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A79534 A true discovery of the ignorance, blindness, and darkness of those who are called magistrates about Carlile in Cumberland, who call Light darkness, and truth error, and judge them blasphemers who are sent of the Lord to declare the eternal word of truth amongst them, but the Lord hath made himself manifest in the hearts of his people, and opened their eyes here in the northern parts, whereby they plainly see the tyranny, oppression, and cruelty of those who are called magistrates and rulers, who do imprison the servants of the most high God, for declaring against sin and abomination, held up in markets and steeple-houses, and so they that depart from iniquity and stand in obedience to the commands of the Lord, makes himself a prey to that generation; but the Lord is risen for Sions deliverance, all praise and glory be to him for evermore. J.C. Camm, John, 1604?-1656. 1654 (1654) Wing C393; Thomason E740_8; ESTC R202139 12,325 19

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the Resurrection of the dead or eternal life or witness Christ come again or the Holy Ghost as the Apostles did or witness the Son of God made manifest him you beat stock stone imprison hale before Magistrates persecute as vagabonds and wanderers and many saith that whosoever kills them they do God good service and there the Scripture is fulfilled on you And see now what your faith is in this you call your word when you do not believe it when you see it fulfilled nay ye are more cruel then the Scribes and Pharisees was which crucified Jesus Christ for they looked for a Christ because the Prophets had prophesied on him but when he came they did not know him but asked him If he was the Christ but now you profess Christ come in the flesh and Christs Resurrection and the Resurrection of the body as the Scripture mentions and you say it is so because the Letter saith it is so though you know nothing of the Resurrection of the dead but denies the first principle the light that leads to life and to the Resurrection and death reigns in you that hath passed over all men and you are looking without you saying Lo here is Christ and lo there contrary to Christs Command and there that prophesie of Christ is fulfilled upon you who saith the Kingdom of heaven cometh not with observations but the kingdom of heaven is in you and you are persecuting them whom Christ hath enlightned and who witnesses the Scriptures as as they speak who bears testimony to the truth of them And here you are found lyars and sayers but not doers as the Scribes and Pharisees were that Christ cryed wo against and here you are without all example or president that ever was since the creation that a people should professe a thing and persecute and imprison those that possesses the same that you professe And here you are above all cruelty and tyranny that ever was but you are given up to hardnesse of heart and blindenesse and your Leaders and Teachers have erred from the Lord though they have professed the words of Christ where it will make for their own ends and purposes yet they deny the light which Christ saith he hath enlightned every one with that comes into the world which is the light of the conscience which is in every man which they say is natural and here they keep people from the first principle that leads into truth and into obedience of the Lord. And they deny Revelations and so denies Jesus Christ though Jesus Christ saith That none knows the father but the son and he to whom he doth reveal him and so you keep poor people strangers from the life of God and they deny perfection and cleansing from sin while they are here though Jesus Christ saith Be ye perfect as your heavenly father is perfect and by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified and the Scripture witnesses the cleansing of the Saints all along and the perfecting of them according to their growth but poor people are kept in blindness and ignorance with hearkning to their filthy inventions and blind imaginations and meanings that they give to the Scripture when no prophesie of it came not by the will of man but the Lord God of power and life is found true and all them are found to be lyars eternal praises be unto his name for ever For Christ Jesus is risen and the Son is revealed and the blood of Jesus Christ is witnessed which cleanseth from all sin And the Eternal Spirit of Life is witnessed which all the blind guides are ignorant of praises praises be to the Lord God for ever Therefore all people every where if you would know the living God hearken to the light in your consciences which convinceth you and lets you see sin and evil and checks you when you do wrong let that lead and guide your mind and that will lead you to God who is the Father of light turn your minds within and keep close to the light in your conscience there is your Teacher and that is it and if you do not obey it that will be your eternal condemnation so if you love your souls hearken diligently unto that and your soul shall live and spend not your money for that which is not bread nor go not after your blind Guides for they know not what the soul is nor where it is but one saith this is the soul another saith that is the soul nor none of them knows that they have a soul nor cannot witness a living soul but they are them that makes merchandize of souls Therefore beware of them as you love your souls and go not after them now you have time prize it and if you love the light which Christ hath enlightened you withal you love your souls and if you hate this light which would keep your mindes up to God you hate your souls IF any one in Westmerland or Cumberland or elsewhere that owns the truth have a love to Christ and owns his light which he hath enlightened every one that comes into the world with all and hath a love to God and are not satisfied in the things of God with him whom the world calls George Fox hath spoken and declared forth let them declare it and publish it in writing and not to backbite nor lye nor persecute in secret this I demand and command of you all in the presence of the living God as you will answer it in the presence of the living God For the exaltation of the truth and the confounding of the deceit is this given forth that truth may be exalted and deceit confounded to that of God in the Consciences I speak declare or write it to any of them whom you call Quakers that truth may be exalted and all things come to the light which Christ hath enlightned every one with that comes into the world and that nothing should be hid in darkness prisons or holes or corners that all things may come to the light of Christ and tryed with the light of Christ this was I moved of the Lord to write forth to be set on the Crosses in Westmerland and elsewhere To the light of Christ in you I speak that none of you may speak evil of the things of God you know not lest you be found fighters against God and the hand of the Lord be turned against you and not to act contrary to the light that gave forth the Scriptures FINIS
A True DISCOVERY Of the Ignorance Blindness and Darkness Of those Who are called Magistrates about Carlile in Cumberland who call Light Darkness and Truth Error and judge them blasphemers who are sent of the Lord to declare the eternal word of truth amongst them but the Lord hath made himself manifest in the hearts of his people and opened their eys here in the northern parts whereby they plainly see the Tyranny Oppression and Cruelty of those who are called Magistrates and Rulers who do imprison the servants of the most high God for declaring against sin and abomination held up in Markets and Steeple-houses and so they that depart from iniquity and stand in obedience to the Commands of the Lord makes himself a prey to that generation but the Lord is risen for Sions deliverance all Praise and Glory be to him for evermore J. C. LONDON Printed for G. Calvert 1654. A true discovery of the Ignorance Blindness and Darkness of those who are called Magistrates about Carlile in Cumberland HIm whom the world calls George Fox was moved of the Lord God of Heaven and Earth to go into Cumberland and the Lord let him see he had a people in it and was moved to go into Carlile and was moved to go into the Market and stept upon the side of the Cross and a grief came upon him to see the deceits and filthiness that the people lived in and he was moved to bid them lay away all deceitful Marchandise and cozening and cheating and bad them repent for the judgement day of the Lord is coming and other words as he passed up the streets afterwards he was moved to go up to the Castle to speak to the souldiers to shew them where their Teacher was and their condemnation was the light of Christ that hated it then upon the first day he was moved to go to the Steeple-house and he stayed till the Priest had done and the Priest passed a-away and then the rude multitude rose and there was a cry Down with the Roundheaded rogues ANd upon the second day of the week the Magistrates thereabouts they sent for him the said George and examined him and sent him to prison as the examination followeth Oh the oaths that is in the Land the Land mourns because of oaths and fighters strikers and drunkards and all manner of wickedness so that men if they can but have a kinde of a custom of preaching and telling what the Prophets and Apostles spoke And to have a fellow to have so much in the year to read it and expound it or preach it as they call it and people to come once a week to hear him so then after some to the Ale-house drinking and some fighting and swearing and cursing when many hath been moved of the Lord to go into their Assemblies and to speak what they have been moved of the Lord to speak in the time of their speaking some striking with Bibles some with fists some with stones and some haled to the stocks and before Magistrates and so to prison and say they have broken Queen Maries Law which Law guarded all the Papists and Jesuits which Law guards the Priests in England now so then you are under the popish act and his power which is to be condemned with the unlimited power which power should limit the spirit of the mighty God of Heaven and Earth who is setting up his own Law who will give liberty to the righteous seed I am moved to warn you to take heed how you make Laws to limit the holy Spirit of God if you do God will turn his sword against you and cut you down A friend of them whom the world calls Quakers when he was brought before the Rulers and Magistrates they asked him what was his name and he said it was hid from the world and the world knew it not and they asked him what his name was and he said they should never know it and then he was free to tell them what the world called him else he saw their deceit And he asked whether they should overcome sin as long as they were here upon the Earth and they said no so then he put them among the Papists in the Purgatory after death The Examination and Accusation of Geo. Fox THe Accusation of George Fox being the name as the world calls him by late of Drayton in Leicestershire taken at Carlisle the first of August saith as the world saith He was born in Leicestershire and that he is in perfect memory at this time and that he hath attained to perfection and that he hath been in Heaven and that there is but one Son of God and that he is risen and speaketh to us now here and that he doth not commit sin for he that is born of God sinneth not neither can he have any remorse for sin he that is born of God neither can he because he is born of God and the seed of God remaineth in him and that the Saints upon the Earth doth judge the hearts and that Thomas Cresters did sin in tempting him by propounding some Questions to him And he saith That the Bible is a Decsaration of the word of God and not the Word but God is the Word and that which he speaks is true Scripture and there is but One and that which he speaks is Truth and Eternal you shall witness it speaking to Wilfro Lawson and others then present And being demanded why he came into the place he said he was moved of the Lord of Heaven and Earth to speak to the Consciences of men and that particularly the words that he did speak did harden Thomas Cresters heart and that he now sees the face of God as wel as the faces of them that were present at this Examination he being asked why he continued in the meeting-place after he was wished to depart he said Whether is it better to obey God or man by the means to avoid tumuits and disorder being demanded likewise whether he would stay in this place he saith he must stay lo long as his Fathers Will is And when I began to declare against the deceits of the Priests and how they acted contrary to Christ I heard Make him a Mittimus And what I was moved of the Lord to come thither for where every one might have his Teacher and that in all Consciences should witness me eternally The Rulers wives were the first that persecuted in the Steeple-house and stirred up the rude multitude A Prisoner of the Lord at Carlisle and standing accused for witnessing forth that which the Saints witnessed And having a cloud of Scriptures to maintain nhe same that the ignorant and simple may see that it was the righteous seed that ever suffered by the unrighteous seed of evil doers which suffers so Accusation 1. ANd for that I am accused for saying I was in Heaven which I have many witnesses in the Scriptures as followeth Paul said he was caught up into the third