will_v most_o certain_o have_v be_v note_v and_o impugn_a by_o other_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o whatsoever_o be_v speak_v by_o thou_o learned_a aug._n not_o yet_o contradict_v they_o must_v thereby_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n in_o thy_o flourish_a day_n we_o confess_v that_o the_o true_a holy_a catholic_a church_n can_v final_o err_v for_o hell_n gate_n be_v not_o able_a to_o prevail_v against_o it_o 18._o it_o mat._n 16._o 18._o but_o this_o holy_a catholic_a church_n we_o understand_v to_o consist_v only_o of_o the_o elect_n as_o our_o créede_v witness_v even_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n which_o without_o spot_n or_o wrinkle_n christ_n by_o his_o precious_a blood_n have_v make_v glorious_a to_o himself_o 27._o himself_o ephe._n ●_o 27._o for_o against_o all_o other_o hell_n gate_n do_v prevail_v and_o that_o do_v the_o evangelist_n s_o john_n witness_n say_v 19_o say_v 1._o john_n ●_o 19_o they_o go_v out_o from_o we_o but_o they_o be_v not_o of_o we_o for_o if_o they_o have_v be_v of_o we_o they_o will_v have_v continue_v with_o we_o but_o this_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o they_o be_v not_o all_o of_o we_o etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o against_o whosoever_o hell_n gate_n may_v prevail_v they_o also_o may_v err_v for_o it_o be_v most_o true_a that_o none_o can_v err_v more_o than_o those_o that_o take_v the_o ready_a way_n to_o hell_n suppose_v they_o go_v to_o heaven_n by_o which_o we_o may_v well_o hold_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n that_o not_o all_o which_o receyve_v the_o outward_a sacrament_n of_o baptism_n be_v then_o make_v member_n of_o that_o church_n which_o can_v final_o err_v and_o by_o this_o we_o may_v well_o prove_v also_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n may_v as_o much_o err_v as_o the_o mean_a of_o we_o layman_n saint_n ambrose_n say_v chap._n say_v upon_o s._n luk●_n the_o 6._o book_n &_o 9_o chap._n that_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v say_v if_o thou_o will_v be_v a_o rock_n say_v he_o thou_o shall_v be_v in_o the_o church_n because_o the_o church_n be_v upon_o a_o rock_n if_o thou_o be_v in_o the_o church_n the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o thou_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n be_v the_o gate_n of_o death_n but_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n can_v be_v the_o gate_n of_o the_o church_n and_o what_o be_v the_o gate_n of_o death_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o gate_n of_o hell_n but_o every_o one_o of_o our_o several_a sin_n etc._n etc._n and_o more_o in_o a_o other_o place_n psalm_n place_n upon_o the_o 40._o psalm_n where_o peter_n the_o rock_n be_v say_v he_o there_o be_v the_o church_n where_o the_o church_n be_v there_o be_v no_o death_n but_o eternal_a life_n and_o therefore_o he_o add_v and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o he_o than_o that_o life_n and_o die_v in_o his_o sin_n both_o life_n and_o die_v out_o of_o the_o unity_n of_o that_o holy_a church_n against_o which_o hell_n gate_n can_v not_o prevail_v but_o for_o these_o thing_n speak_v divine_a augustine_n aug._n my_o son_n 22._o son_n against_o cresconius_n the_o 2_o book_n chap._n 21_o 22._o the_o apostle_n paul_n do_v say_v 2._o say_v ephe._n ●_o 2._o that_o the_o church_n be_v make_v subject_n to_o christ_n the_o church_n therefore_o ought_v not_o to_o prefer_v herself_o before_o christ_n that_o she_o shall_v think_v to_o be_v able_a to_o baptize_v those_o which_o be_v judge_v or_o condemn_v by_o he_o but_o not_o possible_a of_o herself_o to_o baptize_v they_o because_o he_o always_o judge_v true_o but_o the_o judge_n of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v man_n be_v often_o deceive_v therefore_o forasmuch_o as_o pertain_v to_o the_o visible_a ministry_n both_o good_a and_o evil_n baptize_v but_o by_o they_o he_o do_v invisible_o baptize_v of_o who_o both_o the_o visible_a baptism_n and_o the_o invisible_a grace_n be_v both_o good_a and_o evil_a then_o may_v sprinkle_v but_o to_o wash_v the_o conscience_n not_o any_o can_v do_v it_o but_o he_o which_o be_v always_o good_a good_a good_a none_o but_o god_n always_o good_a and_o by_o this_o also_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o evil_a and_o pollute_a conscience_n the_o church_n be_v ignorant_a of_o such_o as_o be_v condemn_v by_o christ_n they_o be_v not_o they_o in_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o church_n because_o

form_n etc._n etc._n compare_v the_o sign_n with_o the_o truth_n &_o thou_o shall_v understand_v the_o similitude_n for_o the_o figure_n ought_v to_o be_v like_o the_o truth_n for_o true_o that_o body_n have_v the_o first_o form_n and_o figure_n and_o circumscription_n and_o that_o i_o may_v say_v at_o once_o the_o substance_n of_o a_o body_n but_o it_o be_v make_v immortal_a after_o the_o resurrection_n etc._n etc._n lay._n most_o true_a it_o be_v grave_a father_n christ_n have_v still_o the_o true_a substance_n of_o a_o body_n and_o therefore_o the_o sign_n and_o the_o thing_n signify_v be_v alike_o those_o heretic_n whosoever_o they_o be_v that_o seem_v to_o prove_v the_o form_n of_o bread_n in_o the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v there_o without_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n do_v thereby_o seem_v to_o prove_v also_o christ_n to_o a_o have_v a_o fantastical_a body_n that_o be_v a_o body_n in_o show_n without_o the_o substance_n of_o a_o body_n but_o thou_o do_v hear_v most_o plain_o confute_v that_o palpable_a absurdity_n &_o therein_o thou_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n for_o what_o christian_n live_v a_o thousand_o year_n since_o or_o upward_o do_v ever_o affirm_v such_o a_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o thereby_o christ_n god_n and_o man_n be_v to_o be_v swallow_v into_o the_o body_n of_o many_o damn_a creature_n we_o find_v many_o proof_n from_o antiquity_n to_o the_o contrary_a as_o partly_o have_v be_v note_v already_o and_o yet_o for_o more_o witness_n thereof_o we_o note_v s._n ambrose_n also_o who_o say_v plain_o touch_v this_o sacred_a bread_n even_o christ_n himself_o that_o it_o be_v not_o bread_n which_o go_v into_o the_o body_n 4._o body_n in_o his_o ●_o book_n of_o sacrament_n chap._n 4._o but_o the_o bread_n of_o eternal_a life_n which_o strengthen_v the_o substance_n of_o our_o soul_n etc._n etc._n he_o say_v not_o as_o some_o perverse_o misconstrue_v he_o non_fw-la transi●e_n in_o corpus_fw-la per_fw-la nutritionem_fw-la chap._n nutritionem_fw-la bellarm._n upon_o the_o eucharist_n the_o 2._o book_n &_o 14._o chap._n it_o pass_v not_o through_o the_o body_n by_o nourishment_n but_o non_fw-la vadit_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la it_o go_v not_o into_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n who_o then_o can_v mistake_v he_o here_o but_o he_o that_o wilful_o make_v himself_o ignorant_a even_o he_o which_o by_o such_o undirect_a deal_n pervert_v thy_o word_n also_o say_v 27._o say_v bellarm._n in_o the_o same_o book_n chap._n 27._o where_o thou_o do_v affirm_v the_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o remain_v after_o sanctification_n both_o in_o substance_n nature_n figure_n and_o form_n as_o they_o be_v before_o thou_o do_v thereby_o mean_a only_o the_o sensible_a accident_n and_o visible_a form_n do_v so_o remain_v but_o the_o substance_n to_o be_v change_v but_o if_o such_o weak_a defend_n of_o error_n be_v allow_v for_o good_a and_o lawful_a in_o vain_a than_o it_o be_v to_o bring_v any_o testimony_n from_o antiquity_n against_o heretic_n but_o we_o hope_v that_o such_o perverse_a answer_n from_o the_o perverter_n may_v prove_v in_o good_a time_n a_o good_a motive_n for_o the_o pervert_v to_o look_v about_o he_o betimes_o and_o not_o both_o to_o live_v and_o die_v a_o child_n in_o understanding_n for_o ignorance_n can_v excuse_v those_o that_o wilful_o refuse_v to_o walk_v by_o the_o light_n of_o holy_a scripture_n the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v a_o lantern_n unto_o my_o foot_n and_o a_o light_n unto_o my_o path_n say_v the_o prophet_n david_n 119._o david_n psalm_n 119._o it_o be_v as_o a_o light_n shine_v in_o a_o dark_a place_n say_v s._n peter_n 1._o peter_n 2._o pet._n 1._o by_o which_o we_o be_v give_v to_o understand_v that_o as_o the_o sun_n give_v light_a to_o the_o corporal_a eye_n so_o do_v the_o holy_a scripture_n give_v light_n to_o the_o spiritual_a eye_n whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o if_o neither_o our_o adversaries_n nor_o ourselves_o will_v wilful_o 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all_o his_o mystical_a conversation_n in_o the_o flesh_n flesh_n and_o blood_n and_o make_v manifest_v that_o doctrine_n which_o depend_v of_o his_o life_n actual_a natural_a and_o divine_a by_o which_o the_o soul_n be_v nourish_v exercise_v and_o train_v up_o to_o the_o contemplation_n of_o heavenly_a thing_n etc._n etc._n but_o we_o deny_v such_o a_o gross_a eat_n and_o drink_v therein_o that_o thereby_o both_o the_o righteous_a and_o the_o unrighteous_a be_v make_v partaker_n of_o christ_n which_o doctrine_n be_v most_o manifest_a against_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n 21._o scripture_n 1._o cor._n 10._o 21._o we_o deny_v also_o such_o a_o gross_a eat_n &_o drink_v therein_o that_o thereby_o lay_v people_n must_v not_o communicate_v with_o the_o bless_a cup_n of_o our_o lord_n fear_v lest_o they_o shall_v shed_v his_o prectous_a blood_n upon_o their_o garment_n or_o lest_o by_o the_o weakness_n of_o their_o stomach_n they_o shall_v bring_v up_o again_o their_o creator_n by_o 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