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A12484 Of the author and substance of the protestant church and religion two bookes. Written first in Latin by R.S. Doctour of Diuinity, and now reuiewed by the author, and translated into English by VV. Bas.; De auctore et essentia Protestanticae Ecclesiae et religionis libri duo. English Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.; Bas., W. 1621 (1621) STC 22812; ESTC S117611 239,031 514

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Castro should say that the fornamed persons did come forth in such sort as we mean that is came out of the Protestāt lurking holes or to haue bin secret Protestāts before Luther appeared seeing he only saith that they came forth in such sort as he saith Luther came forth to wit forth of the Catholik church of Catholiks became heretiks 3. Fiftly I proue it out of the common doctrine of Protestants wherin they teach that euery one ought to adioyne himselfe to the visible Church if so he can conueniently For so teacheth the Confession of the low countryes art 28. the French art 26. Melancthon in cap. 8. Matth. Caluin 4. Institut cap. 1. D whitaker Cont. 2. quest 3 cap. 2 and others commonly But these former Protestants if any such had bin might conueniētly haue ioyned themselues to Luthers cōpany after that they saw him to preach securely and out of danger Seeing therfore no such came to him it is manifest that there were no such at all Finally this is manifest otherwise For suppose that before Luther they lay so close as that they worshipped God only in hart and soule yet when they saw Protestancy to be preached publiquely and securely and that they might liue openly and amongst men who will imagine that they would preferre darcknes before light and lurking holes before townes and citties and alwayes keep in deserts Certaidly such kind of fellowes should be rather batts or owles then men Besides being iust men forsooth why did they not afford God externall worship whē they might securely doe it Why did they not according to Christs commandement celebrate the memory of his Passion by receiuing of the Sacraments 4. Out of these I compose the seauenth demonstration If after that Luther securely preached Protestancy neuer any ancienter Protestant came forth and adioyned himselfe to his company there were no Protestants before But no such euer came forth Ergo. But if there were no Protestant before Luther vndoubtedly he was the beginner of that company That the Protestant Church and Religion is new CHAP. XIII THE eighth demonstration with which we will proue that Luther was the beginner of the Protestant Church and religion we will frame out of Protestāts Confessions of the nouelty therof First therfore they say that in the iudgment almost of all men it is new and that it is almost impossible Now in almost all mens iudgement to wipe away from it the spot of noueltie Thus Illyricus in the Preface of his Catalogue VVhen Doctours raysed of God preach the Protestant gospell and doe inueigh against contrary errors they seeme in the iudgement almost of all men to bring a new doctrine vnheard of before and to impugne the old Againe It is very hard and almost impossible to remoue the hatefull marck of nouelty from the Protestant doctrine Almost impossible To which D. Fulke lib. de Success pag. 454. addeth that the Protestant religion VVas altogether new to most nations 2. Secondly in equiualent words they oftentymes call their Religion new or begun of new For as we shal straight rehearse they terme it in the blade renascent reuiuing borne a new renewed repayred restored raysed againe resuscitated And what can be meant by these termes but a religion either new or newly erecteth such as Christs religion is not For neither is it new in it selfe neither can it be begun or raysed anew because it can neuer fall Luther in cap. 22. Genes tom fol. 208. writeth thus Borne anew In the beginning of the gospell borne a new Monetarius c.. In cap. 31. fol. 434 Nine assemblies haue beene held since the Ghospell began to be borne a new In cap. 32. fol. 458 After the light of the Ghospell was borne againe In cap. 48. fol. 643. Borne againe At the beginning of the Ghospell rising againe In cap. 49. fol. 662. They desire to extinguish the light of the Ghospell rising againe In cap. fol. 342. I remember that before these tymes of the Ghospell borne a new And in the Praefat. Deuter. tom 3. Ienen fol. 75. The rising againe or rather springing Ghospell Rising againe Thus speaketh Luther Melancthon Apol. pro Luthero tom 2. Lutheri fol. 194. You oppose against the rising light of the Ghospell And respons ad Clerum Colon. tom 2. pag. 97. The beginning of the pure doctrine rising againe And in cap. 7 Matth. tom 1. Renewed fol 398 He termeth it renewed doctrine Carion in Chron. pag. 706. calleth their Church the renascent Church Iustus Ionas Epist dedicat lib. Lutheri de Iudaeis tom 7. fol. 166. God would that in our time the Gospel should be borne againe vnder the house of Saxony Reuiuing Besoldus in his Preface of the 4. part of Luthers Cōmētarie vpon Genes hath these words In the begining of the Church borne anew O siander in his Manual englished pag. 62 Our doctrine is renewed And his sonne Lucas Epist Euchar The doctrine of the gospel borne againe The author of the Sponge in Daneus pag. 13. Christianity greene calleth it the light of the Ghospell borne againe the Euangelicall doctrin reuiuing or quickning againe Kemnice in locis part 2. p. 106. In the beginning of the Ghospell borne againe Amongst the Sacramentaryes Zuinglius speaketh thus in supplicat ad Suithenses fol 121 Christianity being greene christianity rising againe And in Eccles fol. 41. New born truth Which phrase he repeateth disput tom 2. fol. 607. Gesnerus in Bibliotheca sayth of Luther The new borne Church doth owe much vnto him Recalled Ghospell Muscle Epist dedicat locorum I was in the beginning of the new rising Euangelicall truth Bucer in Retract pag. 642. vseth these words Beginning of the new born Ghospell Among the Ministers of the recalled Ghospell Beza in cap 3. Rom. v. 20. They by whose Ministery God in our age hath recalled to light Christs Ghospell almost buryed Gualter Praefat. in Rom. How much harme the Anabaptists did at the beginning of the new borne Ghospell Quickning againe Martyr in locis tom 2. pag. 228. In the beginning of the Ghospell born againe And in Epist dedicat comment ad Rom. The Ghospell quickning againe Hospin Epist dedicat 1. part histor The Euangelicall truth borne againe Sohinus in Methodo Theol. pag. 215. Among the Doctours of the Church borne againe And Caluin 4. Institut cap. 7. § 24. The doctrsne of the Ghospell borne againe lib. de scand pag. 76. 94. The ghospell borne againe Admonit 2. ad Westphalum pag. 784. The Ghospell is borne againe And cont Scruetum pag. 592 Of the Ghospell borne againe And in like manner he speaketh ordinarily Sadel respo ad Arthurum cap. 7. The Church borne againe Paraeus in Miscellan Vrsini pag. 26. The light of the Ghospell borne againe Danaeus respons ad Solnec pag. 1565 In the very beginning of the Ghospell borne againe Plessic de Eccles cap. 11 Christ borne againe Cambden in apparatu Annalium The rising
the word that it leaueth to be a Church In cap. 17. Ioannis tom 5. fol. 203 For God hath not determined to conserue them the faythfull without outward meanes albeit he could do it Also vpon the 1. chap. of Zacharias Although God can teach men the Ghospell without sermons yet he will not do it And of the Notes of the church tom 7. fol. 149 VVhat could or would the people of God belieue vnlesse the word of God sounded there Melancthon in locis tom 3. cap. de libero arb fol. 311 God gathereth a true Church by the voice of the Ghospell and not otherwise Kemnice in the 2. part of his examen tit de Sacramento ordinis pag. 391 God by his certaine counsell hath determined that he will dispense those things which belong to the matter of our saluation not immediatly by infusing new and peculiar reuel●tions into the minds of men without any meanes but by the outward Ministry of the word Caluin 4 Institut cap. 1. § 5 Howbeit Gods power be not tyed to outward meanes neuertheles be hath tyed vs to the ordinary meanes of Preaching Many are pusht on by pride disdaine and emulation to perswade themselues that they can profit inough by priuate reading and meditating And § 4 The knowledge of her the visible Church is profitable to vs yea necessary for we cannot come to life vnlesse she conceiue vs in her wombe beare vs nourish vs with her duggs And in 1. Tim. cap. 3 The office of preaching which God hath left in his church is the only instrument of truth that it go not out of mens minds The Ministery of the word being taken away God truth will fall downe Beza epist 20 It is cleare that fayth cometh of hearing and therefore preaching must goe before fayth Tayé in his Enchiridion disput 60 The necessity of ecclesiasticall Ministry appeareth in that without it we can not know the word of God nor his will therein reuealed vnto vs. D. Whitaker lib. 1. de Scriptura cap. 9 sect 9. pag. 106 The ministry being taken away neither fayth nor Charity nor obedience nor any vertue will remayne safe And cap. 2. sect 6. pag. 37 VVe cannot at all belieue without the Ministry of the church And lib. 3. cap. 15 sect 20. pag. 478 I affirme determine and hold that there is no entrance to saluation without the Ministry of the word Againe by the Ministry of Pastors we belieue the Scripture neither is it to be hoped that without this Ministry sayth can grow in our minds And cap. 5. sect 2 I confesse the Ministry of the Church to be most necessary And Cont. 2. quest 5. cap. 19. pag. 550 VVe neuer come to fayth without preaching of the word D. Fu●ke de Succes pag. 30 The peoples saluation cannot be procured without preaching And pag 162 No Christian will deny preaching of the word to be necessary for the edification of the church M. Latimer in his sermons fol. 38 Take away preaching and take away saluation Fol. 99 The office of preaching is the only ordinary meane whereby God hath determined to saue vs. M. Cartwright in M. Hooker lib. 5. of Ecclesiasticall policy p. 41 Reading may set forward but not begin the worke of saluation sayth may be nourished therewith but not bred herein mens attention to the Scriptures and their speculation of the creatures of God haue like efficacy both being of power to augment but neither to effect beliefe without sermons And the Puritans in D. Whitgifts Answere to the Admonitions Reading is no feeding How then could there be any Protestant Church or fayth at all before Luther when as we heard before there was then no Protestant preacher Scripture requireth preaching And in like sort sometymes they confesse that the Scripture it selfe teacheth that preaching is necessary to haue fayth The Confession of Auspurg cap. de potest Eccles pag. 59 Euerlasting iustice the holy Ghost eternall life cannot be had but by the ministry of the word and Sacraments as Paul sayth The Confession of Bohemia art 10 They graunt that none can attaine to right sayth vnlesse he heare the word of God according to that of S. Paul Fayth is of hearing And againe How shall they belieue in him of whome they haue not heard And the Protestants in their conference at Marspurg agreed as reporteth Hospinian part 2. Histor fol 77 That the holy Ghost if we speake of the ordinary course giueth fayth to none vnlesse preaching or the vocall word goe before but by and with the vocall word he worketh and maketh fayth where and in whome it pleaseth him Rom 10. Caluin also 4. Institut cap. 1. § 5 God inspireth fayth into vs by the instrument of his Ghospell as Paul admonisheth that sayth is of hearing Againe VVe must hold that which I haue set downe out of Paul that the Church is not otherwise edified but by outward preaching and in 1. Tim. cap. 3 Paul meaneth simply that which in other words he deliuereth Rom. 10. because fayth is of hearing that there will be no sayth vnlesse there be preaching The like he hath 1. Cor. 3. v. 6. Heb. 4. v. 12. and Ephes 4. v. 12. Beza in the Conference at Montbelgard pag. 407 The ordinary manner whereby fayth is infused is by hearing the word Rom. 10. And Bucer in cap. 10. Rom The Apostle knew that God could call men without the ministry of men neuertheles he absolutely wrote How shall they belieue in him of whome they haue not heard Hyperius also vpon the same place That is that all belieue and call vpon God it is needfull that before they heare the Ghospell and be taught D. Whitaker lib. 1. de Scrip. cap. 2. sect 4 That of the Apostle how shall they belieue without a preacher conuinceth this much that preaching is necessary to conceiue assured of fayth God And c. 10. sect 4 The Apostle doth plainly say that fayth is of hearing And Cont. 2. quest 5. c. 19. pag. 549 This place of Isay 59. sheweth that true preaching of the word shall be perpetuall in the Church M. Perkins in his exposition of the Creed col 787 I answere that place Rom. 10. Faith is of hearing to be vnderstood of iustifying fayth So that neither the visible nor inuisible Church could euer haue byn without preaching 6. Out of all that hath byn sayd in this and the former chapter I thus make my fourth demonstration for to proue that Luther was Author of the Protestant Church If before Luther the Protestant Church had no Pastors she was not then at all But then she had no Pastors at all Therefore then she was not at all And by him she came to haue both Protestant Pastors and sheep Therfore by him she had her beginning The Maior is euident by those Confessions of Protestants which we haue rehearsed in this chapter and the Minor by those that were repeated in the former That the Protestants Church and Religion before Luther
religion of Protestants Christ borne againe Vsher de Success cap. 8. In the beginning of the Ghospell born againe Scult in Praesat 4. partis Medullae Thou wert in the floure of the Church borne againe In the floure of the Church Moreouer Luther tom 1. in dis fol. 410. calleth his doctrine A doctrine repayred in this age And Praefat. ad Galat. tom 5. fol. 270. sayth In these later tymes the holesome knowledge of Christ was againe resuscitated Iames Andrewes lib. cont Hosium pag. 1 The Lord by the Ministery of Luther hath resuscitated the doctrine of the Ghospell And pag. 349 Repaired Among our men after the doctrine of the Ghospell was resuscitated Kenice Praefat. in lib. de vnione hypostat Resuscitated It is now three score yeares since the ancient serpent raised againe the heresy of Berengarius for to oppresse as they say in the hlade the doctrine of the Ghospell then first restored by Luthers Ministery Ghospell in the blade Caluin l. de Coena cap. 10 This controuersie began betweene them who were the chiefest captaines in restoring the doctrine of the ghospell and bringing it backe as it were when it was lost Restored Lib. de libero arbit pag. 147. The purity of the Ghospell was restored by Luthers labour especially Et epist ad Ducem Somerseti God would haue me to be one of those by whose labour he restored this tyme the sincere doctrine of the Ghospell Danaeus in method scripturae pag. 400 There are 54. years past since that tyme that the pure light and doctrine of the Ghospell was first restored to the world Apol. Eccles Angl. part pag. 64. It is no new thing though at this day the religion of Christ be entertained with despits and cheks being but lately restored and as it were comming vp againe a new Ibid. cap. 17. Our desire was to haue the temple of the Lord restored a new Iezier de bello Euchar. fol. 72 Euen from the beginning of the restored Euangelicall light M. Bancroft in his Suruey cap. 8. In this later age of the world it hath pleased God to restore vs the light of the Ghospell And M. Alenson in praef contro 4. Whitakeri After the restauration of the Ghospell And many more as we see in the chapter following call their ghospell restored Religion By which it may appeare that D. Andrewes Respons ad Apol. Bellarm cap. 1. did vntruly deny that their men call their fayth a restored fayth But whiles he denyeth that their men termeth it so he clearely sheweth what those meane who terme it so to wit that they meane a religion borne or framed a new according to the very substance thereof And in truth what els could they meane by so many termes and so often repeated of a religion greene in the blade borne againe rising againe resuscitated renewing reuiuing recalled repaired brought backe againe restored but a religion substantiall produced instituted and founded a new 3. Thirdly this is proued because they write that in the tyme of Luther of Melancthon of Zuinglius of the Anabaptists and such others was the beginning the very beginning the first beginning the originall the entrance the cradle the dawning the new rising of their Church and religion as appeareth in the aforesayd testimonies of Luther Melancthon Besoldus Kemnicius Musculus Gualter Peter Martyr Danaeus Vsserius Gezler And besides Luther in cap. 3. Genes tom 6. fol. 33. hath these words In the beginning of the Ghopell Carolostadius c. Georgius Fabritius lib. 8. Orig. Saxon. pag. 13. God would that true and holesome doctrine should haue her beginning in the vniuersity of VVittemberg Caluin epist ad Montis belgardenses col 590. Protestācy had its beginning in Wittēberg edit 1617 In this our age the ghospel did slow out of the church of VVittemberg Brentius Praetat lib. Andreae contra Hosium Did not we all in the beginning of the reuealed ghos●ell with one mouth dispro●e your Popish impietyes And in Recognit pag. 327 They cannot deny that euen from the beginning of the reborne ghospell the Zuinglians c. And I. de Maiest Christi pag. 109 Euen from the beginning of the reuealed ghospell Melancthon c. Wittē●ergenses in Resur Orthodox● consensu pag. 22. Luther recāted some things which in the beginning of the reborne doctrine of the ghospell he graunted to the Papists Lobechius disput 12. Straight after the beginning of the shining truth in the yeare 1520. c. Pappus defens 1 cont Sturmium pag. 19. Thou saydst that there were no such Theses published since the beginning of re●●gion I shew thee the contrary that Luther and Philip held the ●●me Sleidan prefat histor The beginning of Protestan●y was slender and almost contemptible and one only Luther ●●re the brunt of all the world Zanchius lib. de perseue●at 192 Anabaptists in the beginning of Protestātisme In the beginning of the Ghospell the sect of Anabaptists ●●ose Caluin epist 63 If in the first beginning of the church ●ising againe this example of tyranny doth now peep what will 〈◊〉 shortly And epist ●78 In the beginning of the ghospell ●●rne againe Epist 269. The beginnings of the kingdome of Christ euery where in our ages were almost base and contemp●●ble Respons ad Sadoset p. 133 New rysing After the new rising of be ghospell Pl●ssie de Eccles cap. 11. VVhat shall we thinke ●at the new starre anno 1572. did signify but the new birth of ●hrist on earth by preaching of the word And he addeth New birth ●●at as Christ first borne put the Idols oracles to s●●nce so borne againe he hath made the Popish miracles to vanish Scultete part 1. Medullae in Irenaeo cap. 9. The dawning In this age the dawning of the Euangelicall truth hath shined a new vnto vs. Zuinglius lib. de Prouid tom 2. fol 352 The Lantgraue laboureth that the infancy of Religion be piously nourished The infācy And Gesner in Bibliotheca sayth Luther did happily set forward the infancy of Religion The Alogy of the Church of England part 2. c. 2. diuis 1. writeth that Anabaptists and Libertynes haue beene stirring in the world euer since the ghospell did first spring M. Powel de Antichristo c. 32. How many wars haue beene since the light of the ghospell arose the Heluetian the Protestant warre c. Vsserius I. de Success Eccl. c. 8. At the beginning of the ghospall borne againe Thomas Bilney c. M. Bale cont 8. cap. 68. speaking of the beginning of protestancy calleth it The rising of the new Hierusalem Horne in his harbour Second birth The second birth of Christ And Brocard in cap. 2. Apocal the second comming of Christ But surely if the yeare 1520. were straight after the beginning of Protestancy If Luther Second comming Melancthon Zuinglius the Anabaptists and such like were from the beginning at the beginning and straight after the Rising of Protestancy If the dissention amongst Protestants