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A03883 A treatise concerning the ground of faith. VVritten in Latin, by the reuerend Father Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English, by I.L. of the same Society. The second part of the second controuersy; Controversiarum epitomes. English. Selections Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1614 (1614) STC 13997A; ESTC S118149 27,760 72

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faith_n we_o do_v not_o understand_v by_o the_o church_n the_o shoulder_n or_o body_n of_o they_o who_o be_v in_o she_o but_o their_o authority_n doctrine_n and_o preach_v for_o by_o these_o thing_n faith_n be_v engender_v and_o as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v faith_n be_v by_o hear_v 15._o but_o whensoever_o we_o treat_v of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n we_o do_v not_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o want_v true_a faith_n which_o be_v deaf_a dumb_a or_o foolish_a and_o which_o also_o either_o neglect_v or_o not_o understand_v the_o word_n of_o god_n or_o scripture_n for_o such_o a_o church_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ._n but_o we_o speak_v of_o that_o which_o believe_v which_o speak_v which_o preach_v the_o pure_a word_n of_o god_n which_o keep_v and_o expound_v the_o scripture_n most_o faithful_o and_o which_o fit_o apply_v they_o in_o sermon_n &_o exhortation_n among_o we_o therefore_o all_o these_o word_n have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o signification_n the_o church_n the_o faith_n of_o the_o church_n the_o preach_v and_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n the_o word_n of_o god_n preach_v by_o the_o church_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n propose_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o church_n and_o we_o understand_v all_o these_o thing_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n when_o we_o say_v that_o she_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n for_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v either_o property_n action_n or_o office_n of_o the_o church_n which_o can_v be_v separate_v from_o she_o 16._o wherefore_o our_o adversary_n do_v err_v exceed_o when_o they_o separate_v every_o one_o of_o these_o from_o the_o church_n and_o oppose_v or_o object_v it_o against_o she_o as_o though_o it_o be_v a_o quite_o distinct_a thing_n from_o she_o nay_o of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n they_o make_v she_o the_o synagogue_n of_o satan_n therefore_o the_o apostolical_a &_o prophetical_a doctrine_n must_v not_o be_v separate_v and_o make_v opposite_a unto_o the_o church_n as_o calvin_n do_v see_v that_o it_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n calvin_n therefore_o dispute_v as_o if_o one_o shall_v make_v this_o argument_n a_o man_n without_o his_o soul_n neither_o see_v speak_v nor_o understandeth_v therefore_o a_o man_n neither_o see_v speak_v nor_o understand_v 17._o but_o peradventure_o some_o will_v say_v we_o have_v say_v a_o little_a before_o that_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n and_o now_o we_o 7._o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n whereof_o the_o one_o seem_v to_o be_v contrary_a unto_o the_o other_o i_o answer_v that_o here_o there_o be_v no_o contrariety_n for_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o faith_n the_o one_o be_v the_o particular_a faith_n of_o every_o christian_a whereby_o together_o with_o hope_n and_o charity_n every_o one_o be_v justify_v the_o other_o be_v the_o general_a and_o common_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o particular_a faith_n of_o each_o one_o rely_v upon_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n upon_o the_o faith_n preach_v and_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o she_o herself_o rely_v upon_o the_o general_a faith_n and_o profession_n and_o preach_a thereof_o in_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n when_o therefore_o we_o say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n we_o speak_v of_o the_o particular_a faith_n of_o every_o christian._n but_o when_o we_o say_v that_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n we_o speak_v of_o the_o general_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 18._o there_o be_v other_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n but_o we_o may_v easy_o answer_v ul●…_n thereunto_o by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v already_o say_v the_o which_o melchior_n canus_n and_o bellarmine_n do_v prosecute_v and_o handle_v more_o at_o large_a unto_o who_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o they_o be_v borrow_v of_o the_o anabaptist_n &_o libertine_n whereby_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n themselves_o be_v no_o less_o diminish_v and_o infringe_v then_o that_o of_o the_o church_n chap._n vii_o that_o the_o church_n do_v not_o only_o give_v a_o bare_a testimony_n but_o also_o authority_n to_o the_o scripture_n this_o matter_n be_v here_o brief_o to_o be_v examine_v that_o it_o may_v more_o clear_o be_v understand_v how_o necessary_a the_o church_n approbation_n be_v to_o the_o establish_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o to_o the_o end_n that_o it_o may_v more_o clear_o appear_v whereof_o we_o dispute_v in_o this_o place_n it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v that_o see_v that_o our_o adversary_n can_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o church_n affoard_v some_o testimony_n to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n they_o affirm_v that_o this_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v only_o a_o bare_a testimony_n and_o not_o a_o testimony_n of_o authority_n 2._o for_o there_o be_v two_o kind_n of_o testimony_n the_o one_o be_v call_v a_o testimony_n of_o authority_n because_o upon_o it_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n testify_v depend_v it_o be_v call_v also_o a_o necessary_a testimony_n because_o without_o it_o the_o thing_n in_o question_n be_v not_o sufficient_o testify_v the_o other_o be_v call_v a_o bare_a testimony_n and_o not_o necessary_a that_o be_v to_o say_v when_o such_o a_o testimony_n be_v not_o so_o necessary_a because_o the_o matter_n be_v otherwise_o 7_o sufficient_o testify_v such_o a_o testimony_n be_v that_o which_o s._n john_n baptist_n give_v of_o christ._n for_o christ_n have_v sufficient_a testimony_n beside_o 3._o of_o the_o former_a testimony_n of_o authority_n christ_n say_v but_o i_o do_v not_o receive_v my_o 36._o testimony_n from_o man_n to_o wit_n the_o testimony_n of_o authority_n &_o necessary_a for_o of_o the_o bare_a testimony_n he_o have_v speak_v a_o little_a before_o you_o send_v unto_o john_n and_o he_o have_v give_v testimony_n to_o truth_n but_o this_o be_v a_o bare_a testimony_n wherefore_o 5._o christ_n a_o little_a after_o say_v i_o have_v a_o great_a testimony_n than_o john_n for_o the_o work_n which_o the_o father_n have_v give_v i_o to_o profit_v they_o the_o very_a work_n which_o i_o do_v give_v testimony_n of_o i_o that_o the_o father_n have_v send_v i_o and_o the_o father_n that_o send_v i_o himself_o have_v give_v testimony_n of_o i_o all_o which_o say_v christ_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o authority_n our_o adversary_n therefore_o say_v that_o the_o church_n give_v only_o a_o bare_a testimony_n to_o the_o scripture_n as_o s._n john_n give_v to_o christ_n but_o she_o give_v not_o a_o necessary_a testimony_n or_o that_o of_o authority_n 4._o but_o that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o church_n be_v altogether_o necessary_a as_o that_o 5._o whereof_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n depend_v be_v very_o manifest_a by_o that_o which_o be_v say_v in_o the_o former_a chapter_n and_o by_o that_o also_o which_o we_o allege_v in_o the_o first_o disputation_n where_o we_o show_v that_o there_o be_v now_o no_o firm_a testimony_n whereby_o we_o may_v know_v certain_o which_o book_n be_v canonical_a and_o which_o not_o beside_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n for_o now_o neither_o be_v the_o miracle_n wrought_v which_o god_n do_v in_o time_n past_a neither_o do_v god_n speak_v immediate_o by_o himself_o as_o he_o speak_v in_o the_o baptism_n and_o transfiguration_n of_o christ._n wherefore_o there_o remain_v only_o the_o three_o ordinary_a manner_n whereby_o god_n speak_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o church_n the_o church_n therefore_o do_v not_o give_v a_o bare_a testimony_n only_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n but_o the_o testimony_n of_o authority_n to_o wit_n that_o whereof_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n depend_v as_o concern_v we_o and_o our_o knowledge_n 5._o moreover_o if_o the_o doctrine_n of_o s._n paul_n stand_v need_v of_o the_o church_n approbation_n as_o we_o have_v already_o prove_v out_o of_o controu_n the_o scripture_n much_o more_o s._n luke_n gospel_n who_o be_v only_a s._n paul_n scholar_n stand_v need_v thereof_o as_o tertullian_n witness_v especial_o because_o s._n luke_n receive_v not_o those_o thing_n 2._o which_o he_o write_v by_o revelation_n from_o god_n as_o s._n paul_n do_v but_o by_o tradition_n from_o other_o as_o he_o himself_o write_v and_o the_o same_o also_o may_v be_v say_v of_o s._n mark_v who_o gospel_n as_o s._n hierome_n write_v the_o apostle_n s_o peter_n approve_v and_o by_o his_o authority_n he_o command_v it_o shall_v be_v read_v in_o the_o church_n 6._o but_o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o some_o say_v that_o the_o authority_n of_o approve_v the_o canonical_a book_n be_v only_o resident_a in_o the_o apostle_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o the_o ensue_a church_n have_v be_v not_o for_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o
approve_v all_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n for_o if_o they_o have_v do_v so_o there_o have_v remain_v no_o doubt_n of_o many_o of_o they_o for_o many_o age_n after_o the_o death_n of_o the_o apostle_n even_o among_o catholic_a good_a man_n as_o we_o have_v note_v before_o but_o many_o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n time_n by_o the_o general_a counsel_n and_o decree_n of_o the_o church_n some_o 1_o book_n be_v approve_v whereof_o there_o be_v before_o some_o doubt_n 7._o yea_o more_o than_o six_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n there_o be_v many_o catholic_n who_o do_v not_o receive_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o 16._o apocalypse_n as_o appear_v out_o of_o the_o four_o toletane_v council_n 8._o and_o that_o which_o be_v more_o before_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o be_v many_o catholic_n who_o thought_n that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o doubt_v of_o all_o the_o book_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o which_o in_o time_n past_a saint_n hierome_n seem_v to_o judge_v as_o doubtful_a as_o be_v the_o epistle_n of_o s._n james_n the_o second_o of_o s._n peter_n the_o second_o and_o three_o of_o s._n john_n the_o epistle_n of_o s._n jude_n the_o epistle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n and_o the_o apocalypse_n and_o if_o it_o have_v not_o be_v for_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n or_o some_o other_o new_a decree_n of_o the_o church_n none_o will_v as_o yet_o condemn_v they_o as_o heretic_n who_o call_v those_o book_n in_o question_n 9_o by_o that_o which_o have_v be_v say_v it_o appear_v manifest_o that_o the_o canonical_a scripture_n receive_v their_o strength_n and_o authority_n not_o from_o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o rather_o from_o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o church_n succeed_v yea_o even_o of_o this_o present_a church_n to_o wit_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n 10._o last_o albeit_o the_o present_a church_n shall_v not_o have_v the_o authority_n of_o approve_v scripture_n as_o these_o man_n say_v yet_o notwithstanding_o for_o three_o other_o reason_n the_o authority_n &_o testimony_n of_o this_o present_a church_n be_v necessary_a first_o because_o we_o know_v not_o certain_o what_o book_n the_o primitive_a church_n have_v either_o write_v or_o not_o write_v approve_a or_o reject_v but_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o present_a church_n second_o neither_o do_v we_o know_v whether_o those_o book_n come_v uncorrupted_a unto_o we_o or_o no_o but_o by_o the_o same_o testimony_n three_o because_o we_o can_v otherwise_o know_v which_o be_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o those_o book_n chap._n viii_o the_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n be_v confute_v the_o first_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n be_v the_o church_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o by_o the_o word_n also_o of_o god_n it_o be_v engender_v nourish_v and_o govern_v and_o it_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o to_o the_o word_n of_o her_o spouse_n i_o answer_v our_o adversary_n do_v in_o a_o manner_n confound_v the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n with_o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o general_a the_o which_o they_o shall_v not_o do_v for_o there_o be_v three_o sort_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o wit_n that_o which_o be_v believe_v preach_v and_o write_v the_o believe_v word_n be_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o church_n that_o which_o be_v preach_v be_v in_o her_o mouth_n and_o that_o which_o be_v write_v be_v in_o her_o book_n of_o the_o believe_v and_o preach_v word_n the_o apostle_n say_v the_o word_n be_v in_o thy_o mouth_n and_o in_o thy_o hart_n this_o be_v the_o word_n of_o faith_n which_o we_o preach_v we_o 8._o confess_v that_o in_o the_o believe_v and_o preach_v word_n the_o church_n be_v found_v because_o by_o the_o same_o it_o be_v engender_v nourish_v ●…_n and_o govern_v and_o that_o unto_o this_o word_n it_o be_v subject_a and_o obedient_a as_o unto_o the_o word_n of_o her_o spouse_n for_o indeed_o this_o kind_n of_o word_n be_v necessary_a for_o the_o church_n for_o with_o our_o hart_n say_v the_o apostle_n we_o believe_v unto_o justice_n but_o with_o the_o mouth_n confession_n be_v make_v to_o salvation_n and_o again_o how_o shall_v they_o hear_v without_o a_o preacher_n 2._o but_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o write_a word_n be_v far_o different_a for_o this_o be_v neither_o altogether_o necessary_a for_o the_o church_n see_v that_o the_o church_n be_v without_o it_o more_o than_o two_o thousand_o year_n neither_o can_v the_o write_a word_n be_v profitable_a to_o the_o church_n unless_o it_o be_v also_o right_o preach_v and_o believe_v for_o what_o do_v it_o profit_v a_o man_n to_o have_v the_o bible_n unless_o he_o right_o believe_v and_o understand_v it_o 3._o but_o the_o scripture_n whereof_o we_o now_o dispute_v do_v only_o contain_v write_v word_n but_o the_o believe_v and_o preach_v word_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o visibe_n church_n as_o the_o necessary_a and_o essential_a part_n thereof_o see_v the_o one_o be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o life_n in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o church_n the_o other_o as_o it_o be_v the_o speech_n in_o her_o mouth_n neither_o can_v they_o ever_o be_v separate_v from_o she_o according_a to_o that_o say_n and_o promise_n of_o god_n the_o word_n which_o i_o have_v put_v in_o thy_o month_n shall_v not_o u●…_n depart_v from_o thy_o mouth_n nor_o from_o the_o mouth_n of_o thy_o seed_n nor_o from_o the_o mouth_n of_o thy_o seed_n seed_n from_o hence_o forth_o for_o evermore_o 4._o wherefore_o this_o argument_n do_v prove_v the_o quite_o contrary_a for_o see_v that_o the_o write_a word_n receive_v it_o pro●…_n and_o authority_n from_o the_o right_o believe_v and_o preach_v word_n which_o be_v the_o part_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o the_o write_a word_n receive_v that_o authority_n and_o ●…ity_n from_o the_o church_n as_o that_o wherein_o only_o the_o word_n right_o preach_v and_o believe_v be_v to_o be_v find_v 5._o the_o second_o argument_n if_o the_o church_n shall_v teach_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n we_o be_v not_o to_o believe_v the_o church_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o rece●…ue_v that_o authority_n from_o the_o church_n but_o rather_o the_o church_n from_o the_o scripture_n i_o answer_v that_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o if_o the_o scripture_n shall_v contain_v any_o thing_n against_o truth_n we_o shall_v not_o also_o believe_v it_o if_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v utter_v and_o speak_v any_o lie_n we_o shall_v not_o believe_v he_o but_o these_o condition_n be_v indeed_o impossible_a and_o blasphemous_a against_o god_n wherefore_o they_o be_v not_o only_o to_o be_v admit_v but_o not_o even_o to_o be_v propose_v of_o christian_n for_o it_o be_v impossible_a that_o the_o church_n shall_v teach_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n for_o then_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v lie_v because_o he_o shall_v teach_v one_o thing_n by_o the_o church_n and_o the_o contrary_a 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