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A44930 Munster and Abingdon, or, The open rebellion there [brace] and [brace] unhappy tumult here (bred in the same wombe) that from Sleidans Comm. L. 10. [brace] [brace] this from eye and eare witnesses : with marginal notes of Mvncer and Mahomet, faithfully communicated to English readers, in a booke and postscript, for a seasonable caution to the British nation and a serious check to rash and giddy spirits / by W.H. Hughes, William, fl. 1665-1683. 1657 (1657) Wing H3344; ESTC R39005 45,813 124

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mouse As for their parts when they complaine of hard measure that their nakednesse is so taken notice of and withall acquit themselves of the imputation of immodesty so too themselves uncover it in publique view we are content to stand obliged for giving better satisfaction to them Meane while having but once enquired what else should meane this querulous and unreasonably whining spirit save to lay low with those tame soules they deale with blindfold for an open eye sees in it nothing else but very chaffe the reputation of our Magistrates who give such hardest measure and to raise their owne who quietly put it up and added that if ever those worthies Heb. 11. to looke no further suffered but at and yet complained after such a rate I le never trust mine eyes againe We will hearken unto what comes next §. 7. Then whether Truth and conscience do not suffer somewhat more than meere restraint 2 Falsehood I meane flat banishment at the hands but of too many passages in that Paper could I be heard I would beseech themselves well to consider To take the testimonies but of two or three enough to make a valid proofe if they speake home to the point in hand if not I must professe they are Barbarians unto me or mute as fishes For instance First where they call it now a day of their sore calamity In notorious misreports of their-owne and elsewhere amplified as t is well knowne by words of heaviest weight and saddest import contempt reproach persecutions c. But is the matter thus indeede Or is it possible themselves alone of all the world should see t is so What are those pressures lying on them that fetch such sighes and groanes from their very hearts againe If we go round the Nation and aske their Neighbours in every tything who can acquaint us with them May we not Reader must we not say unto them as the Apostle did to others who is he that will harme you if ye be followers of what is good Are not their liberties their Properties ascertained to them by as good a title as any other persons whatsoever Yea by as good a title as unto the Present Government it selfe I meane the Instrument Who doth not know that theirs and its must live and dye together unlesse themselves lay violent hands on either before the time And are they not in possession of them Ah worst ingratitude to the hand of mercy that puts sweete for bitter and bitter for sweete that nicknames light darknesse and darknesse light good evill and evill good And can a gracious soule forget or slight the bitter word against that evill frame of spirit Isay 5.20 All that is said or possibly can be whereof I am aware which whether heavier than the dust of the ballance is quickly tryed comes but to this some very few of their freinds are kept in Prison And must their freinds if one should aske them of all the world alone be lawlesse Is this the liberty contended for to put that also that they speake what they please do what they list and no man dare to call them to account Or if once more yet Authority shall make so bold and with their freinds for preservation of the whole as to command the paring of a nayle or cutting of a corne is all then gone to wrack immediately The tender usage of that very small and inconsiderable number if now at all a number under restraint is just so far their miscarriages duly measured from laying ground of halfe those clamours gone abroad about it that it irresistably obligeth unto gratitude all ingenuous spirits Sympathizing with them He that heares any thing without his owne doore cannot be ignorant that nothing lesse than flat defiance of Authority with us brought them where they are A lesson sure enough nere taught them by the blessed spirit Rom. 13-1 whose language is let every soule be subject to the higher powers because they are the Ordinance of God §. 8. Nor doth it serve the turne Sions present condition specially only to call it now a day of their owne calamity but Sion also must be intituled to that complaint Sions tribulation so the subscription to the first epistle hath it Is Sion only among themselves Let any shew me how that phrase will fairely beare another sense There is then but little Truth in that I thinke all other men will say and lesser love me thinkes I may but that alas t is no such newes to find it so with them Or if we straine their Sion that there may be roome for other all Saints else besides themselves within these Lands to shelter under it t is still as much an Alien unto Truth as formerly Had indeed the Lord caused the wayes of Sion to mourne because none came to her Solemne Assemblies had the Lord abhorred his Sanctuary that his voyce from thence were no more heard had the Lord given her walls into the hand of her Enemy that shee must hold her tongue and not make mention of the name of Lord. VVere this or worse the case of the Sion here with us who of her sons but his eye must needs affect his heart unto a dolefull lamentation for and with her But whilst our eyes behold our teachers and see the beauty of their feet that bring glad tydings whilst we sit under our vines and fig-trees none making us afraid Whilst Kings are nursing fathers to us and Queenes our nursing mothers as here 't is thus with Sion yet and somewhat better adored be that grace from whence t is so it cannot sinke into our thoughts but as her heart is filled with joy and mouth with laughter hereupon so her complaints will find some fitter matter to spend themselves upon most likely that untoward frame of spirit that doth not duly prize and make a just improvement of those signall mercies injoyed by her §. 9. I shall passe by their frontispeece implicite accommodation of the 3 of Malachy and 15 verse unto our times and discharge the second parties claime upon the hearing only of one evidence more given in The grosse untruth in pleading not guilty under such apparent misbehaviour in one halfe line in their last page And thus it sayes Little against any was spoke or done at the meeting But where is now the soft and tender Conscience that will not beare false witnesse and dareth thus deliberately in the face of heaven and earth and by so many hands how few soever were the heads about composing right hearts for certaine herein being fewest of all to cast up in print so vast a bill of venomed provocations into very ciphers All was but litle say they but what that litle was it seemes they have more wit at least than tell A little truly of their little Reader thou mayst expect to heare anon Meane while I would aske themselves Is this the part of faithfull Historians but no more of that doth
you but at the last reach but to liberty in Gods worship you should sit downe as at your journeyes end This O this the very darling of our hearts and life of soules the speech then went would make amends and over measure to sighes and groanes to prayers and teares to coyne and blood adventured for it And now the treasure is landed with Interest for its stay so long and both injoyed not yet to be contented nay to cry out all 's lost and ship wracked whom doth not this amaze who can unriddle it Say yee had something we know not of to stop our mouthes withall will it serve to silence Providence also What think ye Sirs when Egypt is left the wildernesse over the Sea passed the Egyptians dead upon the shoare yea the land of promise viewed already and ready to be entred on if the people now prompted by an unhappy faction will be complaining still as if they were at their brickes and lash if Moses and Aaron the instruments of their deliverance must be kicked off with scorne for all their service if through their sides by mutinous murmures and seditious practises the face of heaven be flowen against and the whole bundle of deare bought mercies quite unravelled to the very end of the bottome what think ye if the Lord distast this course and declare from heaven against the Abettors of it in a dreadfull posture will such a doctrine learne us nothing in the Application Could there be nothing said in their behalfe who serve Christ Jesus in his Gospell publickly but that you might adde farther to your present work of letting fly whole quivers of arrowes even bitter words against them without distinction notwithstanding their bespeaking you in the Apostles language where is the blessednesse you sometime spake of for I beare you record that if it had been possible you would have plucked out your eyes and given them us Are we therefore become your Enemies because we tell you the truth I say but that you might adde farther oh most sad endeavours to fulfill the prophecy John 16.2 He that killeth you shall think he doth God service Yet Sirs to raise your selves upon the ruines of your other Brethren for these you will not take into the number or both to fall as footstooles to a worser third besides the riotous wasting such a stock of pretious mercies and making all profession a hissing and a by-word unto scorners cannot me thinks but be of dismall consideration to your owne retired thoughts Whether the face of things now carrying on amongst you look not this way too wishly who is it almost but can resolve it oh that your selves would timely look to it §. 16. For what you talke of enough at randome truly Old principles are apostatized from Consideration of their Objections 1 Old principles departed from and If humane frailties in your supposed Adversaries although our Rulers must have hard measure no benefit of Clergy at your hands if the blessing upon Sem and Japhet when Ham was cursed Gen. 9. be not at all regarded if the weapons of the Ancient Church pretended to by none more then your selves in former daies Prayers and Teares must be quite throwne downe as never more to be taken up yet at the least be coole a little whilst I aske you Will not all principles and engagements spoken of be easily in your owne sense resolved into this one PROMOTING SIONS INTEREST I am confident you do admit it Then further tell me Is not encouragement of Gods people in their worshiping of him according to their different light I appeale unto your selves according to what you hither to have spoke and wrote most eminently the life and soule of SIONS INTEREST I take this also granted And I beseech you now if taking breath a little you put us to the proofe that this is as the apple of the eye unto our present Governours do ye not bethink your selves make question whether fire be hot or which comes to one doubt of the Suns being up at noone All other principalls engaged to from whence you say departure is made when once you make the world acquainted with them till when I hope your charity must excuse a non-attendance on them if they prove such indeed as can find their Register amongst the rest of kin to Sion I think a private person may undertake either to shew them swallowed up as rivers in this Sea or craving leave in the states behalfe to promise a seasonable retrivement of them Meane while 't would well become us private persons to look to our exemplar who made me Judge and move within our proper sphere by minding of that worke our calling doth cut out unto us §. 17. And for the tenour of all your moanes 2 Christs visible Raigne neglected Christs raigne is not regarded For my part I must tell you it hath beene oftentimes refreshment unto me the rather I confesse for yours and some other angry peoples sakes that I see just cause even at this day to pronounce it after David The Lord doth reigne let the earth rejoyce and the I sles bee glad thereof As for the visible kingdome whereof you are in travaile in the expectation at least you may be told that It is of later date I meane as to your common taking notice of it than those Engagements spoken of as revolted from and so were not in view when they were entred It lies upon you therefore to acknowledge the dealing is not faire to raise your level for it on that ground making complaint of being false if I mistake not to what was scarcely thought on much lesse engaged to Besides I hope your selves allow that many eminent soules in grace Whereof many godly doubt not cleare therein although not simply contradicting it are yet as heartily desirous as your selves both of their Masters exaltation and their owne most neare injoyment of him who consequently did it appeare his mind could bid as welcome to it though it may be to their costs in some respects as others seeme to do and therefore do not deserve such weight and measure at your hands or tongues as yet they find But you may know it hath no litle influence on them to suspende about it when besides what ever may be said as to the season §. 18. First Why 1 t is as bright as day to them that the designe wherewith the Gospell is filled up to the very top lookes at a kingdome not consisting in meates and drink in worldly power the like sufficiently pleasing doubtlesse to the fleshly part but of another nature Righteousnesse and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost To make us Kings and Priests not among men but unto God triumphers through believing one Hell and curse and sin not by a carnall weapon over all men else though nere so godly if not complyers with our perswasion And then remember 2 their Lord according to the prophecy of him that