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A71279 A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes. R. H., 1609-1678. 1688 (1688) Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619 186,755 234

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answerer_n and_o other_o insist_v so_o eager_o and_o obstinate_o on_o the_o authority_n of_o sense_n grow_v if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o artifice_n perhaps_o from_o their_o take_v the_o maxim_n nothing_o be_v in_o the_o intellect_n which_o be_v not_o before_o in_o the_o sense_n absolute_o as_o if_o the_o only_a conveyer_n of_o notice_n to_o the_o mind_n be_v the_o sense_n or_o no_o thought_n have_v its_o birth_n there_o without_o a_o external_a promter_n whenas_o to_o omit_v the_o ill_a consequence_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o late_a there_o be_v other_o mean_n of_o acquaint_v the_o intellect_n without_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o sense_n as_o by_o good_a and_o bad_a spirit_n etc._n etc._n now_o these_o either_o convey_v always_o the_o same_o notice_n as_o the_o sense_n or_o they_o do_v not_o if_o they_o do_v than_o the_o mind_n must_v ever_o judge_v with_o the_o sense_n which_o be_v against_o experience_n if_o they_o do_v not_o how_o come_v the_o intellect_n to_o determine_v against_o 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word_n of_o institution_n be_v in_o that_o book_n the_o church_n tell_v he_o be_v the_o gospel_n and_o neither_o reason_n nor_o revelation_n counterven_a this_o notice_n a_o papist_n judge_n with_o certainty_n according_a to_o the_o deposition_n of_o the_o sense_n but_o when_o a_o papist_n desire_v to_o proceed_v further_o and_o will_v understand_v not_o only_o that_o there_o be_v such_o word_n but_o also_o what_o be_v that_o very_a meaning_n not_o which_o may_v be_v put_v upon_o they_o wherein_o his_o sense_n and_o reason_n may_v assist_v he_o but_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n intend_v and_o the_o church_n hold_v than_o he_o rely_v not_o on_o his_o sense_n or_o reason_n only_o because_o he_o know_v the_o sentiment_n of_o man_n to_o be_v very_o different_a as_o among_o themselves_o so_o from_o the_o church_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v and_o if_o he_o may_v rely_v on_o his_o own_o so_o may_v other_o and_o consequent_o collect_v opposite_a truth_n from_o their_o discordant_a conception_n wherefore_o he_o resort_v to_o that_o hand_n which_o reach_v out_o to_o he_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n as_o god_n word_n to_o give_v he_o also_o their_o true_a meaning_n which_o he_o receive_v and_o profess_v without_o demur_n or_o fear_n and_o thus_o papist_n arrive_v at_o all_o saving-truth_n thus_o they_o attain_v unanimity_n and_o learn_v not_o only_o to_o think_v but_o speak_v the_o same_o thing_n whilst_o the_o mind_n and_o language_n of_o all_o sectary_n who_o pretend_v to_o follow_v sense_n and_o reason_n only_o in_o their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n be_v at_o war_n and_o babilonish_n for_o private_a spirit_n be_v many_o and_o be_v dissenter_n but_o the_o church_n the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v but_o one_o and_o at_o unity_n with_o itself_o and_o thus_o i_o suppose_v not_o our_o but_o the_o minister_n culpable_a ignorance_n be_v apparent_a ibid._n l_o 28._o but_o let_v we_o quit_v this_o reflection_n etc._n etc._n content_a if_o he_o will_v not_o hasten_v to_o new_a untruth_n where_o be_v it_o confess_v that_o we_o have_v neither_o command_n nor_o example_n in_o holy_a scripture_n for_o adore_v our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n if_o there_o he_o any_o command_n for_o adore_v our_o lord_n at_o all_o there_o be_v for_o adore_v he_o in_o the_o eucharist_n for_o once_o adorable_a and_o he_o be_v always_o and_o everywhere_o adorable_a in_o what_o condition_n or_o circumstance_n soever_o and_o special_a injunction_n or_o instance_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n to_o warrant_n or_o oblige_v we_o to_o adore_v st._n austin_n know_v there_o be_v a_o command_n or_o he_o will_v not_o have_v say_v in_o psal_n 98._o peccemus_fw-la non_fw-la adorando_fw-la again_o though_o we_o confess_v that_o defect_n may_v possible_o happen_v yet_o who_o grant_v they_o to_o be_v infinite_a or_o difficult_o avoidable_a be_v it_o not_o rather_o difficult_a consider_v the_o caution_n of_o the_o church_n that_o any_o defect_n shall_v chance_v which_o be_v destructive_a to_o the_o eucharist_n can_v we_o not_o have_v a_o moral_a certainty_n the_o priest_n have_v the_o order_n to_o which_o he_o pretend_v do_v not_o our_o sense_n inform_v we_o as_o to_o both_o the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o serious_a application_n of_o the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o as_o to_o the_o intention_n it_o be_v true_a it_o be_v deem_v necessary_a will_n the_o minister_n profess_v that_o none_o be_v needful_a to_o the_o performance_n of_o a_o religious_a action_n but_o what_o degree_n or_o sort_n of_o intention_n be_v a_o question_n in_o the_o school_n some_o divine_n require_v more_o some_o less_o of_o the_o late_a kind_n if_o he_o please_v the_o reader_n may_v view_v what_o contenson_n write_v of_o it_o theolog._n mentis_fw-la &_o cordis_n l._n 11._o p._n 1._o diss_n 2._o append._n append._n 2._o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v undoubtling_o to_o be_v assert_v say_v this_o modern_a divine_a that_o a_o intention_n of_o serious_o perform_v the_o external_n rite_n among_o christian_n count_v religious_a suffice_v for_o the_o validity_n of_o a_o sacrament_n and_o that_o be_v observe_v no_o retention_n nor_o perverseness_n of_o the_o minister_n intention_n do_v void_a a_o sacrament_n this_o position_n he_o confirm_v by_o many_o authority_n and_o conclude_v they_o with_o that_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n sess_n 14._o cap._n 6._o can._n 9_o where_o that_o holy_a synod_n declare_v the_o sacrament_n not_o to_o be_v perform_v if_o a_o priest_n act_n in_o jest_n etc._n etc._n infer_v thereupon_o that_o the_o council_n understand_v by_o a_o intention_n of_o do_v what_o the_o church_n do_v not_o as_o this_o minister_n of_o do_v what_o the_o church_n intend_v but_o a_o do_v with_o external_a seriousness_n what_o the_o church_n prescribe_v which_o inference_n he_o enforce_v by_o cardinal_n palavicini_n reflection_n on_o that_o passage_n of_o the_o council_n par_fw-fr 2._o l._n 12._o c._n 10._o from_o these_o last_o word_n any_o one_o read_v they_o may_v conjecture_v that_o the_o opinion_n of_o catherine_n and_o other_o divine_n think_v a_o will_n in_o the_o minister_n to_o act_v serious_o suffice_v for_o and_o that_o only_a jest_a which_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n may_v discover_v do_v obstruct_v the_o accomplishment_n of_o a_o sacrament_n be_v not_o expunge_v according_a to_o this_o doctrine_n then_o the_o consecration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n do_v not_o depend_v on_o the_o priest_n believe_v transubstantiation_n or_o secret_o intend_v to_o consecrate_v etc._n etc._n but_o only_o on_o a_o external_a intention_n to_o do_v serious_o what_o the_o church_n injoin_v which_o be_v very_o discernible_a to_o the_o attendant_n by_o the_o priest_n exterior_a action_n and_o deportment_n how_o many_o therefore_o of_o the_o answerer_n danger_n and_o defect_n be_v blow_v away_o and_o if_o adoration_n may_v at_o any_o time_n be_v pay_v to_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n it_o may_v ordinary_o be_v so_o without_o any_o scruple_n by_o catholic_n appendix_n ii_o animadversion_n upon_o the_o reply_n to_o the_o two_o discourse_n concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o our_o b._n saviour_n in_o the_o holy_a eucharist_n some_o time_n ago_o be_v print_v in_o oxford_n two_o discourse_n the_o one_o concern_v the_o alteration_n in_o the_o church-service_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n the_o second_o concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n the_o design_n whereof_o be_v to_o show_v the_o incertitude_n and_o inconstancy_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o her_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n whence_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o none_o can_v trust_v or_o rely_v upon_o her_o authority_n nor_o safe_o either_o believe_v or_o practice_v according_a to_o her_o direction_n of_o both_o these_o the_o author_n take_v these_o two_o article_n as_o a_o manifest_a and_o sufficient_a instance_n but_o because_o there_o be_v nothing_o so_o true_a against_o which_o
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to_o be_v believe_v not_o for_o the_o matter_n thereof_o as_o if_o the_o actual_a knowledge_n and_o faith_n thereof_o be_v absolute_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n thus_o a_o few_o point_n only_o some_o think_v not_o all_o those_o of_o the_o creed_n be_v necessary_a and_o nothing_o thus_o necessary_a at_o any_o time_n that_o be_v not_o always_o so_o but_o necessary_a ex_fw-la accidenti_fw-la because_o we_o have_v a_o sufficient_a proposal_n thereof_o that_o it_o be_v a_o divine_a truth_n not_o that_o the_o error_n in_o or_o ignorance_n of_o such_o a_o point_n even_o after_o such_o proposal_n do_v derogate_v from_o our_o have_v absolute_o necessary_a faith_n any_o more_o than_o it_o do_v before_o nor_o that_o in_o disbelieve_v or_o dissent_v from_o it_o we_o be_v more_o defective_a in_o the_o necessary_o salvifical_a principle_n of_o divine_a truth_n but_o that_o we_o be_v defective_a in_o our_o obedience_n to_o and_o acceptance_n of_o divine_a truth_n make_v know_v to_o we_o by_o the_o church_n as_o some_o way_n conducible_a to_o christian_a edification_n to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n or_o to_o some_o other_o good_a end_n therefore_o the_o duty_n she_o require_v to_o many_o of_o her_o decision_n be_v not_o so_o much_o a_o actual_a know_v of_o they_o as_o the_o not_o deny_v oppose_a contradict_v they_o when_o make_v know_v to_o we_o therefore_o for_o example_n shall_v any_o one_o after_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o tridentine_a council_n thereupon_o hold_v john_n and_o our_o saviour_n baptism_n to_o have_v in_o every_o thing_n the_o same_o virtue_n and_o effect_n such_o a_o one_o whilst_o not_o know_v this_o definition_n of_o the_o council_n be_v excusable_a in_o his_o error_n suppose_v it_o be_v not_o contract_v from_o any_o careless_a neglect_n or_o if_o it_o be_v so_o contract_v yet_o he_o be_v not_o guilty_a thereby_o of_o a_o point_n of_o infidelity_n as_o concern_v necessary_a faith_n but_o only_o of_o the_o sin_n of_o negligence_n neither_o when_o the_o church_n require_v the_o belief_n of_o transubstantiation_n hence_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o she_o say_v the_o belief_n thereof_o be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o that_o she_o think_v it_o fit_a for_o some_o good_a end_n of_o christian_a edification_n not_o to_o be_v oppose_v and_o therefore_o suarez_n his_o confess_v that_o to_o believe_v transubstantiation_n be_v not_o simple_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n quote_v by_o archbishop_n laud_n p._n 287._o methinks_v well_o consist_v with_o the_o church_n determine_v it_o though_o the_o archbishop_n there_o think_v according_a to_o the_o roman_a principle_n it_o be_v otherwise_o and_o as_o bellarmin_n say_v there_o be_v many_o thing_n in_o scripture_n which_o though_o they_o be_v necessario_fw-la credenda_fw-la quia_fw-la scripta_fw-la sunt_fw-la yet_o be_v not_o scripta_fw-la quia_fw-la necessario_fw-la credenda_fw-la so_o may_v i_o say_v of_o church_n definition_n neither_o upon_o this_o may_v we_o collect_v that_o she_o be_v tyrannical_a in_o abridge_n the_o liberty_n of_o man_n judgement_n if_o the_o belief_n of_o the_o point_n she_o determin_n be_v not_o necessary_a for_o salvation_n but_o only_o if_o no_o way_n at_o all_o beneficial_a to_o be_v know_v for_o the_o wilful_a oppose_v of_o which_o if_o we_o afterward_o incur_v she_o anathema_n which_o exclude_v from_o heaven_n thus_o we_o miss_v of_o salvation_n not_o for_o want_v of_o necessary_a faith_n but_o obedience_n she_o anathematise_v we_o not_o for_o a_o error_n but_o a_o vice_n i._n e._n a_o causeless_o disturb_v her_o peace_n and_o resist_v her_o authority_n shall_v any_o one_o after_o the_o apostolical_a synod_n and_o decree_n act._n 15._o some_o of_o which_o be_v about_o matter_n of_o small_a account_n yet_o not_o without_o good_a reason_n command_v for_o a_o season_n at_o least_o to_o be_v observe_v have_v resist_v their_o injunction_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o blood_n and_o thing_n strangle_v hold_v it_o still_o lawful_a notwithstanding_o such_o prohibition_n to_o eat_v those_o thing_n such_o a_o one_o doubtless_o notwithstanding_o the_o levity_n of_o the_o matter_n will_v just_o have_v incur_v the_o church_n censure_n and_o without_o repentance_n be_v liable_a to_o damnation_n not_o for_o want_v of_o any_o faith_n necessary_a thereto_o but_o of_o due_a submission_n and_o obedience_n to_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o just_a authority_n authority_n li_n 5._o last_o concern_v our_o obedience_n to_o these_o council_n in_o such_o their_o decision_n decision_n obedience_n due_a to_o such_o decision_n see_v what_o i_o have_v say_v in_o my_o note_n concern_v that_o subject_n and_o in_o those_o of_o the_o obligation_n of_o not_o act_v against_o conscience_n where_o i_o think_v it_o be_v sufficient_o evidence_v that_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o submit_v at_o least_o to_o all_o such_o point_n where_o we_o be_v not_o certain_a of_o the_o contrary_a as_o especial_o in_o this_o by_o most-confessed_n ineffable_a mystery_n we_o can_v little_o pretend_v to_o it_o consider_v what_o have_v be_v say_v in_o this_o paper_n but_o indeed_o such_o a_o submission_n will_v be_v find_v either_o a_o duty_n to_o all_o the_o church_n decision_n or_o to_o none_o for_o if_o we_o obey_v only_o so_o many_o of_o her_o canon_n as_o we_o in_o our_o judgement_n think_v truth_n reject_v the_o rest_n our_o submission_n be_v not_o to_o her_o authority_n decide_v but_o a_o yield_n to_o the_o verisimility_n of_o the_o thing_n decide_v again_o such_o a_o submission_n be_v either_o a_o duty_n to_o all_o council_n i_o mean_v which_o be_v in_o their_o authority_n equal_a or_o to_o none_o upon_o the_o same_o reason_n for_o for_o we_o to_o judge_v first_o of_o the_o orthodoxness_n of_o a_o council_n which_o be_v appoint_v to_o direct_v we_o what_o be_v orthodox_n what_o a_o preposterous_a thing_n be_v it_o and_o if_o we_o go_v to_o this_o play_n once_o to_o receive_v only_o so_o many_o council_n as_o we_o like_v of_o their_o doctrine_n 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this_o reply_n to_o this_o minister_n answer_n to_o dr._n tailor_n be_v testimony_n will_v serve_v for_o what_o be_v return_v pag._n 49._o 50._o to_o calvin_n and_o beza_n authority_n if_o other_o place_n contradictory_n can_v be_v pick_v out_o of_o their_o write_n yet_o that_o will_v not_o manifest_v that_o they_o in_o the_o sentence_n cite_v intend_v not_o a_o substantial_a presence_n but_o where_o do_v calvin_n say_v solum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la non_fw-la corpus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la the_o proposition_n contradictory_n to_o neque_fw-la tantum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la be_v it_o not_o of_o this_o proposition_n that_o archbishop_n lawd_n say_v nor_o can_v that_o place_n by_o any_o art_n be_v shift_v or_o by_o any_o violence_n wrest_v from_o calvin_n true_a meaning_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o and_o at_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n the_o archbishop_n be_v a_o puny_a in_o evasion_n and_o of_o a_o feeble_a spirit_n for_o what_o his_o acuteness_n can_v not_o contrive_v and_o his_o courage_n dare_v not_o attempt_v this_o minister_n have_v discover_v and_o adventure_v to_o perform_v even_o to_o shift_v off_o and_o wrest_v this_o place_n by_o some_o that_o say_v nothing_o different_a and_o by_o other_o that_o say_v nothing_o contradictory_n pag._n 69._o l._n 24._o and_o now_o i_o be_o afraid_a his_o cause_n will_v be_v desperate_a unless_o mr._n thorndike_n can_v support_v it_o the_o same_o course_n be_v take_v to_o answer_v mr._n thorndike_n as_o be_v follow_v to_o dismiss_v most_o of_o the_o precedent_n viz._n endeavour_v to_o oppose_v mr._n thorndike_n to_o himself_o this_o practice_n how_o useful_a and_o how_o frequent_o use_v soever_o it_o be_v by_o the_o answerer_n as_o wondrous_a sufficient_a yet_o be_v reject_v by_o he_o in_o parallel_a case_n and_o he_o take_v that_o liberty_n he_o disallow_v to_o such_o as_o have_v equal_a right_a to_o it_o with_o himself_o yet_o how_o will_v this_o rare_a 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