Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
truth_n authority_n church_n infallible_a 2,088 5 9.4927 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A20475 A quartron of reasons, composed by Doctor Hill, vnquartered, and prooued a quartron of follies: by Francis Dillingham, Bachelour of Diuinitie. August, in Senten ... Dillingham, Francis, d. 1625. 1603 (1603) STC 6889; ESTC S118442 90,324 122

There are 7 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

then_o upon_o that_o pope_n authority_n pope_n sixtus_n say_v james._n ●ead_a m._n james._n before_o the_o vatican_n edition_n their_o vulgar_a latin_a translation_n be_v schismatis_fw-la occasio_fw-la the_o occasion_n of_o heresy_n now_o pope_n clement_n edition_n be_v approve_v far_o differ_v from_o sixtus_n edition_n what_o certainty_n then_o have_v papist_n who_o will_v take_v the_o scripture_n now_o upon_o this_o now_o upon_o that_o pope_n warrant_n but_o i_o reduce_v your_o argument_n into_o a_o syllogism_n they_o which_o have_v no_o certain_a trial_n of_o truth_n be_v not_o the_o church_n but_o the_o protestant_n have_v no_o certain_a trial_n ergo._n i_o deny_v the_o assumption_n for_o we_o have_v the_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o infallible_a rule_n of_o truth_n our_o saviour_n christ_n vanquish_v the_o devil_n by_o the_o scripture_n the_o berean_o try_v the_o apostle_n doctrine_n by_o the_o scripture_n ●●_o lib._n 2._o denupt_v cap._n ●●_o and_o may_v not_o we_o so_o do_v s._n augustine_n write_v thus_o ista_fw-la controversia_fw-la iudicem_fw-la riquirit_n this_o controversy_n require_v a_o judge_n who_o shall_v be_v judge_n he_o answer_v christ_n judicet_fw-la christus_fw-la let_v christ_n be_v judge_n he_o do_v name_n neither_o pope_n nor_o romish_a church_n for_o as_o he_o say_v in_o another_o place_n scriptura_fw-la est_fw-la eminentissima_fw-la authoritatis_fw-la 3._o 〈◊〉_d civit._fw-la l._n 11._o c._n 3._o the_o scripture_n be_v of_o a_o most_o sovereign_a and_o peerless_a authority_n 5._o lib._n 5._o optatus_n dispute_v whether_o the_o baptize_v be_v to_o be_v rebaptise_v be_v worthy_a to_o be_v hear_v quarendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la say_v he_o aliqui_fw-la huius_fw-la controversiae_fw-la indices_fw-la si_fw-la christiani_n de_fw-fr viraque_fw-la parte_fw-la dari_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la quia_fw-la stuaijs_fw-la veritas_fw-la impeditur_fw-la de_fw-la foris_fw-la quarendus_fw-la est_fw-la index_n si_fw-la l'aga●●●_n non_fw-la potest_fw-la nosse_fw-la christiana_n secreta_fw-la si_fw-la judans_fw-la inimiens_fw-la est_fw-la christiani_n baptismatis_fw-la ergo_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la haec_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la nullum_fw-la poterit_fw-la reperiri_fw-la iudicium_fw-la de_fw-la coelo_fw-la quaerendus_fw-la sed_fw-la ut_fw-la quid_fw-la pu●samus_fw-la ad_fw-la coelum_fw-la cum_fw-la habemus_fw-la hîc_fw-la in_o euangelio_fw-la testamentum_fw-la inquam_fw-la quia_fw-la hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la recte_fw-la possunt_fw-la terrena_fw-la coelestibus_fw-la comparari_fw-la some_o judge_n for_o this_o controversy_n be_v to_o be_v fight_v for_o if_o christian_n they_o can_v be_v have_v on_o both_o side_n because_o by_o partaking_a the_o truth_n be_v hinder_v we_o must_v seek_v abroad_o for_o a_o judge_n if_o he_o be_v a_o pagan_a he_o know_v not_o christian_n secret_n if_o a_o jew_n he_o be_v a_o enemy_n to_o christian_a baptism_n in_o earth_n there_o can_v be_v find_v no_o judgement_n a_o judge_n from_o heaven_n must_v be_v require_v but_o why_o do_v we_o knock_v at_o heaven_n when_o we_o have_v in_o the_o gospel_n a_o testament_n because_o in_o this_o place_n earthly_a thing_n may_v be_v fit_o compare_v to_o heavenly_a thing_n i_o marvel_v m._n doctor_n that_o your_o vaunt_a upon_o all_o the_o father_n light_v not_o upon_o this_o father_n who_o be_v as_o you_o call_v they_o a_o plain_a calvinist_n but_o i_o return_v your_o argument_n they_o which_o have_v no_o certain_a trial_n of_o the_o truth_n be_v not_o the_o church_n but_o the_o papist_n have_v no_o certain_a trial_n of_o the_o truth_n ergo._n the_o assumption_n be_v manifest_a because_o they_o rely_v upon_o pope_n that_o may_v err_v marellinus_n sacrifice_v to_o idol_n liberius_n be_v a_o arrian_n and_o more_o than_o this_o some_o judas_n may_v creep_v into_o the_o office_n as_o your_o rhemist_n confess_v some_o pope_n they_o will_v not_o appeal_v to_o counsel_n as_o it_o it_o manifest_a by_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n and_o m._n doctor_n in_o a_o word_n what_o certainty_n have_v you_o or_o can_v you_o have_v if_o there_o happen_v to_o be_v a_o schism_n among_o the_o pope_n the_o 22._o schism_n continue_v 40._o year_n as_o it_o be_v record_v in_o fascic_n temp._n and_o until_o martin_n the_o 5._o it_o be_v not_o manifest_v who_o be_v pope_n you_o blaspheme_v the_o scripture_n turrian_n call_v they_o a_o delphian_a sword_n make_v for_o want_n the_o censure_n of_o colen_n say_v that_o it_o be_v veluti_fw-la nasus_fw-la caereus_fw-la a_o nose_n of_o wax_n o_fw-mi antichristian_a prelate_n the_o lord_n rebuke_v you_o for_o these_o your_o blasphemy_n against_o his_o holy_a bible_n what_o trial_n of_o truth_n you_o have_v i_o hope_v i_o have_v make_v plain_a to_o your_o own_o conscience_n m._n doctor_n in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o chapter_n you_o call_v we_o boat-swanes_a admit_v no_o judge_n and_o say_v we_o have_v no_o mean_n to_o rest_v until_o we_o end_v in_o atheism_n that_o this_o name_n of_o boat-swanes_a may_v return_v upon_o your_o head_n i_o pray_v you_o consider_v how_o m._n harding_n plead_v for_o your_o pope_n to_o be_v head_n of_o the_o church_n because_o the_o prophet_n hose_n prophesi_v that_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n and_o judah_n shall_v have_v one_o head_n out_o upon_o you_o antichristian_a heretic_n that_o ever_o you_o shall_v thus_o abuse_v the_o holy_a bible_n touch_v atheism_n whence_o do_v machiavelli_n spring_v caius_z constant_o avouch_v italy_n to_o be_v the_o very_a fountain_n of_o atheist_n i_o conclude_v this_o reason_n with_o the_o say_n of_o picus_n mirandula_n magna_fw-la profecto_fw-la insania_fw-la est_fw-la euangelio_fw-la non_fw-la credere_fw-la cvius_fw-la veritatem_fw-la sanguis_fw-la martyrum_fw-la clamat_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la resonant_n voces_fw-la prodigia_fw-la probant_fw-la ratio_fw-la confirmat_fw-la mundus_fw-la testatur_fw-la elementa_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la daemon_n confitentur_fw-la sed_fw-la long_a maior_fw-la insania_fw-la si_fw-la de_fw-la euangelij_fw-la veritate_fw-la non_fw-la dubitas_fw-la vivere_fw-la tamen_fw-la quasi_fw-la de_fw-la eius_fw-la falsitate_fw-la non_fw-la dubitares_fw-la it_o be_v exceed_a madness_n not_o to_o credit_v the_o gospel_n the_o truth_n whereof_o the_o blood_n of_o martyr_n do_v cry_v the_o apostolical_a word_n do_v sound_a miracle_n do_v prove_v reason_n do_v confirm_v the_o world_n do_v witness_v the_o element_n do_v utter_a the_o devil_n confess_v but_o it_o be_v far_o great_a folly_n if_o thou_o doubte_v not_o of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o gospel_n so_o to_o live_v as_o if_o thou_o make_v no_o question_n but_o it_o be_v false_a the_o twelve_o reason_n the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n de_fw-fr faece_fw-la hauris_fw-la you_o draw_v of_o your_o dregs_n m._n doctor_n when_o you_o will_v beat_v we_o down_o with_o the_o bare_a club_n of_o custom_n custom_n in_o civil_a affair_n may_v prevail_v much_o but_o in_o divinity_n it_o be_v not_o worth_a a_o rush_n except_o it_o be_v join_v with_o truth_n prudentius_n answer_v symmachus_n make_v this_o defence_n suus_fw-la cuique_fw-la mos_fw-la suus_fw-la cuique_fw-la ritus_fw-la est_fw-la every_o one_o have_v his_o manner_n and_o rite_n quid_fw-la mihi_fw-la tu_fw-la ritus_fw-la solitos_fw-la roman_n senator_n obiectas_fw-la cum_fw-la scita_fw-la patrum_fw-la populique_fw-la frequenter_a in_fw-la tabulis_fw-la placiti_fw-la sententia_fw-la flexa_fw-la novarit_fw-la nunc_fw-la etiam_fw-la quoties_fw-la solitis_fw-la decedere_fw-la prodest_fw-la praeteritosque_fw-la habitus_fw-la cultu_fw-la damnare_fw-la recenti_fw-la why_o do_v thou_o object_v unto_o i_o custom_n when_o a_o diverse_a opinion_n have_v change_v the_o decree_n of_o father_n and_o people_n now_o also_o how_o often_o do_v it_o avail_n to_o depart_v from_o custom_n and_o by_o a_o new_a manner_n to_o condemn_v the_o old_a habit_n morosa_fw-la moris_fw-la retentio_fw-la res_fw-la est_fw-la aequè_fw-la turbulenta_fw-la ac_fw-la novitas_fw-la a_o wayward_a retain_v of_o a_o custom_n be_v as_o turbulent_a a_o thing_n as_o novelty_n balsamon_n upon_o photius_n say_v that_o aequitate_fw-la exigente_fw-la mutamus_fw-la consuctudinem_fw-la 6._o tom._n 6._o when_o equity_n require_v it_o we_o change_v custom_n and_o again_o vidi_n non_fw-la scriptam_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la infirmatam_fw-la i_o have_v see_v a_o unwritten_a custom_n to_o have_v be_v infringe_v but_o say_v the_o doctor_n the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v always_o a_o infallible_a rule_n to_o direct_v and_o order_v thing_n by_o first_o the_o doctor_n beg_v that_o which_o be_v a_o question_n take_v the_o romish_a church_n to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n we_o deny_v it_o prove_v it_o before_o you_o plead_v custom_n second_o the_o church_n in_o time_n past_a do_v give_v the_o eucharist_n unto_o infant_n be_v this_o a_o infallible_a rule_n m._n doctor_n to_o give_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n unto_o child_n if_o you_o deny_v that_o the_o church_n do_v so_o you_o may_v be_v confound_v with_o infinite_a testimony_n of_o author_n augustine_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr peccato_fw-la mort_fw-fr cap._n 20._o be_v plain_a upon_o which_o place_n erasmus_n have_v make_v this_o marginal_a note_n julian._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o cont_n julian._n nunc_fw
transubstantiation_n but_o you_o have_v purge_v he_o to_o your_o perpetual_a shame_n as_o testify_v your_o index_n expurgatorius_fw-la the_o title_n be_v ut_fw-la libre_fw-la bertrami_n how_o the_o book_n of_o bertrame_n be_v amend_v may_v be_v tolerate_v but_o let_v it_o be_v grant_v that_o the_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n be_v not_o public_a for_o many_o year_n yet_o may_v there_o be_v a_o church_n for_o at_o the_o come_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n the_o pharisy_n have_v the_o government_n and_o be_v blind_a guide_n yet_o be_v there_o a_o church_n and_o a_o number_n of_o choose_a people_n as_o joseph_n marie_n simon_n and_o anna._n in_o elias_n time_n when_o religion_n be_v corrupt_v the_o lord_n have_v thousand_o which_o never_o bow_v their_o knee_n to_o baal_n but_o i_o return_v the_o argument_n largeness_n of_o dominion_n be_v a_o note_n of_o the_o church_n but_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n our_o church_n have_v largeness_n of_o dominion_n ergo._n second_o the_o doctor_n fear_v lest_o our_o church_n shall_v flourish_v and_o dilate_v itself_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n be_v now_o old_a &_o to_o make_v she_o flourish_v in_o her_o old_a age_n be_v to_o make_v she_o a_o monster_n very_o we_o acknowledge_v that_o she_o flourish_v in_o her_o young_a age_n if_o these_o title_n of_o young_a and_o old_a may_v be_v attribute_v to_o she_o but_o shall_v not_o the_o church_n flourish_v in_o her_o old_a age_n as_o you_o speak_v m._n doctor_n what_o then_o be_v become_v of_o largeness_n of_o dominion_n if_o largeness_n of_o dominion_n be_v a_o note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n than_o it_o shall_v be_v always_o ample_a and_o large_a indeed_o thanks_n be_v to_o god_n our_o church_n now_o be_v ample_a as_o testify_v england_n scotland_n denmark_n suetia_n saxony_n helvetia_n and_o other_o country_n and_o therefore_o the_o doctor_n vari_v in_o this_o point_n but_o that_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v reveal_v and_o the_o church_n increase_v it_o be_v plain_a out_o of_o the_o 2._o thess_n 2._o where_o paul_n prophesi_v that_o the_o lord_n shall_v consume_v he_o with_o the_o spirit_n of_o his_o mouth_n this_o to_o be_v do_v we_o see_v it_o daily_o with_o our_o eye_n for_o by_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n antichrist_n be_v continual_o lessen_v moreover_o in_o this_o reason_n the_o doctor_n affirm_v that_o persecution_n of_o any_o moment_n be_v not_o against_o papist_n but_o only_o in_o england_n the_o persecution_n of_o papist_n in_o england_n be_v for_o treason_n as_o their_o own_o writing_n testify_v the_o title_n of_o the_o book_n be_v this_o important_a consideration_n which_o ought_v to_o move_v all_o true_a catholic_n to_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o proceed_n of_o her_o majesty_n since_o the_o begin_n of_o her_o highness_n reign_n have_v be_v both_o mild_a and_o merciful_a the_o rhemist_n be_v contrary_a to_o this_o doctor_n for_o they_o write_v upon_o the_o 20._o of_o the_o rev._n affirm_v catholic_n to_o be_v persecute_v not_o only_o in_o england_n but_o also_o in_o scotland_n flaunders_n and_o other_o place_n thus_o well_o heretic_n agree_v among_o themselves_o to_o be_v brief_a the_o papist_n be_v so_o persecute_v that_o they_o be_v benè_fw-la habiti_fw-la well_o like_v as_o all_o man_n know_v and_o have_v affluentiam_fw-la honorum_fw-la store_n of_o good_n but_o the_o doctor_n desire_v to_o be_v tell_v whether_o against_o all_o learned_a physician_n and_o against_o all_o lawyer_n one_o or_o two_o of_o late_a year_n be_v to_o be_v credit_v i_o answer_v if_o they_o have_v the_o truth_n on_o their_o side_n they_o be_v may_v not_o michaiah_n have_v be_v pose_v with_o this_o question_n who_o be_v but_o one_o against_o four_o hundred_o prophet_n do_v not_o paphnutius_fw-la stand_v up_o in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o teach_v that_o a_o heavy_a yoke_n shall_v not_o be_v lay_v on_o those_o which_o be_v dedicate_v to_o the_o ministry_n here_o be_v one_o against_o that_o famous_a council_n this_o question_n may_v well_o have_v be_v demand_v of_o eugenius_n who_o will_v not_o obey_v the_o council_n of_o basill_n ba._n 1000_o de_fw-fr gest_n conc_fw-fr ba._n aeneas_z silvius_z write_v thus_o neque_fw-la in_o concilio_n dignitas_fw-la patrum_fw-la sed_fw-la ratio_fw-la specto_fw-la est_fw-la in_o a_o council_n the_o dignity_n of_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v regard_v but_o reason_n and_o again_o non_fw-la ergo_fw-la cuiusvis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la mendacium_fw-la quamvis_fw-la ditissimi_fw-la veritati_fw-la praeponam_fw-la pauperis_fw-la praesbyteri_fw-la i_o will_v not_o prefer_v bishop_n untruth_n before_o a_o elder_n truth_n though_o one_o be_v rich_a and_o the_o other_o very_o poor_a what_o shall_v i_o speak_v of_o athanasius_n condemn_v in_o the_o council_n of_o milan_n panormitane_n be_v plain_a dur._n whi●ak_v 34._o p._n cont_n dur._n plus_fw-fr credendum_fw-la est_fw-la vel_fw-la simplici_fw-la laico_fw-la scripturam_fw-la proferenti_fw-la quàm_fw-la toti_fw-la simul_fw-la concilio_n a_o layman_n be_v more_o to_o be_v believe_v allege_v scripture_n than_o a_o whole_a council_n hierome_n translate_v the_o scripture_n according_a to_o the_o hebrew_n whereas_o before_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o 70._o 39●_n ann._n 39●_n interpreter_n be_v currant_n yet_o say_v sigebert_n praevaluit_fw-la authoritas_fw-la hebraica_n veritatis_fw-la the_o authority_n of_o the_o hebrew_n truth_n prevail_v hieroms_n act_n be_v against_o inveteratum_fw-la usum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la the_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o church_n whereas_o he_o call_v luther_n a_o loose_a apostata_fw-la and_o m._n calvin_n a_o sore_n back_v priest_n for_o sodomy_n i_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o for_o such_o slander_n of_o these_o man_n good_a man_n shall_v more_o and_o more_o abhor_v popery_n and_o for_o thy_o satisfy_n christian_a reader_n i_o desire_v thou_o to_o read_v that_o which_o erasmus_n have_v write_v concern_v luther_n and_o that_o which_o be_v print_v by_o beza_n concern_v calvin_n life_n sodomy_n be_v too_o common_a among_o papist_n as_o witness_v picus_n mirandula_n in_o his_o oration_n to_o leo_n the_o ten_o in_o these_o word_n sacrae_fw-la aedes_fw-la ac_fw-la templa_fw-la lenonibus_fw-la ac_fw-la calamytis_fw-la commissa_fw-la church_n and_o temple_n be_v commit_v to_o bawd_n and_o boy_n abuse_v contrary_a to_o nature_n with_o picus_n agree_v mantuan_n sanctus_n agre_z scurris_n venerabilis_fw-la ara_fw-la cynaedis_fw-la seruit_fw-la honorandae_fw-la divum_fw-la ganymedibus_fw-la aedes_fw-la the_o church_n land_n be_v give_v to_o common_a lester_n the_o sacred_a altar_n allot_v to_o wanton_n the_o temple_n of_o saint_n to_o boy_n provide_v for_o filthy_a lust_n last_o whereas_o he_o faith_n that_o if_o he_o shall_v refuse_v the_o catholic_a roman_a religion_n his_o ancetour_n will_v use_v such_o speech_n as_o these_o do_v thou_o condemn_v all_o our_o do_n do_v thou_o send_v we_o all_o to_o hell_n etc._n etc._n i_o answer_v that_o god_n have_v not_o refer_v we_o from_o his_o word_n to_o our_o father_n walk_v not_o in_o the_o precept_n of_o your_o father_n 20._o ezek._n 20._o neither_o observe_v their_o manner_n nor_o defile_v yourselves_o with_o their_o idol_n say_v the_o lord_n we_o condemn_v not_o our_o father_n except_o they_o condemn_v themselves_o dei_fw-la iudicia_fw-la occulia_fw-la sed_fw-la semper_fw-la iusta_fw-la god_n judgement_n be_v secret_a but_o always_o just_a if_o our_o father_n hold_v the_o foundation_n as_o i_o hope_v many_o do_v they_o may_v be_v save_v ignosci_fw-la potest_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la erranti_fw-la he_o that_o err_v of_o ignorance_n sin_v less_o than_o he_o to_o who_o knowledge_n be_v reveal_v i_o conclude_v with_o cyprian_a si_fw-mi solus_fw-la christus_fw-la audiendus_fw-la if_o only_a christ_n must_v be_v hear_v we_o must_v not_o regard_v what_o any_o before_o we_o have_v think_v meet_a but_o what_o christ_n himself_o have_v do_v for_o a_o man_n must_v not_o follow_v custom_n but_o god_n truth_n and_o with_o prudentius_n who_o answer_v symmachus_n his_o objection_n nobis_fw-la sequendi_fw-la sunt_fw-la parent_n we_o must_v follow_v our_o father_n frustrà_fw-la igitur_fw-la solitis_fw-la prava_fw-la observatio_fw-la inhaere_n in_o vain_a do_v thou_o cleave_v to_o custom_n o_o wicked_a obedience_n the_o six_o reason_n miracle_n m._n doctor_n noli_fw-la illud_fw-la tàm_fw-la confidenter_fw-la affirmare_fw-la quod_fw-la socij_fw-la tui_fw-la falsum_fw-la esse_fw-la docuerunt_fw-la avouch_v not_o that_o so_o bold_o which_o your_o fellow_n have_v teach_v to_o be_v false_a true_a miracle_n say_v you_o be_v never_o wrought_v but_o by_o they_o which_o be_v of_o the_o true_a religion_n for_o that_o they_o be_v do_v only_o by_o the_o power_n of_o god_n the_o rhemist_n upon_o the_o 9_o of_o mark_n be_v of_o another_o mind_n for_o thus_o they_o write_v miracle_n be_v wrought_v sometime_o by_o the_o name_n of_o jesus_n whatsoever_o the_o man_n be_v when_o it_o be_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o truth_n or_o for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n insomuch_o that_o julian_n the_o apostata_fw-la himself_o do_v drive_v away_o devil_n with_o
first_o that_o augustine_n speak_v of_o ancient_a miracle_n for_o he_o say_v tenet_n i_o authoritas_fw-la miraculis_fw-la inchoata_fw-la authority_n begin_v by_o miracle_n do_v hold_v i_o in_o second_o i_o answer_v that_o augustine_n do_v prefer_v truth_n before_o miracle_n in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o confess_v that_o veritas_fw-la est_fw-la illis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la praeponenda_fw-la truth_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o all_o those_o thing_n now_o i_o return_v the_o argument_n they_o which_o have_v true_a miracle_n be_v the_o true_a church_n but_o the_o protestant_n have_v true_a miracle_n ergo._n for_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o assumption_n we_o produce_v the_o apostle_n miracle_n by_o which_o that_o doctrine_n which_o we_o maintain_v be_v confirm_v many_o hundred_o year_n ago_o if_o our_o doctrine_n be_v not_o contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n let_v it_o be_v disproove_v by_o the_o same_o but_o because_o the_o doctor_n say_v out_o of_o augustine_n that_o he_o be_v bind_v in_o the_o church_n by_o the_o bond_n of_o miracle_n i_o will_v it_o may_v please_v he_o a_o little_a to_o listen_v unto_o s._n augustine_n write_v thus_o 16._o de_fw-fr uni_fw-la eccle_n cap._n 16._o non_fw-la dicat_fw-la ideò_fw-la verum_fw-la esse_fw-la quia_fw-la illa_fw-la &_o illa_fw-la mirabilia_fw-la fecit_fw-la donatus_n vel_fw-la pontius_n etc._n etc._n let_v no_o man_n say_v it_o be_v true_a because_o donatus_n or_o pontius_n have_v do_v these_o or_o these_o miracle_n or_o because_o man_n at_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o dead_a do_v pray_v and_o be_v hear_v or_o because_o these_o or_o these_o thing_n do_v happen_v there_o or_o because_o this_o our_o brother_n or_o that_o our_o sister_n see_v such_o a_o vision_n wake_v or_o dream_v such_o or_o such_o a_o vision_n sleep_v in_o in_o the_o same_o cap._n augustine_n speak_v thus_o quaecunque_fw-la talia_fw-la such_o thing_n whatsoever_o be_v to_o be_v approve_v because_o they_o be_v do_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o make_v know_v by_o they_o belsee_v his_o report_n of_o luther_n and_o calvin_n we_o reject_v and_o touch_v our_o gospel_n it_o be_v not_o altogether_o without_o miracle_n in_o these_o day_n your_o idol_n be_v fall_v quisquis_fw-la adhuc_fw-la prodigia_fw-la ut_fw-la credat_fw-la inquirit_fw-la believe_v the_o world_n believe_v whosoever_o seek_v for_o wonder_n that_o he_o may_v believe_v be_v himself_o a_o wonder_n take_v heed_n therefore_o m._n doctor_n lest_o you_o make_v yourself_o a_o miracle_n that_o will_v not_o believe_v without_o miracle_n the_o 7._o reason_n vision_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o pprophecy_n cytharaedus_n ridiculus_fw-la chorda_fw-la qui_fw-la semper_fw-la oberrat_fw-la eadem_fw-la this_o doctor_n harp_v always_o upon_o one_o string_n he_o be_v not_o content_v with_o miracle_n but_o now_o he_o come_v to_o vision_n and_o confident_o affirm_v that_o vision_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o pprophecy_n be_v never_o find_v to_o be_v but_o in_o the_o true_a church_n yet_o aquinas_n in_o his_o 2._o 2._o 172._o quest_n art_n 6._o teach_v that_o prophetae_fw-la daemonum_fw-la aliquando_fw-la verum_fw-la praedicant_fw-la the_o devil_n prophet_n sometime_o foretell_v the_o truth_n yea_o he_o avouch_v that_o propheta_fw-la daemonum_fw-la non_fw-la semper_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la ex_fw-la revelatione_fw-la daemonum_fw-la sed_fw-la interdum_fw-la ex_fw-la inspiratione_n divina_fw-la that_o the_o devil_n prophet_n do_v not_o always_o speak_v by_o revelation_n from_o the_o devil_n but_o sometime_o by_o inspiration_n from_o god_n and_o this_o he_o proove_v by_o balaam_n his_o example_n unto_o who_o the_o lord_n speak_v as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o 22._o of_o numb_a the_o sybilles_n as_o the_o doctor_n himself_o confess_v prophesy_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o right_a religion_n yet_o be_v they_o ethnic_n and_o live_v among_o they_o who_o dare_v say_v that_o the_o church_n be_v with_o the_o heathen_a because_o of_o the_o sybilles_n but_o i_o draw_v this_o argument_n into_o a_o syllogism_n they_o which_o have_v vision_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o pprophecy_n be_v the_o church_n but_o the_o papist_n have_v vision_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o pprophecy_n ergo._n aquinas_n as_o you_o have_v hear_v m._n doctor_n deni_v your_o proposition_n and_o whereas_o you_o will_v prove_v the_o same_o because_o s._n paul_n s._n peter_n and_o s._n john_n stand_v upon_o revelation_n behold_v now_o your_o double_a folly_n first_o you_o thus_o conclude_v the_o church_n have_v vision_n therefore_o it_o only_o have_v vision_n which_o be_v as_o good_a as_o if_o a_o man_n shall_v conclude_v the_o church_n teach_v the_o trinity_n ergo_fw-la no_o heretic_n teach_v the_o same_o second_o the_o church_n have_v vision_n therefore_o it_o shall_v always_o have_v vision_n who_o will_v grant_v you_o this_o consequence_n s._n augustine_n say_v 10._o 3._o book_n the_o bap_n cap._n 10._o that_o miracle_n be_v ad_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la primordia_fw-la dilatanda_fw-la to_o enlarge_v the_o beginning_n of_o the_o church_n so_o be_v vision_n to_o last_v for_o a_o time_n i_o return_v the_o argument_n they_o which_o have_v vision_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o pprophecy_n be_v the_o true_a church_n but_o the_o protestant_n have_v vision_n ergo_fw-la they_o be_v the_o true_a church_n the_o assumption_n be_v prove_v by_o s._n paul_n saint_n peter_n and_o saint_n johns_n vision_n our_o doctrine_n be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o saint_n john_n hear_v a_o voice_n from_o heaven_n say_v bless_a be_v the_o dead_a for_o they_o rest_v from_o their_o labour_n so_o say_v we_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o purgatory_n pain_n for_o they_o after_o this_o life_n the_o scripture_n teach_v that_o the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o perfect_a and_o full_a satisfaction_n for_o our_o sin_n so_o say_v we_o and_o therefore_o there_o remain_v not_o any_o part_n of_o god_n justice_n to_o be_v satisfy_v by_o us._n but_o let_v we_o see_v what_o vision_n the_o papist_n have_v and_o what_o a_o dangerous_a thing_n it_o be_v to_o stand_v upon_o vision_n bellarmine_n in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o purgatory_n and_o 7._o chap._n allege_v a_o vision_n out_o of_o beda_n to_o prove_v beside_o hell_n purgatory_n and_o heaven_n a_o four_o place_n namely_o pratum_fw-la florentissimum_fw-la dilucidissimum_fw-la as_o it_o be_v a_o most_o goodly_a meadow_n and_o in_o the_o same_o book_n and_o 4._o chap._n he_o show_v that_o dyonisius_n the_o carthusian_n and_o michael_n baius_n by_o vision_n will_v prove_v that_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n be_v not_o certain_a of_o their_o salvation_n which_o opinion_n he_o confute_v thus_o you_o see_v out_o of_o your_o own_o writer_n what_o credit_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o vision_n by_o such_o counterfeit_a mean_n we_o may_v prove_v any_o thing_n i_o say_v therefore_o with_o augustine_n removeantur_fw-la ista_fw-la vel_fw-la figmenta_fw-la mendacium_fw-la hominum_fw-la vel_fw-la portenta_fw-la fallacium_fw-la spirituum_fw-la away_o with_o these_o feign_a thing_n of_o lie_a man_n or_o monster_n of_o lie_a spirit_n and_o now_o m._n doctor_n to_o argue_v upon_o your_o own_o grant_n both_o of_o miracle_n and_o vision_n you_o say_v that_o the_o heathen_a have_v prophecy_n to_o confirm_v right_a religion_n grant_v you_o then_o that_o you_o have_v some_o few_o which_o work_v both_o true_a miracle_n and_o see_v true_a vision_n it_o be_v not_o to_o confirm_v your_o erroneous_a doctrine_n but_o to_o confirm_v that_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n which_o be_v hold_v in_o your_o church_n for_o all_o they_o you_o be_v a_o corrupt_a church_n yet_o there_o be_v some_o relic_n of_o true_a doctrine_n remain_v and_o so_o by_o sequel_n of_o your_o own_o speech_n these_o thing_n may_v come_v to_o pass_v to_o confirm_v that_o true_a doctrine_n which_o be_v among_o you_o heretic_n have_v hold_v some_o true_a opinion_n that_o there_o heresy_n may_v be_v the_o better_o bolster_v out_o you_o hold_v the_o trinity_n and_o some_o other_o point_n of_o religion_n it_o may_v be_v then_o that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o miracle_n or_o vision_n among_o you_o it_o be_v to_o confirm_v the_o relic_n of_o that_o truth_n which_o remain_v with_o you_o thus_o i_o have_v argue_v upon_o your_o own_o word_n and_o grant_v but_o for_o my_o part_n i_o hold_v with_o chrysostome_n imper_v 49._o hom_n in_o op●_n imper_v that_o nunc_fw-la nulla_fw-la probatio_fw-la esse_fw-la potest_fw-la vorae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la there_o can_v be_v now_o no_o proof_n of_o the_o true_a church_n but_o only_o by_o the_o scripture_n he_o give_v a_o reason_n of_o his_o speech_n quia_fw-la say_v he_o qua_fw-la propria_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o veritate_fw-la ca_fw-mi harese_n habent_fw-la in_fw-la schismate_fw-la habent_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la habent_fw-la scripturas_fw-la divinas_fw-la habent_fw-la episcopos_fw-la caeterosque_fw-la ordines_fw-la clericorum_fw-la habent_fw-la baptismum_fw-la habent_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la caeteraque_fw-la omne_fw-la because_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o truth_n heresy_n have_v in_o their_o schism_n they_o have_v church_n they_o have_v scripture_n they_o have_v bishop_n
thing_n but_o in_o scoff_a manner_n if_o you_o do_v serious_o hold_v they_o prove_v they_o serious_o and_o not_o with_o ridiculous_a authority_n the_o 11._o reason_n trial_n of_o truth_n that_o it_o appertain_v to_o the_o church_n to_o try_v and_o to_o discern_v spirit_n as_o also_o to_o determine_v and_o to_o decide_v doubt_n we_o confess_v m._n d._n try_v all_o thing_n say_v paul_n 4._o 1_o thess_n 5._o 1._o joh._n 4._o and_o s._n john_n command_v we_o to_o prove_v the_o spirit_n but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o you_o be_v the_o church_n or_o no_o quid_fw-la ergo_fw-la facturi_fw-la sumus_fw-la what_o shall_v we_o do_v i_o answer_v with_o augustine_n propound_v this_o question_n unitat_fw-la cap._n 2._o de_fw-la unitat_fw-la that_o we_o must_v seek_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o word_n qui_fw-la veritas_fw-la est_fw-la &_o optimè_fw-la novit_fw-la corpus_fw-la suum_fw-la who_o be_v truth_n &_o best_a know_v his_o body_n where_o you_o say_v that_o we_o can_v otherwise_v but_o receive_v the_o scripture_n upon_o the_o catholic_a roman_a church_n credit_n and_o also_o three_o creed_n and_o some_o article_n of_o belief_n as_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o proceed_v from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n and_o many_o term_n as_o person_n trinity_n consubstantial_a sacrament_n i_o will_v answer_v these_o point_n several_o and_o first_o i_o desire_v to_o know_v what_o reason_n you_o have_v to_o make_v a_o particular_a church_n as_o the_o roman_a church_n catholic_a the_o roman_a church_n if_o it_o be_v a_o true_a church_n be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n it_o be_v catholic_a say_v augustine_n because_o it_o be_v per_fw-la totum_fw-la through_o the_o whole_a world_n 5._o de_fw-fr unit_fw-la cap._n 5._o cyril_n in_o his_o 18._o chap._n among_o many_o reason_n of_o the_o name_n give_v this_o quia_fw-la per_fw-la universum_fw-la sit_fw-la orbem_fw-la terrarum_fw-la diffusa_fw-la because_o it_o be_v diffuse_v through_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v it_o all_o one_o to_o say_v i_o believe_v the_o catholic_a church_n and_o to_o say_v i_o believe_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o leave_v this_o matter_n and_o to_o come_v to_o your_o speech_n that_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o know_v the_o bible_n which_o be_v use_v among_o christian_n to_o be_v the_o true_a word_n of_o god_n indeed_o but_o upon_o the_o roman_a church_n credit_n first_o such_o idle_a question_n the_o old_a heretic_n the_o manichee_n demand_v of_o s._n augustine_n to_o who_o s._n augustine_n answer_v man._n lib._n 32._o cap_n 21._o cont_n faust_n man._n si_fw-mi quaeratis_fw-la à_fw-la nobis_fw-la unde_fw-la nos_fw-la sciamus_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la esse_fw-la istas_fw-la literas_fw-la breviter_fw-la vobis_fw-la respondemus_fw-la inde_fw-la nos_fw-la scire_fw-la unde_fw-la &_o vos_fw-la scitis_fw-la illas_fw-la literas_fw-la esse_fw-la manichaei_n if_o you_o demand_v of_o we_o how_o we_o know_v that_o these_o be_v the_o apostle_n writing_n we_o shape_v you_o this_o short_a answer_n as_o you_o know_v that_o your_o writing_n be_v of_o the_o heretic_n manichee_n second_o i_o will_v know_v how_o you_o can_v prove_v any_o church_n to_o be_v the_o church_n but_o by_o the_o scripture_n if_o you_o can_v prove_v the_o church_n but_o by_o the_o scripture_n than_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n depend_v upon_o they_o and_o not_o è_fw-la contra_fw-la three_o we_o receive_v not_o the_o scripture_n upon_o the_o roman_a church_n credit_n for_o than_o we_o shall_v have_v receive_v also_o the_o book_n which_o be_v apocrypha_fw-la as_o well_o as_o the_o true_a canon_n of_o the_o bible_n for_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v receive_v they_o four_o we_o receive_v the_o scripture_n from_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o many_o man_n by_o the_o heavenly_a majesty_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v move_v to_o receive_v they_o before_o they_o know_v which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n try_n gonarus_n con_v cost_n justin_n martyr_n say_v that_o christ_n word_n have_v in_o th●●_n fear_v to_o persuade_v in_o dialogo_fw-la cum_fw-la try_n mantuan_n de_fw-fr pat_o l._n 3._o c._n 2._o say_v thus_o firmiter_fw-la scripturas_fw-la ideo_fw-la credimus_fw-la quòd_fw-la divinam_fw-la inspirationem_fw-la intra_fw-la accipimus_fw-la we_o steadfast_o believe_v the_o scripture_n because_o we_o have_v receive_v a_o inward_a inspiration_n from_o god_n he_o that_o will_v despise_v the_o scripture_n will_v despise_v the_o church_n he_o that_o will_v not_o believe_v there_o be_v a_o god_n because_o the_o scripture_n teach_v it_o will_v not_o believe_v it_o because_o the_o church_n teach_v the_o same_o the_o scripture_n be_v credit_v before_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v ens_fw-la or_o in_fw-la rerum_fw-la natura_fw-la the_o apostle_n believe_v the_o gospel_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n before_o he_o wrought_v any_o miracle_n because_o it_o be_v testify_v by_o the_o scripture_n joh._n 1.46_o adam_n and_o other_o believe_v without_o the_o church_n our_o saviour_n christ_n preach_v repent_v and_o believe_v the_o gospel_n which_o some_o do_v without_o the_o church_n eusebius_n in_o his_o three_o book_n and_o 21._o chap._n write_v that_o the_o gospel_n of_o thomas_n and_o other_o be_v reject_v because_o that_o phraseos_fw-la character_n à_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la apostolica_fw-la variat_fw-la &_o ipsa_fw-la sententia_fw-la &_o propositum_fw-la eorum_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o illis_fw-la adferuntur_fw-la plurimum_fw-la à_fw-la veritate_fw-la rectae_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la discrepant_a the_o style_n do_v vary_v from_o the_o apostolical_a manner_n and_o the_o matter_n and_o the_o intent_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v allege_v in_o they_o do_v much_o differ_v from_o the_o truth_n of_o right_a doctrine_n the_o consent_n of_o scripture_n the_o miracle_n and_o prophecy_n with_o many_o other_o argument_n draw_v a_o man_n to_o credit_v the_o same_o yea_o the_o deadly_a hatred_n which_o the_o world_n bear_v unto_o they_o persuade_v not_o a_o little_a sacris_fw-la scripture_n say_v bellarmine_n nihil_fw-la est_fw-la notius_fw-la d●i_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o the_o u●●_n d●i_fw-la nihil_fw-la certius_fw-la there_o be_v nothing_o more_o know_v and_o certain_a then_o the_o scripture_n read_v bellarmine_n yourself_o m._n doctor_n that_o he_o may_v satisfy_v you_o in_o this_o point_n but_o if_o we_o believe_v the_o scripture_n by_o the_o church_n do_v not_o the_o church_n teach_v we_o to_o believe_v by_o the_o scripture_n how_o can_v the_o church_n right_o persuade_v we_o to_o believe_v but_o by_o preach_v and_o produce_v of_o scripture_n ergo_fw-la the_o scripture_n be_v of_o much_o more_o force_n than_o the_o bare_a name_n of_o a_o church_n for_o propter_fw-la quod_fw-la unumquodque_fw-la tale_n est_fw-la illud_fw-la magis_fw-la tale_n if_o the_o church_n induce_v we_o to_o believe_v than_o the_o scripture_n do_v much_o more_o because_o the_o church_n do_v it_o by_o the_o scripture_n the_o church_n be_v a_o excellent_a mean_n ordain_v of_o god_n to_o bring_v man_n to_o belief_n neither_o do_v we_o contemn_v the_o authority_n thereof_o the_o samaritan_n believe_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o a_o woman_n 4._o jo●_a 4._o but_o afterward_o they_o believe_v because_o of_o christ_n himself_o so_o the_o church_n may_v bring_v one_o to_o believe_v but_o afterward_o to_o believe_v for_o the_o word_n itself_o the_o testimony_n of_o augustine_n be_v fraudulent_o allege_v by_o you_o his_o word_n be_v commoveret_fw-la for_o he_o say_v as_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n which_o hold_v he_o in_o the_o faith_n so_o if_o he_o be_v a_o infidel_n he_o will_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n unless_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n with_o other_o thing_n do_v move_v he_o ergo_fw-la not_o only_o the_o church_n and_o he_o speak_v if_o he_o be_v a_o infidel_n as_o the_o word_n go_v before_o do_v plain_o manifest_v si_fw-mi inuenies_fw-la aliquem_fw-la if_o thou_o shall_v find_v any_o which_o yet_o do_v not_o believe_v the_o gospel_n what_o will_v thou_o do_v say_v to_o thou_o i_o do_v not_o believe_v then_o immediate_o follow_v your_o sentence_n i_o will_v not_o believe_v unless_o etc._n etc._n nicholaus_fw-la clenangis_fw-la be_v worthy_a to_o be_v hear_v concern_v this_o testimony_n of_o augustine_n con_fw-mi disp_n super_fw-la g●●_n con_fw-mi mirum_fw-la sane_fw-la prima_fw-la specie_fw-la satis_fw-la videtur_fw-la at_o the_o first_o fight_v it_o be_v marvel_n that_o he_o shall_v prefer_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o stranger_n in_o the_o earth_n before_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o gospel_n see_v the_o church_n may_v be_v deceive_v in_o many_o thing_n and_o the_o gospel_n can_v afterward_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n of_o augustine_n speech_n because_o the_o manichee_n do_v reject_v scripture_n at_o their_o pleasure_n to_o stand_v yet_o somewhat_o long_o in_o this_o testimony_n 1●_n con._n lib._n 5_o c._n 1●_n augustine_n be_v move_v to_o believe_v by_o ambrose_n be_v ambrose_n his_o authority_n therefore_o equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n god_n forbid_v whosoever_o list_v to_o read_v the_o 5._o chap_n of_o the_o 6._o
the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n as_o gregory_n nazianzen_n write_v orat_fw-la in_o julian._n theodo_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 3._o hist_o and_o so_o heretic_n may_v do_v miracle_n among_o the_o heathen_a if_o miracle_n may_v be_v do_v by_o heretic_n they_o be_v then_o not_o always_o do_v by_o those_o which_o be_v of_o the_o true_a religion_n except_o heretic_n be_v of_o the_o true_a religion_n thus_o your_o own_o man_n m._n doctor_n drive_v you_o to_o the_o wall_n socrates_n in_o his_o 7._o book_n and_o 17._o chap._n report_v a_o miracle_n do_v by_o paulus_n a_o novatian_a bishop_n judaeus_fw-la quidam_fw-la veteratus_fw-la christianam_fw-la fidem_fw-la simulans_fw-la saepius_fw-la baptizatus_fw-la fuit_fw-la per_fw-la quam_fw-la fallaciam_fw-la multas_fw-la pecunias_fw-la corrasit_fw-la a_o certain_a jew_n be_v a_o old_a deceiver_n and_o counterfeit_a christian_a religion_n be_v diverse_a time_n baptize_v by_o which_o deceit_n he_o gather_v much_o money_n in_o the_o end_n when_o he_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o paulus_n vniversa_fw-la aqua_fw-la divina_fw-la quadam_fw-la virtute_fw-la quae_fw-la oculis_fw-la cerni_fw-la non_fw-la poterat_fw-la subitò_fw-la exhausta_fw-la est_fw-la all_o the_o water_n by_o god_n power_n which_o can_v not_o be_v see_v sudden_o vanish_v away_o here_o you_o see_v a_o novatian_a bishop_n do_v a_o miracle_n and_o so_o man_n if_o they_o shall_v credit_v miracle_n without_o true_a doctrine_n may_v be_v draw_v to_o heresy_n thomas_n your_o angelical_a doctor_n in_o his_o first_o part_n and_o 114._o quest_n art_n 4._o teach_v that_o daemon_n possunt_fw-la vera_fw-la miracula_fw-la facere_fw-la ad_fw-la seducendum_fw-la the_o devil_n may_v do_v true_a miracle_n to_o seduce_v and_o he_o proove_v it_o out_o of_o augustine_n who_o write_v that_o magicis_fw-la artibus_fw-la sunt_fw-la plerunque_fw-la miracula_fw-la similia_fw-la illis_fw-la miraculis_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la per_fw-la dei_fw-la seruos_fw-la miracle_n be_v do_v by_o magic_n even_o such_o as_o god_n servant_n do_v in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o answer_v the_o vulgar_a argument_n which_o be_v this_o than_o they_o be_v not_o effectual_a to_o confirm_v faith_n read_v his_o answer_n yourself_o m._n doctor_n at_o your_o own_o leisure_n where_o you_o say_v miracle_n be_v do_v only_o by_o the_o power_n of_o god_n if_o you_o speak_v exact_o of_o miracle_n i_o join_v with_o you_o for_o as_o the_o same_o aquinas_n teach_v in_o his_o 110._o quest_n that_o be_v proper_o a_o miracle_n which_o be_v do_v praetor_n ordinem_fw-la totius_fw-la naturae_fw-la creatae_fw-la above_o all_o power_n that_o be_v create_v when_o god_n work_v such_o miracle_n by_o false_a prophet_n and_o heretic_n he_o do_v it_o to_o try_v man_n as_o moses_n speak_v in_o the_o 13._o of_o deut._n if_o there_o arise_v among_o you_o a_o prophet_n or_o a_o dreamer_n of_o dream_n and_o give_v thou_o a_o sign_n or_o a_o wonder_n and_o the_o sign_n come_v to_o pass_v thou_o shall_v not_o hearken_v unto_o the_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n for_o the_o lord_n your_o god_n proove_v you_o to_o know_v whether_o you_o love_v the_o lord_n your_o god_n with_o all_o your_o heart_n or_o no._n out_o of_o this_o place_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o god_n will_v try_v his_o servant_n sometime_o by_o wonder_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o always_o do_v to_o confirm_v true_a religion_n in_o the_o question_n that_o go_v under_o justins_n name_n the_o author_n thus_o propound_v the_o question_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o heretic_n work_v wonder_n as_o cure_v of_o disease_n cast_v out_o of_o devil_n how_o come_v it_o to_o pass_v that_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v confirm_v in_o their_o error_n he_o answer_v as_o god_n cause_v the_o sun_n to_o shine_v upon_o the_o good_a and_o bad_a not_o to_o confirm_v they_o in_o their_o wickedness_n but_o to_o make_v a_o way_n to_o his_o righteous_a judgement_n so_o he_o do_v in_o heretic_n that_o work_v wonder_n hence_o i_o gather_v that_o the_o lord_n do_v prepare_v a_o way_n for_o his_o will_n when_o false_a prophet_n work_v any_o wonder_n but_o i_o reduce_v his_o reason_n into_o a_o syllogism_n that_o religion_n which_o have_v miracle_n be_v the_o true_a religion_n but_o the_o roman_a religion_n have_v miracle_n ergo._n i_o deny_v the_o proposition_n for_o i_o have_v prove_v it_o false_a by_o sundry_a testimony_n i_o will_v now_o annexe_v tertullian_n his_o speech_n who_o write_v thus_o adijcient_a praetereà_fw-la multa_fw-la de_fw-la authoritate_fw-la cuiusque_fw-la haeretici_fw-la illos_fw-la maximè_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la suae_fw-la fidem_fw-la confirmasse_fw-la mortuos_fw-la suscitasse_fw-la prae_fw-la de_fw-fr prae_fw-la debiles_fw-la reformasse_n futura_fw-la significasse_fw-la quasi_fw-la nec_fw-la hoc_fw-la scriptum_fw-la sit_fw-la venturos_fw-la multos_fw-la qui_fw-la virtutes_fw-la maximas_fw-la aederent_fw-la ad_fw-la fallaciam_fw-la muniendam_fw-la corruptae_fw-la praedicationis_fw-la furthermore_o they_o will_v allege_v for_o the_o authority_n of_o heretic_n that_o they_o have_v especial_o confirm_v their_o doctrine_n by_o raise_v of_o the_o dead_a by_o restore_v the_o weak_a by_o foretell_v future_a thing_n as_o if_o it_o be_v not_o write_v that_o many_o shall_v come_v work_v wonder_n to_o confirm_v their_o corrupt_a preach_n in_o gratian_n i_o find_v this_o sentence_n 1._o 2._o part_n causa_fw-la 1._o non_fw-la melius_fw-la debet_fw-la credi_fw-la propter_fw-la miracula_fw-la nam_fw-la communia_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o bonis_fw-la &_o malis_fw-la man_n be_v not_o the_o better_a to_o be_v credit_v for_o miracle_n because_o they_o be_v common_a to_o good_a and_o bad_a many_o of_o the_o ancient_a miracle_n we_o acknowledge_v this_o doctor_n number_v some_o in_o tertullia_n time_n and_o in_o other_o but_o let_v he_o show_v the_o roman_a faith_n to_o be_v whole_o the_o same_o as_o then_o it_o be_v miracle_n may_v then_o be_v needful_a to_o convert_v pagan_n and_o jew_n among_o who_o christian_n be_v disperse_v but_o the_o popish_a miracle_n be_v feign_v thing_n 5._o lib._n 5._o as_o testify_v pabrugenius_n heu_fw-la quas_fw-la non_fw-la nugas_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la miracula_fw-la fingunt_fw-la ut_fw-la vulgus_fw-la fallant_fw-la optataque_fw-la praemia_fw-la carpant_fw-la what_o miracle_n do_v they_o not_o fain_o for_o reward_v lyra_n write_v thus_o upon_o the_o 14._o of_o dan._n aliquando_fw-la fit_a in_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la maxima_fw-la deceptio_fw-la populi_fw-la in_o miraculis_fw-la fictis_fw-la à_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la vel_fw-la eye_n adhaerentibus_fw-la propter_fw-la lucrum_fw-la temporale_fw-la &_o talia_fw-la sunt_fw-la extirpanda_fw-la à_fw-la bonis_fw-la praelatis_fw-la sicut_fw-la ista_fw-la miracula_fw-la extirpata_fw-la sunt_fw-la à_fw-la daniele_n sometime_o even_o in_o the_o church_n the_o people_n be_v shameful_o deceive_v with_o feign_a miracle_n wrought_v either_o by_o their_o priest_n or_o by_o their_o companion_n for_o lucre_n sake_n and_o good_a prelate_n be_v to_o abandon_v such_o as_o daniel_n do_v these_o testimony_n may_v suffice_v any_o man_n not_o be_v utter_v by_o a_o calvinist_n as_o they_o call_v they_o but_o by_o some_o of_o their_o own_o coat_n cop._n jewel_n ex_fw-la cop._n what_o shall_v i_o speak_v of_o make_v barren_a woman_n bear_v by_o holy_a water_n and_o drive_v mouse_n out_o of_o the_o country_n by_o the_o same_o ergo_fw-la eras_n pere_fw-fr ergo_fw-la the_o milk_n of_o the_o virgin_n marie_n and_o the_o blood_n of_o heart_n be_v not_o yet_o forget_v the_o transportation_n of_o the_o virgin_n maries_fw-fr house_n p._n gomarus_n 16_o p._n be_v monstrous_a to_o remember_v the_o author_n report_v that_o venienti_fw-la domicilio_fw-la arbores_fw-la obvias_fw-la velut_fw-la venerabundas_fw-la inclinasse_n tree_n do_v meet_v it_o and_o bow_v down_o do_v worship_v it_o gregorius_n turonensis_n report_v 6._o lib._n 9_o cap._n 6._o that_o one_o in_o stead_n of_o saint_n relic_n have_v sacculum_fw-la magnum_fw-la plenum_fw-la de_fw-la radicibus_fw-la diversarum_fw-la herbarum_fw-la &_o dentes_fw-la talpae_fw-la &_o ossa_fw-la muruum_fw-la &_o ungue_fw-la ursinos_fw-la a_o great_a sack_n full_a of_o root_n of_o diverse_a herb_n and_o there_o be_v also_o tooth_n of_o moule_n and_o the_o bone_n of_o mouse_n and_o bear_n claw_n but_o i_o take_v no_o pleasure_n in_o heap_v together_o this_o trash_n and_o therefore_o i_o come_v to_o augustine_n authority_n allege_v by_o this_o doctor_n the_o first_o be_v not_o in_o the_o 17._o cap._n but_o in_o the_o 16._o creden_fw-mi de_fw-fr util_fw-la creden_fw-mi where_o he_o say_v that_o miracula_fw-la nos_fw-la movent_fw-la miracle_n move_v we_o but_o he_o speak_v of_o christ_n miracle_n as_o it_o be_v manifest_a towards_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chap._n homines_fw-la illius_fw-la temporis_fw-la aquam_fw-la in_o vinum_fw-la conuersam_fw-la viderunt_fw-la the_o man_n of_o these_o time_n do_v see_v water_n turn_v into_o wine_n in_o the_o second_o place_n he_o say_v that_o ista_fw-la vincula_fw-la rectè_fw-la hominem_fw-la credentem_fw-la tenent_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la 5._o con._n epist_n f●n_o cap._n 5._o these_o band_n do_v by_o right_o hold_v a_o believer_n in_o the_o church_n speak_v of_o miracle_n and_o other_o thing_n i_o answer_v
gregorius_n &_o dyonisius_n say_v picus_n mirandula_n discordant_a circa_fw-la ordines_fw-la angelorum_fw-la gregory_n and_o dyonisius_n disagree_v about_o the_o order_n of_o angel_n if_o gregory_n dissent_v from_o he_o why_o may_v not_o luther_n do_v so_o who_o so_o desire_v to_o read_v more_o of_o this_o dyonisius_n may_v be_v refer_v to_o erasmus_n and_o valla._n that_o the_o protestant_n rail_v at_o the_o father_n it_o must_v be_v number_v among_o the_o doctor_n untruth_n but_o by_o protestant_n this_o man_n mean_v the_o puritan_n forsooth_o although_o this_o odious_a name_n of_o puritan_n agree_v better_v to_o papist_n 38._o august_n haeres_fw-la 38._o who_o do_v so_o stand_v upon_o their_o purity_n because_o they_o can_v keep_v all_o god_n commandment_n yet_o know_v not_o i_o any_o so_o call_v that_o rail_v at_o all_o the_o father_n but_o here_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v even_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n that_o the_o protestant_n defend_v the_o father_n against_o the_o puritan_n therefore_o they_o rail_v not_o at_o they_o thus_o m._n doctor_n you_o hardly_o know_v what_o you_o write_v you_o be_v so_o eager_o carry_v against_o the_o protestant_n somewhat_o you_o will_v say_v but_o yet_o know_v not_o well_o how_o to_o utter_v your_o mind_n we_o acknowledge_v the_o father_n to_o have_v have_v excellent_a wit_n to_o have_v study_v and_o pray_v continual_o yet_o do_v we_o not_o deify_v they_o neither_o do_v we_o account_v their_o writing_n canonical_a scripture_n as_o augustine_n speak_v of_o cyprian_a lib._n 2._o cont_n cres_n cap._n 32._o where_o you_o call_v the_o protestant_n foolish_a unstudy_v unlearned_a profane_a and_o arrogant_a fellow_n you_o bewray_v your_o vain_a spirit_n vascula_fw-la inania_fw-la maximè_fw-la tinniunt_fw-la the_o empty_a vessel_n make_v the_o great_a sound_n of_o your_o learning_n we_o shall_v speak_v more_o hereafter_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o will_v have_v you_o to_o know_v that_o constat_fw-la plures_fw-la papa●_n adeò_fw-la illiteratos_fw-la fuisse_fw-la ut_fw-la grammaticam_fw-la penitus_fw-la ignorarent_fw-la 4._o alphon._n l._n 1._o c._n 4._o it_o be_v certain_o know_v that_o sundry_a pope_n have_v be_v so_o unlearned_a that_o they_o never_o understand_v their_o grammar_n you_o say_v further_o that_o protestant_n be_v give_v to_o lust_n ambition_n gluttony_n and_o covetousness_n if_o for_o protestant_n you_o have_v name_v papist_n it_o have_v be_v a_o true_a say_n for_o as_o your_o own_o man_n coster_n confess_v plarique_n catholici_fw-la feris_fw-la ac_fw-la bellumis_fw-la moribus_fw-la blasphemiae_fw-la causam_fw-la prabent_fw-la infidelibus_fw-la many_o catholic_n or_o papist_n be_v of_o savage_a and_o beastly_a manner_n and_o behaviour_n do_v cause_n infidel_n to_o blaspheme_v but_o more_o also_o of_o this_o in_o another_o place_n if_o the_o centuriator_n and_o calvine_n have_v note_v some_o error_n in_o some_o of_o the_o father_n it_o be_v no_o more_o than_o papist_n have_v do_v the_o rhemist_n renounce_v augustine_n exposition_n upon_o the_o 16._o of_o matthew_n bellarmine_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr sancto_fw-la beat_v and_o 6._o chap._n say_v that_o justinus_n epiphanius_n ireneus_fw-la and_o oecumenius_n can_v be_v defend_v again_o ambrose_n hilary_n and_o nissen_n be_v reject_v of_o he_o cap._n 4._o lib._n 2._o the_o rel_n to_o proceed_v he_o hold_v that_o adam_n be_v not_o deceive_v 7._o lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr amiss_o great_a cap._n 7._o yet_o communis_fw-la patrum_fw-la sententia_fw-la id_fw-la videtur_fw-la habere_fw-la ut_fw-la adam_n fuerit_fw-la seductus_fw-la the_o father_n common_a opinion_n seem_v to_o be_v that_o adam_n be_v seduce_v hierome_n agree_v not_o with_o the_o father_n concern_v the_o burial_n of_o adam_n bell._n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr amiss_o great_a cap._n 12._o theodoret_n expound_v some_o place_n of_o scripture_n as_o the_o pelagians-doe_a bellar._n lib._n 4._o the_o amiss_o great_a cap._n 9_o the_o father_n before_o pelaguis_fw-la do_v not_o accurate_o handle_v the_o doctrine_n of_o predestination_n bellar._n lib._n 2._o the_o great_a &_o lib._n arb_n c._n 11._o last_o not_o to_o be_v too_o tedious_a cap._n 14._o eiusdem_fw-la lib._n he_o say_v that_o patres_fw-la cum_fw-la ad_fw-la populum_fw-la verba_fw-la facerent_fw-la ea_fw-la dicebant_fw-la quae_fw-la utiliora_fw-la videbantur_fw-la ad_fw-la excitandos_fw-la homines_fw-la ad_fw-la bona_fw-la opera_fw-la the_o father_n when_o they_o do_v speak_v to_o the_o people_n utter_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v most_o profitable_a to_o stir_v up_o the_o people_n to_o good_a work_n for_o thy_o further_a satisfaction_n christian_a reader_n i_o desire_v thou_o but_o to_o read_v bellarmine_n exposition_n of_o the_o lord_n prayer_n and_o tell_v i_o how_o the_o father_n do_v agree_v even_o in_o expound_v that_o one_o prayer_n their_o diversity_n also_o in_o expound_v this_o article_n he_o sit_v on_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n be_v worthy_a to_o be_v consider_v bellar._n lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr incar_n cap._n 15._o m._n doctor_n humphrey_n his_o speech_n of_o that_o famous_a and_o reverend_a bishop_n jewel_n be_v injurious_a to_o himself_o be_v utter_v in_o respect_n of_o his_o great_a pain_n and_o not_o to_o detract_v from_o the_o truth_n of_o his_o challenge_n if_o you_o can_v confute_v his_o book_n set_v upon_o it_o if_o you_o can_v never_o hereafter_o brag_v of_o the_o father_n for_o indeed_o it_o be_v no_o small_a mean_n to_o confirm_v the_o protestant_n in_o their_o cause_n that_o his_o book_n have_v not_o be_v answer_v in_o so_o long_a a_o time_n you_o cry_v the_o father_n the_o father_n be_v on_o your_o side_n and_o yet_o have_v not_o satisfy_v m._n jewel_n his_o challenge_n in_o many_o year_n i_o reduce_v your_o argument_n into_o a_o syllogism_n they_o which_o condemn_v the_o father_n of_o error_n hold_v a_o false_a religion_n but_o the_o protestant_n condemn_v the_o father_n of_o error_n ergo._n to_o this_o argument_n let_v augustine_n answer_v si_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la earum_fw-la scilicet_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o ecclesiae_fw-la canonicae_fw-la nominantur_fw-la perspicua_fw-la aliquid_fw-la firmatur_fw-la authoritate_fw-la sine_fw-la ulla_fw-la dubitatione_n credendum_fw-la est_fw-la 112._o ●pist_v 112._o alijs_fw-la verò_fw-la testibus_fw-la vel_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la quibus_fw-la aliquid_fw-la credendum_fw-la esse_fw-la suadetur_fw-la tibi_fw-la credere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la credere_fw-la liceat_fw-la if_o any_o thing_n be_v confirm_v by_o evident_a authority_n of_o those_o scripture_n which_o be_v call_v canonical_a in_o the_o church_n we_o must_v believe_v it_o without_o any_o doubt_n but_o other_o witness_n or_o testimony_n by_o which_o some_o thing_n to_o be_v believe_v be_v persuade_v thou_o may_v believe_v or_o not_o believe_v i_o may_v abound_v with_o his_o testimony_n i_o will_v adjoine_v one_o other_o neque_fw-la quorumlibet_fw-la disputationes_fw-la quamvis_fw-la catholicorum_fw-la &_o laudatorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la velut_fw-la scripturas_fw-la habere_fw-la debemus_fw-la 1●1_n epist_n 1●1_n ut_fw-la nobis_fw-la non_fw-la liceat_fw-la salva_fw-la honorificentia_fw-la quae_fw-la illis_fw-la debetur_fw-la hominibus_fw-la aliquid_fw-la in_o corum_fw-la scriptis_fw-la improbare_fw-la aut_fw-la respondere_fw-la we_o ought_v not_o to_o account_v any_o man_n disputation_n although_o catholic_a and_o laudable_a man_n as_o the_o scripture_n as_o if_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o we_o the_o honour_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o they_o reserve_v to_o disallow_v and_o reject_v something_o in_o their_o writing_n picus_n mirandula_n in_o his_o apology_n proove_v that_o in_o dictis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la extra_fw-la canonem_fw-la bibliae_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la infallibilis_fw-la veritas_fw-la in_o the_o say_n of_o saint_n without_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o bible_n there_o be_v not_o infallible_a truth_n the_o papist_n themselves_o refuse_v the_o father_n pucichius_n say_v mihi_fw-la non_fw-la placet_fw-la augustini_fw-la ea_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la definitio_fw-la 548._o i●●l_n 548._o i_o like_v not_o s._n augustine_n determination_n of_o that_o point_n namely_o original_a sin_n epiphanius_n be_v reject_v for_o break_v image_n by_o d._n harding_n cyprian_n be_v condemn_v by_o duraeus_n because_o he_o teach_v that_o only_a christ_n be_v to_o be_v hear_v but_o that_o we_o may_v see_v all_o the_o father_n to_o be_v on_o your_o side_n m._n doctor_n produce_v i_o pray_v if_o you_o can_v their_o testimony_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v err_v that_o he_o may_v depose_v prince_n that_o he_o must_v summon_v counsel_n and_o that_o he_o be_v above_o the_o same_o or_o that_o the_o virgin_n marie_n be_v not_o conceive_v in_o original_a sin_n i_o have_v desire_v to_o see_v these_o point_n prove_v by_o all_o the_o father_n if_o you_o can_v do_v it_o you_o shall_v do_v more_o than_o your_o own_o man_n have_v do_v by_o these_o new_a opinion_n we_o may_v gather_v that_o popery_n do_v begin_v by_o degree_n and_o have_v increase_v to_o this_o height_n these_o doctrine_n although_o they_o concern_v the_o head_n of_o your_o church_n be_v so_o weak_o prove_v by_o the_o father_n that_o a_o man_n will_v imagine_v you_o do_v not_o hold_v these_o
book_n of_o his_o confession_n shall_v find_v that_o he_o do_v believe_v the_o scripture_n for_o themselves_o in_o his_o 14._o chap._n of_o the_o book_n cite_v by_o the_o doctor_n he_o write_v thus_o quid_fw-la putas_fw-la faciendum_fw-la nisi_fw-la ut_fw-la eos_fw-la relinquamus_fw-la qui_fw-la nos_fw-la invitant_fw-la certa_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la imperant_fw-la ut_fw-la incerta_fw-la credamus_fw-la &_o eos_fw-la sequamur_fw-la qui_fw-la nos_fw-la invitant_fw-la prius_fw-la credere_fw-la quod_fw-la nondum_fw-la valemus_fw-la intueri_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsa_fw-la side_n valentiore_fw-la facti_fw-la quod_fw-la credimus_fw-la intelligere_fw-la mereamur_fw-la non_fw-la iam_fw-la hominibus_fw-la sed_fw-la ipso_fw-la deo_fw-la intrinsecus_fw-la mentem_fw-la nostram_fw-la firmante_fw-la atque_fw-la illuminante_fw-la what_o have_v we_o to_o do_v but_o to_o forsake_v they_o that_o invite_v we_o to_o know_v certain_a thing_n and_o afterward_o command_v we_o to_o believe_v uncertain_a thing_n and_o to_o follow_v they_o which_o invite_v we_o first_o to_o believe_v that_o which_o yet_o we_o be_v not_o able_a to_o behold_v that_o be_v make_v strong_a through_o faith_n we_o may_v attain_v to_o understand_v that_o we_o believe_v now_o not_o man_n but_o god_n himself_o confirm_v and_o lighten_v our_o mind_n inward_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n therefore_o must_v cause_v we_o to_o believe_v otherwise_o we_o shall_v waver_v and_o stagger_v to_o conclude_v this_o point_n many_o bear_v in_o heresy_n and_o schism_n have_v be_v move_v by_o heretic_n to_o believe_v the_o scripture_n be_v heresy_n therefore_o equal_a to_o the_o scripture_n nothing_o less_o the_o three_o creed_n we_o receive_v because_o the_o doctrine_n be_v contain_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o you_o do_v not_o receive_v athanasius_n his_o creed_n for_o he_o make_v but_o two_o place_n vitam_fw-la aeternam_fw-la &_o ignem_fw-la aeternum_fw-la omnes_fw-la homines_fw-la resurgent_fw-la cum_fw-la corporibus_fw-la suis_fw-la &_o reddituri_fw-la sunt_fw-la de_fw-la factis_fw-la preprijs_fw-la rationem_fw-la &_o qui_fw-la benè_fw-la egerunt_fw-la ibunt_fw-la in_o vitam_fw-la aeternam_fw-la qui_fw-la verò_fw-la malè_fw-la in_o ignem_fw-la aeternum_fw-la all_o man_n shall_v rise_v with_o their_o own_o body_n and_o shall_v give_v a_o account_n of_o their_o deed_n and_o they_o which_o have_v do_v well_o shall_v go_v into_o life_n everlasting_a &_o they_o which_o have_v do_v evil_a into_o everlasting_a fire_n you_o teach_v that_o infant_n unbaptise_v shall_v be_v in_o a_o brim_n of_o hell_n and_o not_o in_o the_o fire_n of_o hell_n thus_o if_o you_o have_v be_v wise_a m._n doctor_n you_o will_v have_v be_v silent_a concern_v these_o creed_n if_o i_o shall_v show_v your_o contrariety_n to_o the_o apostle_n creed_n i_o shall_v be_v overlong_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v proceed_v from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n 22._o lib._n 2._o de_fw-fr christ_n cap._n 22._o bellarmine_n proove_v plentiful_o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n what_o a_o ignorant_a doctor_n be_v this_o that_o can_v see_v this_o mystery_n prove_v in_o holy_a scripture_n touch_v the_o term_n as_o person_n trinity_n consubstantial_a sacrament_n what_o if_o they_o be_v not_o in_o scripture_n the_o heavenly_a doctrine_n signify_v by_o the_o word_n be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n if_o these_o word_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n than_o man_n be_v damn_v before_o they_o be_v invent_v which_o i_o think_v the_o doctor_n will_v not_o grant_v for_o many_o believe_v the_o thing_n although_o the_o name_n be_v not_o extant_a augustine_n call_v the_o book_n of_o toby_n and_o other_o canonical_a because_o they_o be_v read_v to_o edification_n for_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o oppose_v his_o authority_n to_o so_o many_o father_n as_o i_o have_v before_o produce_v in_o the_o place_n by_o you_o cite_v he_o will_v have_v those_o book_n which_o be_v receive_v of_o all_o church_n prefer_v before_o those_o which_o some_o church_n receive_v not_o hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o he_o make_v not_o all_o of_o equal_a authority_n 23._o lib._n 2_o con_v gaud_n cap._n 23._o elsewhere_o he_o will_v have_v the_o book_n of_o maccabee_n read_v so_o it_o be_v non_fw-fr inutiliter_fw-la &_o sobriè_fw-la not_o unprofitable_o and_o sober_o why_o do_v he_o give_v this_o caution_n to_o these_o book_n if_o they_o be_v of_o like_a authority_n and_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr praed_fw-we sanct._n c._n 14._o he_o confess_v when_o he_o do_v produce_v a_o testimony_n out_o of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n that_o the_o brethren_n do_v reject_v it_o &_o there_o he_o contend_v not_o much_o for_o it_o if_o it_o have_v be_v canonical_a he_o shall_v not_o have_v so_o remisse_o plead_v for_o it_o thus_o it_o appear_v why_o he_o call_v these_o book_n canonical_a where_o you_o say_v that_o no_o heretic_n can_v charge_v the_o church_n with_o add_v or_o diminish_v one_o jot_n from_o the_o scripture_n we_o must_v admire_v god_n providence_n and_o his_o love_n towards_o his_o church_n he_o preserve_v the_o scripture_n though_o man_n will_v take_v they_o out_o of_o the_o world_n but_o if_o you_o mean_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o alter_v the_o holy_a scripture_n you_o must_v know_v that_o the_o papist_n hold_v the_o hebrew_n and_o the_o greek_a text_n to_o be_v corrupt_a and_o have_v establish_v a_o latin_a translation_n differ_v far_o from_o the_o hebrew_n and_o greek_a and_o be_v not_o this_o to_o alter_v the_o scripture_n if_o i_o shall_v show_v the_o corruption_n of_o that_o translation_n i_o shall_v be_v very_o tedious_a i_o will_v name_v one_o in_o the_o 1._o of_o the_o hebr._n it_o be_v say_v christ_n have_v purge_v our_o sin_n by_o himself_o these_o word_n by_o himself_o be_v clean_o strike_v out_o of_o their_o rhemists_n translation_n what_o a_o intolerable_a corruption_n be_v this_o but_o i_o will_v conclude_v the_o matter_n in_o a_o syllogism_n they_o which_o establish_v a_o corrupt_a translation_n alter_v the_o scripture_n or_o at_o least_o a_o jot_n of_o the_o same_o but_o the_o papist_n establish_v a_o corrupt_a translation_n ergo._n and_o indeed_o i_o can_v sufficient_o wonder_v at_o they_o who_o establish_v their_o latin_a translation_n eo_fw-la nomine_fw-la because_o it_o be_v hierom_n and_o yet_o will_v not_o allow_v his_o translation_n of_o the_o psalm_n what_o deal_v with_o the_o scripture_n be_v this_o he_o have_v correct_v that_o translation_n of_o the_o psalm_n which_o they_o use_v and_o yet_o they_o have_v defy_v it_o you_o further_o demand_v why_o we_o shall_v trust_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n rather_o in_o this_o then_o in_o other_o thing_n i_o answer_v first_o that_z as_o i_o have_v prove_v we_o trust_v not_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n but_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o second_o it_o be_v a_o ridiculous_a consequent_a we_o believe_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o this_o point_n ergo_fw-la we_o must_v do_v so_o in_o all_o other_o to_o make_v your_o folly_n manifest_a unto_o you_o self_n m._n d._n you_o believe_v the_o church_n of_o england_n in_o some_o point_n will_v you_o do_v so_o in_o all_o i_o will_v it_o be_v so_o that_o we_o have_v have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o bible_n for_o a_o thousand_o year_n and_o that_o we_o have_v rob_v the_o church_n of_o many_o book_n be_v detestable_a untruth_n but_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n be_v not_o the_o scripture_n preserve_v in_o the_o greek_a church_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o romish_a church_n do_v not_o the_o jew_n keep_v the_o scripture_n and_o yet_o to_o use_v your_o phrase_n our_o saviour_n wrest_v they_o out_o of_o their_o hand_n not_o as_o just_a but_o as_o unjust_a possessor_n of_o they_o the_o pharisy_n may_v have_v use_v the_o same_o speech_n to_o our_o saviour_n christ_n that_o the_o doctor_n do_v to_o us._n he_o have_v three_o other_o question_n in_o this_o chapter_n the_o first_o be_v how_o we_o rely_v only_o upon_o scripture_n can_v show_v certain_o which_o book_n be_v scripture_n and_o which_o not_o this_o question_n i_o have_v at_o large_a answer_v in_o this_o chapter_n and_o therefore_o i_o will_v not_o repeat_v my_o answer_n second_o he_o will_v know_v of_o the_o unlearned_a protestant_n how_o he_o know_v the_o translation_n to_o be_v true_a i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o know_v every_o thing_n to_o be_v true_o translate_v the_o spirit_n of_o god_n speak_v in_o the_o scripture_n certifi_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o unlearned_a that_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o english_a tongue_n be_v the_o scripture_n the_o three_o question_n it_o why_o we_o believe_v our_o own_o judgement_n rather_o the_o luther_n or_o calvin_n i_o answer_v we_o believe_v their_o judgement_n that_o bring_v best_a proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n but_o m._n doctor_n because_o you_o have_v pose_v we_o with_o so_o many_o question_n now_o i_o will_v pose_v you_o with_o one_o likewise_o why_o do_v you_o receive_v your_o latin_a translation_n rather_o upon_o this_o pope_n authority_n