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A01009 Purgatories triumph ouer hell maugre the barking of Cerberus in Syr Edvvard Hobyes Counter-snarle. Described in a letter to the sayd knight, from I.R. authour of the answere vnto the Protestants pulpit babels. Floyd, John, 1572-1649.; Jenison, Robert, 1584?-1652, attributed name. 1613 (1613) STC 11114; ESTC S115113 123,366 230

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