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A03885 A summary of controuersies Wherein are briefly treated the cheefe questions of diuinity, now a dayes in dispute betweene Catholikes & protestants: especially out of the holy Scripture. Written in Latin by the R. Father, Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by I.L. of the same Society. The I. tome, deuided into two controuersies.; Controversiarum epitomes. English Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 13998; ESTC S104309 167,262 458

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in_o itself_o and_o this_o have_v the_o scripture_n from_o her_o principal_a author_n to_o wit_n god_n himself_o the_o other_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o we_o and_o this_o it_o have_v from_o the_o church_n as_o we_o have_v 19_o cap_n 13._o praece_v §._o 17._o &_o 19_o prove_v before_o out_o of_o caluin_n and_o beza_n for_o we_o know_v not_o otherwise_o that_o god_n be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o scripture_n with_o any_o certainty_n of_o faith_n but_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n 9_o and_o that_o which_o we_o have_v say_v of_o the_o scripture_n may_v also_o be_v evident_o see_v in_o christ_n our_o lord_n who_o be_v above_o the_o scripture_n for_o christ_n be_v force_v to_o prove_v his_o authority_n by_o miracle_n that_o it_o may_v the_o better_o be_v know_v and_o allow_v of_o man_n for_o otherwise_o the_o jew_n have_v not_o be_v bind_v to_o have_v admit_v his_o authority_n joan._n joan._n 15._o v._n 14._o s._n aug._n tom._n 9_o tract_n 91._o in_o joan._n hereupon_o say_v christ_n speak_v unto_o his_o disciple_n of_o the_o jew_n if_o i_o have_v not_o do_v among_o they_o work_v that_o no_o other_o man_n have_v do_v they_o shall_v not_o have_v sin_v that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o infidelity_n not_o believe_v in_o christ_n a●_n s._n augustine_n very_o well_o expound_v and_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v unto_o the_o jew_n 17._o joan._n 10._o v._n 17._o he_o say_v if_o i_o do_v not_o the_o work_n of_o my_o father_n believe_v i_o not_o 10._o but_o if_o the_o authority_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v most_o excellent_a in_o itself_o and_o immediate_o from_o god_n stand_v in_o need_n of_o those_o mean_n whereby_o it_o may_v become_v know_v unto_o we_o to_o the_o end_n it_o may_v oblige_v we_o to_o believe_v it_o much_o more_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n will_v stand_v in_o need_n
of_o it_o albeit_o it_o be_v immediate_o from_o god_n to_o the_o end_n it_o be_v make_v manifest_a unto_o us._n for_o otherwise_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o authority_n thereof_o but_o this_o be_v not_o do_v now_o by_o miracle_n nor_o by_o the_o immediate_a or_o extraordinary_a revelation_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o rest_v that_o we_o say_v it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o ordinary_a &_o mediate_a revelation_n of_o god_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o the_o church_n or_o rather_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o speak_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o church_n chap._n ix_o that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o there_o arise_v daily_o so_o many_o disputation_n and_o controversye_n of_o matter_n of_o faith_n none_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o there_o must_v necessary_o be_v some_o judge_n appoint_v who_o must_v define_v end_n and_o determine_v such_o controversye_n for_o otherwise_o there_o will_v never_o be_v a_o end_n of_o such_o matter_n but_o it_o be_v a_o great_a difficulty_n who_o must_v be_v this_o judge_n the_o sectary_n of_o this_o time_n almost_o all_o refuse_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o see_v very_o well_o that_o if_o they_o admit_v she_o as_o judge_v all_o their_o error_n will_v be_v quite_o overthrow_v wherefore_o some_o of_o they_o affirm_v that_o the_o sole_a scripture_n must_v be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n and_o this_o be_v the_o first_o doctrine_n of_o our_o adversary_n to_o wit_n luther_n &_o zuinglius_fw-la 2._o but_o our_o late_a adversary_n when_o they_o consider_v that_o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a thing_n to_o make_v the_o scripture_n be_v a_o thing_n 1._o cap._n 18._o controu_fw-fr 1._o without_o life_n the_o judge_n as_o we_o have_v declare_v before_o they_o fly_v unto_o their_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o they_o will_v have_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n but_o lest_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o attribute_v too_o much_o unto_o themselves_o they_o endeavour_v to_o colour_v their_o private_a spirit_n with_o the_o famous_a title_n or_o name_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n affirm_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v the_o only_a judge_n of_o all_o controversye_n 3._o wherefore_o there_o be_v three_o thing_n here_o to_o be_v prove_v first_o that_o the_o scripture_n can_v be_v judge_n second_o that_o neither_o the_o private_a spirit_n can_v be_v it_o three_o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v the_o only_a and_o most_o true_a judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n 4._o as_o concern_v the_o first_o whereas_o our_o adunersary_n every_o where_n teach_v that_o nothing_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v which_o be_v not_o express_o to_o be_v find_v in_o holy_a scripture_n it_o be_v a_o strange_a thing_n that_o they_o will_v persuade_v man_n that_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n whereas_o we_o read_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o any_o place_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 5._o yea_o even_o in_o these_o testimony_n be_v only_o attribute_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o judgement_n search_v the_o scripture_n say_v christ_n 19_o joan._n 5._o v._n 19_o and_o the_o same_o be_v they_o that_o give_v testimony_n of_o i_o and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o law_n of_o god_n be_v often_o call_v in_o scripture_n in_o the_o hebrew_n phrase_n eda_n or_o eduth_n or_o tenda_n that_o be_v to_o say_v 118._o psalm_n 118._o a_o testimony_n yea_o even_o in_o one_o psalm_n it_o be_v call_v above_o twenty_o time_n by_o that_o name_n 6._o moreover_o in_o the_o prophet_n isay_n in_o the_o same_o place_n false_o cite_v by_o our_o adversary_n that_o they_o may_v prove_v thereby_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n it_o be_v call_v a_o witness_n or_o a_o testimony_n and_o not_o a_o judge_n nay_o rather_o to_o the_o 20._o isa_n 8._o v._n 20._o law_n say_v the_o prophet_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n 7._o furthermore_o one_o thing_n be_v more_o absurd_a that_o in_o matter_n of_o such_o moment_n to_o appoint_v such_o a_o deaf_a and_o dumb_a judge_n and_o who_o may_v also_o be_v corrupt_v for_o both_o party_n and_o who_o sentence_n either_o party_n use_v indifferent_o but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v such_o a_o judge_n for_o it_o can_v neither_o speak_v nor_o hear_v and_o so_o in_o like_a manner_n do_v all_o heretic_n ancient_a and_o modern_a also_o use_v the_o scripture_n last_o almost_o all_o our_o adversary_n do_v see_v how_o absurd_a these_o thing_n be_v and_o therefore_o they_o fly_v unto_o their_o own_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o they_o call_v the_o holy_a ghost_n wherefore_o let_v we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o second_o point_n 8._o as_o concern_v therefore_o this_o private_a spirit_n first_o there_o be_v none_o who_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o chief_a judge_n of_o all_o controversye_n but_o the_o question_n be_v where_o this_o holy_a spirit_n be_v to_o be_v find_v and_o in_o who_o it_o remain_v 9_o moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v not_o remain_v or_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o book_n lest_o peradventure_o our_o adversary_n shall_v send_v we_o to_o their_o bibles_n but_o in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o believer_n now_o we_o ask_v whether_o this_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o be_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o believer_n or_o rather_o in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n we_o have_v our_o desire_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o private_a man_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o no_o private_a person_n can_v err_v in_o his_o own_o judgement_n see_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v err_v in_o his_o judgement_n he●re_o true_o we_o seek_v for_o that_o judge_n which_o can_v err_v 10._o furthermore_o every_o private_a man_n shall_v be_v come_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n if_o every_o such_o private_a person_n have_v this_o spirit_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n whereupon_o there_o will_v ensue_v a_o great_a confusion_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 11._o beside_o that_o if_o every_o believer_n be_v the_o judge_n they_o our_o adversary_n must_v needs_o admit_v the_o ancient_a father_n as_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n the_o which_o they_o will_v never_o do_v for_o they_o dare_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v true_a believer_n why_o therefore_o do_v they_o attribute_v unto_o themselves_o that_o which_o they_o so_o u●hemently_o deny_v to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n 21._o moreover_o if_o every_o believer_n can_v err_v in_o his_o judgement_n much_o less_o can_v a_o great_a many_o such_o err_v and_o least_o of_o all_o can_v the_o church_n of_o all_o believer_n err_v wherefore_o whatsoever_o our_o adversary_n say_v they_o will_v be_v force_v to_o confess_v and_o grant_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o judge_n as_o he_o remain_v in_o the_o whole_a church_n speak_v and_o judge_v by_o the_o mouth_n thereof_o and_o in_o this_o manner_n even_o out_o of_o our_o adversary_n doctrine_n we_o gather_v by_o a_o necessary_a consequence_n our_o opinion_n 13._o last_o that_o which_o they_o affirm_v that_o the_o private_a spirit_n of_o every_o particular_a person_n be_v judge_n be_v thereby_o declare_v to_o be_v false_a that_o they_o themselves_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v no_o private_a man_n which_o at_o some_o time_n can_v err_v in_o his_o indgment_n but_o here_o we_o inquire_v for_o a_o judge_n which_o can_v err_v for_o otherwise_o in_o matter_n of_o such_o moment_n and_o of_o which_o our_o eternal_a salvation_n depend_v we_o shall_v dangerous_o be_v force_v to_o have_v recourse_n to_o a_o erroneous_a judge_n who_o judgement_n be_v variable_a uncertain_a deceitful_a and_o oftentimes_o manifest_o false_a 14._o but_o now_o as_o concern_v the_o three_o point_n that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n we_o prove_v by_o these_o argument_n first_o the_o church_n have_v all_o the_o property_n of_o a_o fit_a judge_n for_o first_o she_o have_v a_o exact_a knowledge_n the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v teach_v you_o say_v christ_n all_o truth_n 15._o second_o the_o church_n can_v be_v corrupt_v by_o any_o gift_n or_o prayer_n for_o she_o be_v as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v the_o pillar_n and_o ground_n of_o truth_n 16._o three_o the_o church_n hear_v 15._o 2._o tim._n 3._o v._n 15._o speak_v give_v her_o judgement_n and_o examine_v the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n and_o father_n as_o experience_n itself_o teach_v us._n 17._o four_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o stand_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n who_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n say_v our_o lord_n let_v 17._o matt._n 18._o v._n 17._o he_o be_v unto_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o
confession_n for_o we_o do_v not_o separate_v s._n peter_n from_o his_o faith_n or_o from_o the_o public_a profession_n thereof_o but_o we_o only_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o faith_n and_o confession_n of_o s._n peter_n alone_o and_o of_o no_o other_o 22._o and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o same_o holy_a father_n who_o in_o some_o place_n affirm_v that_o the_o church_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o faith_n and_o confession_n of_o s._n peter_n do_v else_o where_o 21._o s._n epiph._n contra_fw-la haeres_fw-la 50._o quae_fw-la est_fw-la catharorun_n chryson_v hon_fw-fr 55._o in_o mat._n s._n aug._n tom_n 1._o l._n retractat_fw-la cap._n 21._o plain_o testify_v that_o it_o be_v build_v upon_o s._n peter_n himself_o yea_o even_o in_o the_o same_o place_n they_o sometime_o say_v that_o it_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o faith_n or_o confession_n of_o s._n peter_n and_o sometime_o upon_o s._n peter_n himself_o as_o appear_v by_o s._n epiphanius_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n 23._o we_o know_v also_o very_o well_o that_o s._n augustine_n in_o some_o place_n understand_v by_o this_o word_n rock_n christ_n himself_o but_o he_o do_v not_o reject_v the_o common_a exposition_n of_o other_o holy_a father_n yea_o he_o confirm_v the_o same_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o s._n ambrose_n and_o he_o testify_v himself_o that_o he_o hold_v that_o opinion_n in_o other_o place_n for_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v reprehend_v but_o rather_o to_o be_v great_o commend_v who_o attribute_v many_o literal_a sense_n to_o the_o same_o word_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n so_o that_o they_o do_v not_o reject_v and_o condemn_v the_o common_a and_o approve_a sense_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o we_o have_v already_o declare_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n seq_fw-la contro_fw-la 1._o c._n 15._o §._o 7._o &_o seq_fw-la 24._o true_o even_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o confess_v that_o the_o foresaid_a exposition_n of_o s._n augustine_n be_v both_o force_v &_o harsh_a in_o itself_o for_o see_v that_o neither_o in_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n which_o go_v before_o nor_o in_o the_o confession_n itself_o of_o s._n peter_n there_o be_v any_o mention_n make_v of_o a_o rock_n the_o particle_n this_o can_v demonstrate_v that_o which_o be_v not_o in_o 18._o calu._n ad_fw-la haec_fw-la verba_fw-la s._n mat._n in_o sva_fw-la harmonia_fw-la beza_n inc_fw-la 16._o mat._n ad_fw-la v._o 18._o the_o whole_a sentence_n but_o violent_o wherefore_o our_o adversary_n leave_v this_o exposition_n of_o s._n augustine_n they_o understand_v by_o the_o rock_n either_o the_o faith_n of_o s._n peter_n as_o caluin_n do_v or_o with_o beza_n his_o confession_n and_o they_o both_o confess_v that_o the_o word_n cepha_n in_o the_o syriac_a tongue_n be_v the_o same_o in_o both_o place_n when_o christ_n say_v thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n and_o the_o greek_a word_n also_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v only_o differ_v in_o their_o termination_n and_o not_o in_o substance_n 25._o but_o albeit_o caluin_n commend_v citato_fw-la calun_n loco_fw-la citato_fw-la that_o derivation_n of_o the_o word_n peter_n which_o s._n augustine_n set_v down_o to_o wit_n that_o petrus_n be_v name_v of_o petr●_n as_o christianus_n of_o christo_n yet_o citato_fw-la beza_n loco_fw-la citato_fw-la beza_n write_v more_o true_o that_o christ_n speak_v in_o the_o syriake_n tongue_n use_v no_o derivation_n of_o name_n but_o say_v cepha_n in_o both_o place_n our_o adversary_n therefore_o do_v not_o well_o to_o object_v s._n augustine_n exposition_n against_o we_o the_o which_o they_o themselves_o acknowledge_v not_o to_o be_v the_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n chap._n vii_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o chief_a and_o head_n of_o all_o other_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o even_o by_o the_o confession_n of_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o the_o ancient_a holy_a father_n do_v not_o only_o with_o uniform_a consent_n affirm_v the_o roman_a to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v the_o chief_a &_o most_o principal_a church_n of_o all_o in_o so_o much_o that_o they_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o whole_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o many_o other_o thing_n they_o do_v write_v in_o the_o praise_n and_o commendation_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o of_o the_o pope_n the_o supreme_a pastor_n thereof_o as_o may_v evident_o be_v see_v in_o catholic_a writer_n 7._o bell._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont_n c._n 13._o &_o seq_fw-la co●c_fw-la tun_n 1_o l._n 7._o art_n 5._o 6._o &_o 7._o which_o be_v relate_v by_o bellarmine_n and_o coccius_n we_o for_o brevity_n sake_n will_v only_o allege_v two_o of_o the_o holy_a father_n by_o who_o it_o may_v easy_o be_v gather_v what_o be_v the_o judgement_n and_o opinion_n of_o the_o rest_n concern_v this_o matter_n 2._o the_o first_o be_v that_o most_o ancient_a holy_a s._n irenaeus_n who_o live_v even_o in_o the_o apostle_n 3._o s._n iren._n l._n ●_o adverse_a haeres_fw-la cap._n 3._o tyme._n because_o say_v he_o it_o will_v be_v too_o long_o to_o recount_v in_o this_o volume_n the_o succession_n of_o all_o church_n we_o propose_v the_o tradition_n and_o ●ayth_n of_o the_o great_a most_o ancient_a and_o best_a know_a church_n found_v by_o the_o two_o glorious_a apostle_n peter_n and_o paul_n which_o by_o preach_v and_o succession_n of_o bishop_n have_v descend_v even_o from_o the_o apostle_n to_o we_o do_v confound_v all_o those_o who_o by_o any_o mean_n gather_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o that_o they_o shall_v either_o by_o their_o own_o foolish_a fancy_n or_o by_o vain_a glory_n or_o by_o the_o great_a blindness_n of_o their_o understanding_n or_o follow_v any_o bad_a opinion_n for_o all_o other_o church_n that_o be_v to_o say_v all_o faithful_a true_a believer_n threughout_v the_o whole_a world_n must_v needs_o come_v unto_o this_o church_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o most_o potent_a principality_n thereof_o hitherto_o be_v the_o word_n of_o s._n irenaeus_n and_o afterward_o he_o recount_v the_o succession_n of_o all_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n till_o joan._n s._n aug._n tom._n 9_o ●_o tract_n 56._o in_o euang._n s._n joan._n his_o tyme._n 3._o the_o other_o be_v s._n augustine_n who_o our_o adversary_n also_o esteem_v very_o much_o who_o know_v not_o say_v he_o that_o bless_a s._n peter_n be_v the_o chief_a and_o head_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n thus_o donatistarun_n s._n august_n tom._n 2._o epist_n 162._o ad_fw-la episc_n donatistarun_n s._n augustine_n of_o s._n peter_n but_o speak_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n he_o say_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v always_o flourish_v the_o chief_a power_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o apostolical_a chair_n if_o we_o believe_v s._n augustine_n nothing_o be_v more_o clear_a and_o manifest_a 4._o but_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o cite_v any_o more_o place_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n for_o even_o our_o adversary_n confess_v that_o this_o be_v the_o common_a opinion_n of_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n council_n bucerus_n in_o praeparator_n ad_fw-la council_n concern_v this_o matter_n thus_o write_v martin_n bucer_n sometime_o caluin_v master_n and_o chief_a patron_n not_o only_o in_o his_o own_o name_n but_o also_o of_o all_o the_o lutheran_n we_o confess_v plain_o with_o all_o ●ur_n heart_n say_v he_o that_o among_o the_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o church_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v always_o obtain_v the_o chief_a authority_n and_o supremacy_n above_o all_o other_o because_o it_o have_v the_o chair_n of_o s._n peter_n and_o who_o bishop_n have_v always_o be_v account_v the_o successor_n of_o s._n peter_n thus_o bucer_n 5._o and_o caluin_n albeit_o he_o inveigh_v bitter_o against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n yet_o constrain_v to_o speak_v truth_n write_v in_o 16._o calu._n l._n 4._o inst_z it_z c._n ●_o sect_n 16._o this_o manner_n i_o will_v first_o say_v this_o aforehand_o that_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o the_o old_a writer_n do_v every_o where_o give_v great_a honour_n to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o do_v speak_v reverent_o of_o it_o and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o say_v thus_o for_o that_o same_o opinion_n which_o i_o wot_v not_o how_o be_v grow_v in_o force_n that_o it_o be_v found_v 1._o calu._n l._n 4._o instit_fw-la c._n 7._o sect_n 11._o verba_fw-la istornm_fw-la actor_n cicantur_fw-la ab_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la luth._o in_o l._n colloq_fw-la al●ing_v extant_a etiam_fw-la apud_fw-la sand._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr ●ustif_a cap._n 1._o de_fw-fr smalcald_n articul_fw-la &_o philippi_n subscript_n habetur_fw-la ibid._n à_fw-la facult_a wittemb_n edito_fw-la contra_fw-la g●so_fw-la peucerun_v a_o 1597._o in_o princ_fw-la c._n 6._o fol._n 60._o p._n 1._o and_o ordain_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o peter_n much_o avail_v to_o