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A05217 A reflection of certaine authors that are pretended to disauow the churches infallibilitie in her generall decrees of faith. By F.E. Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? 1635 (1635) STC 15351; ESTC S106826 115,644 246

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authoritatis_fw-la veritate_fw-la firmatum_fw-la establish_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o truth_n and_o truth_n of_o authority_n and_o contrariwise_o of_o the_o other_o that_o there_o be_v multi_fw-la paucorum_fw-la fraud_n decepti_fw-la many_o deceive_v by_o the_o fraud_n or_o circumuention_n of_o a_o few_o whereby_o heretical_a impiety_n endeavour_v to_o weaken_v what_o the_o catholic_a father_n in_o the_o power_n of_o truth_n and_o authority_n have_v establish_v aug._n sed_fw-la nunc_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la nicenun_n nec_fw-la tu_fw-la debes_fw-la ariminense_n tanquam_fw-la praeiudicaturus_fw-la proffer_v concilium_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la huius_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nec_fw-la tu_fw-la illius_fw-la detineris_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la non_fw-la quorumque_fw-la proprijs_fw-la sed_fw-la utrisque_fw-la communibus_fw-la testibus_fw-la &c_n &c_n baro_n p._n 337._o ex_fw-la aug._n have_v i_o say_v mention_v these_o two_o counsel_n he_o forbear_v to_o urge_v his_o 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africa_n verbum_fw-la illud_fw-la domini_fw-la per_fw-la ●licaenum_fw-la concilium_fw-la manet_fw-la in_o aeter●um_fw-la as_o for_o the_o comparison_n which_o he_o ●akes_v with_o scripture_n it_o ibidem_fw-la it_o catholici_fw-la scripturam_fw-la sacram_fw-la non_fw-la subijciunt_fw-la sed_fw-la anteponunt_fw-la concilijs_fw-la neque_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la ulla_fw-la controversia_fw-la es●_n bellarm._n li._n 2._o de_fw-la concilijs_fw-la c._n 12._o quod_fw-la si_fw-la interdum_fw-la aliq●_n catholici_fw-la dicunt_fw-la scripturam_fw-la pendere_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sive_fw-la 〈◊〉_d concilio_n non_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la quoad_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la &_o secundum_fw-la se_fw-la sed_fw-la quoad_fw-la explicationem_fw-la &_o quoad_fw-la nos_fw-la ibidem_fw-la hurt_v ●ot_n he_o that_o say_v the_o scripture_n where_o it_o be_v plain_a and_o universallie_o ●eceaved_v be_v more_o powerful_a than_o a_o council_n or_o that_o the_o eternal_a vertie_n open_o reveal_v as_o it_o be_v to_o 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to_o find_v it_o out_o and_o that_o certain_a too_o and_o doubtless_o he_o that_o see_v in_o scripture_n that_o which_o he_o know_v the_o whole_a symbolical_a church_n that_o which_o hold_v out_o the_o book_n wherein_o ●he_n read_v it_o do_v believe_v be_v more_o powerfullie_o move_v to_o give_v assent_n than_o he_o that_o hear_v a_o council_n only_o and_o our_o assent_n be_v more_o prove_v when_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n all_o propose_v the_o same_o then_o when_o one_o alone_o do_v avouch_v it_o though_o one_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n by_o himself_o be_v sufficient_a and_o infallible_a §._o xii_o vincentius_n lirinensis_n will_v have_v church-authoritie_n rely_v upon_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n as_o certain_a and_o undoubted_a how_o a_o man_n be_v to_o carry_v himself_o when_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v question_v the_o way_n to_o find_v the_o catholic_a sense_n general_n counsel_n infallible_a in_o their_o decree_n and_o those_o be_v heretic_n that_o contradict_v and_o 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