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A00887 The life and gate of Christianitie entreating of the sacrament of baptisme, deuided into five bookes. Contayning the effects, the mater, the forme, the baptiser, and the partie baptised: with the reasons and use of all the auntient rites and ceremonies. ... Composed, gathered, and written by O.A. ... Almond, Oliver. 1614 (1614) STC 11; ESTC S100511 119,637 234

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in the Conference had at Poissi by a minister of Mets whether the Infant Baptized by the midwife ought againe to be Baptized by the Minister Beza cont Hessu pag. 533. Beza in the name of all present at that Conference answered That a great number of the Ministerie had alreadie iudged and that with his consent that this Baptisme of the Midwife was of no effect Yet forasmuch sayeth he that the Contrarie opinion is not without ground of reason it is fitte and verie conuenient that the matter be remitted to the Resolution and determination of the Congregation of Geneua and Zurike Whervpon worthelie sayeth Florimond the Catholikes of France iested at their Conclusion in this their Conference Florim li. 8. c. 11. ane could not but maruell at the madnesse of these kind of people who could not decide this difficultie by Scripture by the written word wherevpon they would seeme wholie to relie in decideing matters of Controuersie but were now forced to referre themselues and the subiect to the Censure and Iudgment of men that is a fewe Ministers of Geneua and Zurike gathered togeather in a corner of the world And in this and the like cases stike not to skorne and cotemne the decisions resolutions and indgments of generall Councells lawfully gathered of the most vertuous Concil Later Floren. Trid. the wisest and best learned throughout the Christiā world and no doubt but according to the promise of Christ they were guided by the Holy Ghost As for example 1. That Children ought to be Baptized in their infancie 2. That the Baptisme of Lay-men is allowable and auaylable in case of necessitie in absence of the Priest 3. That the midwife in extreamities in danger of death may Baptize The resolution and determination of these cases haue bene decided by generall Councells and haue bene deliuered vnto vs as a Tradition from the Apostles as a practise of the primitiue Church as the sentence of antiquitie descending in the Church throughout all ages vntill this day And nowe to be condemned and censured by a fewe vnlearned ministers of Zurike and Geneua I say no more but leaue this Gentle Reader to thy best thoughts and considerations CAP. 7. VVhether an Heretike an Infidell or a Iewe may Baptize and if they doe VVhether it be auailable I Ioyne these three togeather and first I put an Heretike for that heresie is a kind of infidelitie or misbeleefe of Christ of his ministeries his Sacraments and his Church Or heresie is An obstinate resisting or striuing against the true faith of Christ his ministers his Sacraments or his Church S. Thomas sayeth More grieuous Tho. 2. 2. q. 10. art 6. or greater is the infidelitie of heretikes then of Pagan or Iewe. For the Heretike in that he is a Christian hath promised true faith and fidelitie to Christ to his Sacraments and Church which neither Iewes nor Pagan did It was the opinion of Saint Cyprian or rather his errour That Baptisme giuen out of the Church by Heretikes was no Baptisme nor auaylable Concerning which point S. Stephen Pope and Martyr writte to S. Cyprian That there should be no Innouation in the Church but that the auncient Tradition should be obserued forbidding those who were Baptized of Heretikes to be Baptized againe Whervpon this question was much agitated handled and disputed in his tyme and by the Church concluded That if the Heretikes did Baptize in the name of the most Blessed Trinitie the Father the Sonne and the Holy Ghost with intention to doe and effect that which Christ instituted that their Baptisme was auailable and those by them Baptized were not to be Baptized againe Aug. li. 10. de Baptis con Donat c. 1. Idem ep 48. ad Don. Aug. li. 5. de Baptis con Donat. ca. 20. Aug. li. 1. cont Cresco And S. Augustine confuted this errour in many bookes his reasons were for that Baptisme was Vnitas orbis One through out the whole world And that Heretikes agreed generallie with Catholikes in this poynt And that it was not the goodnes of the Ministres that caused this Sacrament but Christ the principall cause therfore in necessitie auaylable of whom soeuer it was giuen And in his fifth booke of Baptisme against the Donatists he proueth that God doth giue this Sacrament by euill persons because they doe not minister this Sacrament Sua potestate sed virtute Dei By their owne power but by the vertue of Christ And therfore he concludeth Although there be no certaine example brought forth out of Scripture to proue that Baptisme of Heretikes is true Baptisme yet because the whole Church hath decreed it we obserue sayeth he the truth of Scripture for that the Scripture commendeth her authoritie and telleth vs that the Church being guided by the Holy Ghost can not erre in her decrees and deciding of doubtfull questions Therfore we doubt not of the Baptisme of heretikes so long as they obserue the true forme instituted by Christ and commended by his Church Some difficultie there was in the tyme of the Arrian heresie for that they held Christ not to be equall with his Father and consequentlie not God but man Yet it was concluded that their Baptisme was auaylable so long as they kepte the forme of Baptisme instituted by Christ and commaunded by his Church Niceph. lib. 16. ca. 15. Nicephorus Ca●ixtus recordeth in his historie of one Deutrius ●n Arrian Bishop Baptizing at Constantinople one who was called Barbas and not obseruing ●he auncient forme of the Church but altered and changed it according to his hereticall humour saying Baptizetur Barbas in nomine Patris per Filium in Spiritu sancto Barbas be he Baptized In the name of the Fater through the Sonne in the holy Ghost the water presentlie dried vp and vanished a way out of the font At which miracle Barbas being moued ranne forth and published the facte where you may see how God by miracle condemned the Arrian heretike wen he did not obserue the forme of the Church Concil Nicen. can 19. Gratiā 1. q. 1. can Si quis cōnfugerit Grego li. 9. epistol epis 61. Idē de cons dist 4. cap hi. vero Wherfore those Heretikes who keepe not the forme of Baptisme by Christ instituted as the Paulianists Cataphrigians not beleeuing aright of Christ nor the Holy Ghost the Councell of Nice appoynted that those should be Baptized againe Statutum est eos omnino rebaptizari we decree and appoint in any case those to Baptized againe Yf any of the fore named heretikes flie for helpe vnto the Catholike Church Read Gratian. And the same hath S. Gregorie of the Cataphriges and Bonosians who did not Baptise in the name of the Trinitie because they thought the Father only to be God and the Sonne and the Holy Ghost to be but men I will conclude with this Corrolarium or addition Although in case of necessitie an Heretike may Baptise and that the Baptisme of