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A66445 The blovdy tenent, of persecution, for cause of conscience, discussed, in a conference betweene trvth and peace vvho, in all tender affection, present to the high court of Parliament, as the result of their discourse, these, amongst other passages, of highest consideration. Williams, Roger, 1604?-1683.; Cotton, John, 1584-1652. 1644 (1644) Wing W2758; ESTC R2405 232,471 275

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the Church constituted and gathered but to such Ministers or Messengers of Christ Iesus whom he is pleased to imploy to gather and constitute the Church by converting and baptizing unto which Messengers if Christ Jesus will be pleased to send such forth that passage Acts 15. will be presidentiall Peace The 14. generall head is this viz. What power particular Churches have particularly over Magistrates First say they they may censure any Member though a Magistrate if by sinne he deserve it First because Magistrates must be subject to Christ but Christ censures all offenders 1 Cor. 5. 45. Secondly Every Brother must be subject to Christs censure Mat. 18. 15 16 17. But Magistrates are brethren Deut 17. 15. Thirdly They may censure all within the Church I Cor. 5. 12. But the Magistrates are within the Church for they are either without or within or above the Church not the first nor the last for so Christ is only above it Fourthly The Church hath a charge of all the Soules of the members and must give account thereof Heb. 13. 17. Fifthly Christs censures are for the good of Soules I Cor. 5. 6. but Magistrates must not be denied any priviledge for their Soules for then they must lose a priviledge of Christ by being Magistrates Sixthly In Church priviledges Christians are all one Gal. 2. 28. Col. 3. 11. 2. Magistrates may be censured for apparent and manifest sinne against any Morall Law of God in their judiciall proceedings or in the execution of their office Courts are not Sanctuaries for sin and if for no sin then not for such especially First because sinnes of Magistrates in Court are as hatefull to God 2. And as much spoken against Isa. 10. 1. Mic. 3. 1. Thirdly God hath no where granted such immunity to them Fourthly what a brother may doe privately in case of private offence that the Church may doe publikely in case of publike scandall But a private brother may admonish and reprove privately in case of any private offence Mat. 18. 15. Luc. 19. 17. Psal. 141. 5. Lastly Civill Magistracy doth not exempt any Church from faithfull watchfulnesse over any member nor deprive a Church of her due power not a Church member of his due priviledge which is to partake of every Ordinance of God needfull and requisite to their winning and salvation Erg● CHAP. CXXXV Truth THese Arguments to prove the Magistrate subject even for sinne committed in judiciall proceeding I judge like Mount Zion immoveable and every true Christian that is a Magistrate will judge so with mee Yet a Quaerie or two will not be unseasonable First where they name the Church in this whole passage whether they meane the Church without the Ministry or Governours of it or with the Elders and Governours joyntly and if the latter why name they not the Governours at all since that in all administrations of the Church the duty lies not upon the body of the Church but firstly and properly upon the Elders It is true in case of the Elders obstinacy in apparent sinne the Church hath power over him having as much power to take down as to set up Col. 4. Say to Archippus c. Yet in the ordinary dispensations and administrations of the Ordinances the Ministers or Elders thereof are first charged with duty c. Hence first for the Apostles who converted gathered espoused the Churches to Christ I question whether their power to edification was not a power over the Churches as many Scriptures seem to imply Secondly for the ordinary Officers ordained for the ordinary and constant guiding feeding and governing the Church they were Rulers Shepheards Bishops or Overseers and to them was every letter and charge commendation or reproofe directed Revel 2. 3. Acts 20. And that place by them quoted for the submission of the Magistrates to the Church it mentions only submission to the Rulers therof Heb. 13. 17. Those excellent men concealed not this out of ignorance and therefore most certainly in a silent way confesse that their doctrine concerning the Magistrates power in Church causes would too g●osse if they should not have named the whole Church and but silently implyed the Governours of it And is it not wonderfull in any sober eye how the same persons Magistrates can be exalted over the Ministers and Members as being bound to establish reforme suppresse by the civill sword in punishing the body or goods and yet for the same actions if the Church and Governours thereof so conceive be liable to a punishment ten thousand times more transcendent to wit excommunication a punishment reaching to their soules and consciences and eternall estate and this not only for common sins but for those actions which immediately concerne the execution of their civill office in judiciall proceeding Peace The Prelates in Q. Elizabeths dayes kept with more plainnesse to their principles for acknowledging the Queen to be Supreme in all Church causes according to the Title and Power of Henry the 8. her Father taken from the Pope and given to him by the Parliament they professed that the Queen was not a sheepe but under Christ the chiefe Shepheard and that the Church had not power to excommunicate the Queen Truth Therefore sweet Peace it was esteemed capitall in that faithfull witnesse of so much truth as he saw even unto death Mr. Barrow to maintaine before the Lords of the Councell that the Queen herselfe was subject to the power of Christ Iesus in the Church which Truth overthrew that other Tenent that the Queene should be Head and Supreme in all Church causes Peace Those Bishops according to their principles though bad and false dealt plainly though cruelly with Mr. Barrow but these Authors whose principles are the same with the Bishops concerning the power of the Magistrate in Church affaires though they wave the Title and will not call them Heads or Governors which now in lighter times seems too grosse yet give they as much spirituall power and authoritie to the civill Magistrates to the full as ever the Bishops gave unto them although they yet also with the same breath lay all their honour in the dust and make them to lick the dust of the feet of the Churches as it is prophesied the Kings and Queens of the Earth shall doe when Christ makes them nursing fathers and nursing mothers Isa 49. The truth is Christ Jesus is honoured when the civill Magistrate a member of the Church punisheth any member or Elder of the Church with the civill sword even to the death for any crime against the civill State so deserving it for he beares not the sword in vain And Christ Iesus is againe most highly honoured when for apparent sinne in the Magistrate being a member of the Church for otherwise they have not to meddle with him the Elders with the Church admonish him and recover his Soule or if obstinate in sin cast him forth of their Spirituall and
of thy Witnesses that dare to plead thy Cause how are they charged to be mine Enemies contentious tarbulent seditious Secondly Thine Enemies though they speake and raile against thee though they outragiously pursue imprison banish kill thy faithfull Witnesses yet how is all ve●illion'd o're for Iustice 'gainst the Hereticks Yea if they 〈◊〉 and blow the 〈◊〉 of devouring Warres that leave neither Spirituall nor Civill State but burns up Branch and Root yet how doe all pretend an holy War He that kills and hee that 's killed they both cry out It is for God and for their conscience T is true nor one nor other seldome dare to plead the mighty Prince Christ Iesus for their Authour yet both both Protestant and Papist pretend they have spoke with Moses and the Prophets who all say they before Christ came allowed such holy persecutions holy Warres against the enemies of holy Church Truth Deare Peace to ease thy first complaint t is true thy dearest Sons most like their mother Peace-keeping Peace-making Sons of God have borne and still must beare the blurs of troublers of Israel and turners of the World upside downe And t is true againe what Salomon once spake The beginning of strife is as when one letteth out Water therefore saith he leave off contention before it be medled with This Caveat should keepe the bankes and sluces firme and strong that strife like a breach of waters breake not in upon the sons of men Yet strife must be distinguished It is necessary or unnecessary godly or ungodly Christian or unchristian c. It is unnecessary unlawfull dishonourable ungodly unchristian in most cases in the world for there is a possibility of keeping sweet Peace in most cases and if it be possible it is the expresse command of God that Peace be kept Rom. 13. Againe it is necessary honourable godly c. with civill and earthly weapons to defend the innocent and to rescue the oppressed from the violent pawes and jaws of oppressing persecuting Nimrods Psal. 73. Iob 29. It is as necessary yea more honourable godly and Christian to ●ight the ●ight of faith with religious and spirituall Artillery and to contend earnestly for the faith of Iesus once delivered to the Saints against all opposers and the gates of earth and hell men or devils yea against Paul himselfe or an Angell from heaven if he bring any other faith or doctrine Iude vers 4. Gal. 1. 8. Peace With the clashing of such Armes am I never wakened Speake once againe deare Truth to my second complaint of bloody persecution and devouring wars marching under the colours of upright Iustice and holy Zeale c. Truth Mine eares have long beene filled with a threefold dolefull Outcry First of one hundred forty foure thousand Virgins Rev. 14 forc'd and ravisht by Emperours Kings and Governours to their beds of worship and Religion set up like Absalems on high in their severall States and Countries Secondly the cry of those precious soules under the Altar Rev. 6. the soules of such as have beene persecuted and slaine for the testimony and witnesse of Iesus whose bloud hath beene spilt like water upon the earth and that because they have held fast the truth and witnesse of Iesus against the worship of the States and Times compelling to an uniformity of State Religion These cries of murthered Virgins who can sit still and heare Who can but run with zeale inflamed to prevent the destowring of chaste soules and spilling of the bloud of the innocent Humanity stirs up and prompts the Sonnes of men to draw materiall swords for a Virgins chastity and life against a ravishing murtherer And Piety and Christianity must needs awaken the Sons of God to draw the spirituall sword the Word of God to preserve the chastity and life of spirituall Virgins who abhorre the spirituall defilements of false worship Rev. 14. Thirdly the cry of the whole earth made drunke with the bloud of its inhabitants slaughtering each other in their blinded zeale for Conscience for Religion against the Catholickes against the Lutherans c. What fearfull cries within these twenty years of hundred thousands men women children fathers mothers husbands wives brethren sisters old and young high and low plundred ravished slaughtered murthered famished And hence these cries that men ●ling away the spirituall sword and spirituall artillery in spirituall and religious causes and rather trust for the suppressing of each others God Conscience and Religion as they suppose to an arme of flesh and sword of steele Truth Sweet Peace what hast thou there Peace Arguments against persecution for cause of Conscience Truth And what there Peace An Answer to such Arguments contrarily maintaining such persecution for cause of Conscience Truth These Arguments against such persecution and the Answer pleading for it written as Love hopes from godly intentions hearts and hands yet in a marvellous different stile and manner The Arguments against persecution in milke the Answer for it as I may say in bloud The Authour of these Arguments against persecution as I have beene informed being committed by som then in power close prisoner to Newgate for the witnesse of some truths of Iesus and having not the use of Pen and Inke wrote these Arguments in Milke in sheets of Paper brought to him by the Woman his Keeper from a friend in London as the stopples of his Milk bottle In such Paper written with Milk nothing will appeare but the way of reading it by fire being knowne to this friend who received the Papers he transcribed and kept together the Papers although the Author himselfe could not correct nor view what himselfe had written It was in milke tending to soule nourishment even for Babes and Sucklings in Christ. It was in milke spiritually white pure and innocent like those white horses of the Word of truth and meeknesse and the white Linnen or Armour of righteousnesse in the Army of Iesus Rev. 6. 19. It was in milke soft meeke peaceable and gentle tending both to the peace of soules and the peace of States and Kingdomes Peace The Answer though I hope out of milkie pure intentions is returned in bloud bloudy slaughterous conclusions bloudy to the souls of all men forc'd to the Religion and Worship which every civil State or Common-weale agrees on and compells all subjects to in a dissembled uniformitie Bloudy to the bodies first of the holy witnesses of Christ Iesus who testifie against such invented worships Secondly of the Nations and Peoples slaughtering each other for their severall respective Religions and Consciences CHAP. III. Truth IN the Answer Mr. Cotton first layes downe severall distinctions and conclusions of his owne tending to prove persecution Secondly Answers to the Scriptures and Arguments proposed against persecution Peace The first distinction is this By persecution for cause of Conscience I conceive you meane either for professing some point of doctrine which you
And if a breach follow it is not made by such doctrines but by the boysterous and violent opposers of them Such persons onely breake the Cities or Kingdomes peace who cry out for prison and swords against such who crosse their judgement or practice in Religion For as Iosephs mistris accused Ioseph of uncleannesse and calls out for civill violence against him when Ioseph was chaste and her selfe guilty So commonly the meeke and peaceable of the earth are traduced as rebells factious peace-breakers although they deale not with the State or State-matters but matters of divine and spirituall nature when their traducers are the onely unpeaceable and guilty of breach of Civill Peace Peace We are now come to the second part of the Answer which is a particular examination of such grounds as are brought against such persecution The first sort of grounds are from the Scriptures CHAP. XVIII FIrst Matth. 13. 30 38. because Christ commandeth to let alone the Tares to grow up together with the Wheat untill the Harvest Unto which he answereth That Tares are not Bryars and Thornes but partly Hypocrites like unto the godly but indeed carnall as the Tares are like to Wheat but are not Wheat or partly such corrupt doctrines or practices as are indeed unsound but yet such as come very near the truth as Tares do to the Wheat and so neer that good men may be taken with them and so the persons in whom they grow cannot bee rooted out but good Wheat will be rooted out with them In such a case saith he Christ calleth for peaceable toleration and not for penall prosecution according to the third Conclusion Truth The substance of this Answer I conceive to be first negative that by Tares are not meant persons of another Religion and Worship that is saith he they are not Briars and Thornes Secondly affirmative by Tares are meant either persons or doctrines or practices persons as hypocrites like the godly doctrines or practices corrupt yet like the truth For answer hereunto I confesse that not onely those worthy witnesses whose memories are sweet with all that feare God Calvin Beza c. but of later times many conjoyne with this worthy Answerer to satisfie themselves and others with such an Interpretation But alas how darke is the soule left that desires to walke with God in holy feare and trembling when in such a waighty and mighty point as this is that in matters of conscience concerneth the spilling of the bloud of thousands and the Civill Peace of the World in the taking up Armes to suppresse all false Religions when I say no evidence or demonstration of the Spirit is brought to prove such an interpretation nor Arguments from the place it selfe or the Scriptures of truth to confirme it but a bare Affirmation that these Tares must signifie persons or doctrines and practices I will not imagine any deceitfull purpose in the Answerers thoughts in the proposall of these three persons doctrines or practices yet dare I confidently avouch that the Old Serpent hath deceived their precious soules and by Tongue and Pen would deceive the soules of others by such a method of dividing the word of truth A threefold Cord and so a threefold Snare is strong and too like it is that one of the three either Persons Doctrines or Practices may catch some feet CHAP. XIX Peace THe place then being of such great importance as concerning the truth of God the bloud of thousands yea the bloud of Saints and of the Lord Iesus in them I shall request your more diligent search by the Lords holy assistance into this Scripture I shall make it evident that by these Tares in this Parable are meant persons in respect of their Religion and way of Worship open and visible professours as bad as briars and thornes not onely suspected Foxes but as bad as those greedy Wolves which Paul speakes of Acts 20. who with perverse and evill doctrines labour spiritually to devoure the flocke and to draw away Disciples after them whose mouthes must be stopped and yet no carnall force or weapon to be used against them but their mischiefe to bee resisted with those mighty weapons of the holy Armoury of the Lord Iesus wherein there hangs a thousand shields Cant. 4. That the Lord Iesus intendeth not doctrines or practices by the tares in this Parable is cleare for First the Lord Iesus expresly interpreteth the good seed to be persons and those the children of the Kingdome and the tares also to signifie Men and those the children of the Wicked one ver 38. Secondly such corrupt doctrines or practices are not to bee tolerated now as those Iewish observations the Lords owne Ordinances were for a while to be permitted Rom. 14. Nor so long as till the Angels the Reapers come to reape the Harvest in the end of the world For can we thinke that because the tender Consciences of the Iewes were to be tendred in their differences of meats that therefore persons must now bee tolerated in the Church for I speake not of the Civill State and that to the worlds end in superstitious forbearing and forbidding of flesh in Popish Lents and superstitious Fridayes c. and that because they were to be tendred in their observation of Iewish Holidayes that therefore untill the Harvest or Worlds end persons must now be tolerated I meane in the Church in the observation of Popish Christmas Easter Whitsontide and other superstitious Popish Festivals I willingly acknowledge that if the members of a Church of Christ shall upon some delusion of Sathan kneele at the Lords Supper keep Christmas or any other Popish observation great tendernesse ought to bee used in winning his soule from the errour of his way and yet I see not that persons so practising were sit to be received into the Churches of Christ now as the Iewes weake in the Faith that is in the Liberties of Christ were to be received Rom. 14. 1. And least of all as before that the toleration or permission of such ought to continue till Doomes day or the end of the world as this Parable urgeth the Toleration Let them alone untill the Harvest CHAP. XX. AGaine Hypocrites were not intended by the Lord Iesus in this famous Parable First the Originall word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 signifying all those Weeds which spring up with the Corne as Cockle Darnell Tares c. seemes to imply such a kinde of people as commonly and generally are knowne to bee manifestly different from and opposite to the true worshippers of God here called the children of the Kingdom as these weeds tares cockle darnell c. are commonly and presently knowne by every husbandman to differ from the wheat and to be opposite and contrary and hurtfull unto it Now whereas it is pleaded that these tares are like the wheat and so like that this consimilitude or likenesse is made the ground of this interpretation
for righteousnesse sake but that hindreth not but that he would have them execute upon all disobedience the judgement and vengeance required in the Word 2 Cor. 10. 6. Rom. 13. 4. Though it be true that wicked persons now may by the grace of God become true Disciples and Converts yet we may not doe evill that good may come thereof And evill it would bee to tolerate notorious evill doers whether seducing teachers or scandalous livers Christ had something against the Angel of the Church of Pergamus for tolerating them that held the doctrine of Balaam and against the Church of Thiatira for tolerating Iesabel to teach and seduce Rev. 2. 14. 20. Your second Head of Reasons is taken from the profession and practice of famous Princes King Iames Stephen of Poland King of Bohemia Whereunto a treble answer may briefly be returned First we willingly acknowledge that none is to be persecuted at all no more then they may be oppressed for righteousnesse sake Againe we acknowledge that none is to be punished for his conscience though mis-informed as hath been said unlesse his errour be fundamentall or seditiously and turbulently promoted and that after due conviction of his conscience that it may appeare he is not punished for his conscience but for sinning against his conscience Furthermore we acknowledge none is to be constrained to beleeve or professe the true Religion till he be convinced in judgement of the truth of it but yet restrained he may from blaspheming the truth and from seducing any unto pernicious errours 2. Wee answer what Princes professe or practise is not a rule of conscience they many times tolerate that in point of State policy which cannot justly be tolerated in point of true Christianity Againe Princes many times tolerate offendours out of very necessity when the offenders are either too many or too mighty for them to punish in which respect David tolerated Ioab and his murthers but against his will 3. We answer further that for those three Princes named by you who tolerated Religion we can name you more and greater who have not tolerated Heretickes and Schismatickes notwithstanding their pretence of conscience and arrogating the Crowne of Martyrdome to their sufferings Constantine the Great at the request of the Generall Councell of Nice banished Arrius with some of his fellowes Sozom. lib. 1. Eccles. Hist. cap. 19. 20. The same Constantine made a severe Law against the Donatists And the like proceedings against them were used by Valentinian Gratian and Theodosius as Augustine reporteth in Epist. 166. Only Iulian the Apostata granted liberty to Heretickes as well as to Pagans that he might by tolerating all weeds to grow choake the vitals of Christianity which was also the practice and sin of Valens the Arrian Queene Elizabeth as famous for her government as any of the former it is well knowne what Lawes she made and executed against Papists Yea and King Iames one of your own witnesses though he was slow in proceeding against Papists as you say for conscience sake yet you are not ignorant how sharply and severely he punished those whom the malignant world calleth Puritanes men of more conscience and better faith then he tolerated I come now to your third and last argument taken from the judgement of ancient and later Writers yea even of Papists themselves who have condemned persecution for conscience sake You begin with Hilary whose testimony we might admit without any prejudice to the truth for it is true the Christian Church doth not persecute but is persecuted But to excommunicate an Hereticke is not to persecute that is it is not to punish an innocent but a culpable and damnable person and that not for conscience but for persisting in errour against light of conscience whereof it hath beene convinced It is true also what he saith that neither the Apostles did not may we propagate Christian Religion by the Sword but if Pagans cannot be won by the Word they are not to be compelled by the Sword Neverthelesse this hindreth not but if they or any others should blaspheme the true God and his true Religion they ought to be severely punished and no lesse doe they deserve if they seduce from the truth to damnable Heresie or Idolatry Your next Writer which is Tertullian speaketh to the same purpose in the place alledged by you His intent is onely to restraine Scapula the Romane Governour of Africa from the persecution of Christians for not offering sacrifice to their gods And for that end fetcheth an argument from the Law of Naturall Equity not to compell any to any Religion but to permit them either to beleeve willingly or not to beleeve at all Which wee acknowledge and accordingly permit the Indians to continue in their unbeleefe Neverthelesse it will not therefore be lawfull openly to tolerate the worship of devils or Idols or the seduction of any from the truth When Tertullian saith Another mans Religion neither hurteth nor profiteth any it must be understood of private worship and Religion professed in private otherwise a false Religion professed by the Members of a Church or by such as have given their Names to Christ will be the ruine and desolation of the Church as appeareth by the threats of Christ to the Churches of Asia Revel 2. Your next Authour Hierom crosseth not the truth nor advantageth not your cause for we grant what he saith that Heresie must bee cut off with the Sword of the Spirit But this hindreth not but that being so cut downe if the Hereticke still persist in his Heresie to the seduction of others he may be cut off by the civill sword to prevent the perdition of others And that to bee Hieromes meaning appeareth by his note upon that of the Apostle A little Leaven leaveneth the whole lumpe therefore saith he a sparke as soone as it appeareth is to be extinguished and the Leaven to be removed from the rest of the dough rotten peeces of flesh are to be cut off and a scabbed beast is to be driven from the 〈◊〉 le●t the whole house masse of dough body and flocke be set on fire with the sparke bee sowred with the Leaven be putrified with the rotten flesh perish by the scabbed beast Brentius whom you next quote speaketh not to your Cause We willingly grant him and you that Man hath no power to make Lawes to bind Conscience But this hindreth not but that Men may see the Lawes of God observed which doe bind Conscience The like Answer may be returned to Luther whom you next alleadge First that the Government of the Civill Magistrate extendeth no further then over the Bodies and Goods of their Subjects not over their Soules And therefore they may not undertake to give Lawes to the Soules and Consciences of Men. Secondly that the Church of Christ doth not use the Arme of Secular Power to compell men to the Faith or profession of the Truth for this is to be done by Spirituall weapons whereby
they ●ill appeare to be of wrestling this Scripture before the Tribunall of the most High Truth Again Calvin speaking concerning fulfilling of the Law by love writes thus on the same place Sed Pauls● in totam 〈◊〉 respic● tantum de officiis lequitur quae nobis erg●● 〈◊〉 demand●n●ur à lig● That is Paul hath not respect unto the whole Law he speaks only of those duties which the Law commands towards our neighbours and it is manifest that in this place by our neighbours hee meanes high and low Magistrates and subjects unto whom we ought to walke by the rule of love paying unto every one their due Againe Caeterùm Paulus hic tantùm memînit secundae Tabulae quia de ea tantum erat quaestio But Paul here only mentioneth the second Table because the question was only concerning that And againe Quod autem repetit complementum legis esse dilectionem intellige ut prius de ea legis parte quod hominum societatem spectat Prior enim legis tabula quae est de cultu Dei minimé hic attingitur But in that he repeateth that love is the fulfilling of the Law understand as before that he speakes of that part of the Law which respects humane society for the first Table of the Law which concerneth the Worship of God is not in the least manner here touched After Calvin his successour in Geneva that holy and learned Beza upon the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 if there be any other Commandement it is summed up in this Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thy selfe writes thus Tota lex nihil aliud quám amorem Dei proximi praecipit sed tamen cum Apostolus hoc Ioco de mutuis hominum officiis disserat legis vocabulum ad secundam Tabulam restringendam puto The whole Law saith he commands nothing else but the love of God and yet neverthelesse since the Apostle in this place discourseth of the duties of men one toward another I thinke this terme law ought to be restrained to the second Table CHAP. XLVIII Peace I Pray now proceed to the second Argument from this Scripture against the use of civil weapons in matters of Religion and spirituall worship Truth The Spirit of God here commands subjection and obedience to higher Powers even to the Romane Emperours and all subordinate Magistrates and yet the Emperours and Governours under them were strangers from the life of God in Christ yea most averse and opposite yea cruell and bloody Persecutors of the name and Followers of Iesus and yet unto these is this subjection and obedience commanded Now true it is that as the civill Magistrate is apt not to content himselfe with the majesty of an earthly Throne Crowne Sword Scepter but to seat himselfe in the Throne of David in the Church So Gods people and it may be in Pauls time considering their high and glorious preferment and priviledges by Iesus Christ were apt to be much tempted to despise Civill Governours especially such as were ignorant of the Son of God and persecuted him in his servants Now then I argue if the Apostle should have commanded this subjection unto the Romane Emperours and Romane Magistrates in spirituall causes as to defend the truth which they were no way able to discerne but persecuted and upon trust from others no Magistrate not perswaded in his owne conscience is to take it Or else to punish Hereticks whom then also they must discerne and judge or else condemne them as the Iewes would have Pilate condemne the Lord Iesus upon the sentence of others I say if Paul should have in this Scripture put this worke upon these Romane Governours and commanded the Churches of Christ to have yeelded subjection in any such matters he must in the judgement of all men have put out the eye of Faith and Reason and Sense at once CHAP. XLIX Peace IT is said by some Why then did Paul himselfe Act. 25. appeale to Caesar unlesse that Caesar though he was not yet he ought to have beene a fit Iudge in such matters Truth I answer if Paul in this Appeale to Caesar had referred and submitted simply and properly the cause of Christ his Ministry and Ministration to the Romane Emperours Tribunall knowing him to be an Idolatrous stranger from 〈◊〉 true God and a Lion-like bloody persecutor of the Lord Iesus the Lambe of God I say let it be considered whether or no he had committed these 5. Evils The first against the dimmest light of Reason in appealing to darknesse to judge light to unrighteousnesse to judge righteousnesse the spiritually blinde to judge and end the controversie concerning heavenly colours Secondly against the cause of Religion which if condemned by every inferiour Idolater must needs bee condemned by the Caesars themselves who Nabuchadnezzar-like set up their State-images or Religions commanding the Worlds uniformity of worship to them Thirdly against the holy State and Calling of the Christians themselves who by virtue of their subjection to Christ even the least of them are in spirituall things above the highest Potentates or Emperours in the world who continue in enmity against or in an ignorant naturall state without Christ Iesus This honour or high exaltation above all his Holy ones to binde not literally but spiritually their Kings in Chaines and their Nobles in Linkes of Iron Psal. 49. Fourthly against his owne Calling Apostleship or office of Ministery unto which Caesar himselfe and all Potentates in spirituall and soule matters ought to have submitted and unto which in controversies of Christs Church and Kingdome Caesar himself ought to have appealed the Church of God being built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Ephes. 2. 20. And therefore in case that any of the Romane Governours or the Emperour himselfe had beene humbled and converted to Christianity by the preaching of Christ were not they themselves bound to subject themselves unto the power of the Lord Iesus in the hands of the Apostles and Churches and might not the Apostles and Churches have refused to have baptized or washed them into the profession of Christ Iesus upon the apprehension of their unworthinesse Or if received into Christian Fellowship were they not to stand at the Bar of the Lord Iesus in the Church concerning either their opinions or practices were they not to be cast out and delivered unto Sathan by the power of the Lord Iesus if after once and twice admonition they persist obstinate as faithfully and impartially as if they were the meanest in the Empire Yea although the Apostles the Churches the Elders or Governours thereof were poore and meane despised persons in civill respects and were themselves bound to yeeld all faithfull and loyall obedience to such Emperours and Governours in Civill things Were they not if Christians bound themselves to have submitted to these spirituall decrees of the Apostles and Elders as well as the lowest and meanest members of Christ Act.
16 And if so how should Paul appeale in spirituall things to Caesar or write to the Churches of Iesus to submite in Christian or Spirituall matters Fifthly if Paul had appealed to Caesar in spirituall respects hee had greatly prophaned the holy name of God in holy things in so improper and vaine a prostitution of spirituall things to carnall and naturall judgements which are not able to comprehend spirituall matters which are alone spiritually discerned 1 Cor. 2. And yet Caesar as a civill supreme Magistrate ought to defend Paul from Civill violence and sta●derous accusations about sedition mutiny civill disobedience c. And in that sense who doubts but God's people may appeale to the Romane Caesar an Egyptian Pharach a Philistian Abimelecke an Assyrian Nabuchadnezzar the great M●gol Prester Iohn the great Turke or an Indian Sachim CHAP. L. Peace WHich is the third Argument against the civill Magistrates power in spirituall and soule matters out of this Scripture Rom. 13 Truth I dispute from the nature of the Magistrates weapons vers 4. He hath a sword which hee beares not in vaine delivered to him as I acknowledge from Gods appointment in the free consent and choice of the subjects for common good We must distinguish of swords We finde foure sorts of swords mentioned in the New Testament First the sword of persecution which Herod stretched forth against Iames Act. 12. Secondly the sword of Gods Spirit expresly said to be the Word of God Ephes. 6. A sword of two edges caried in the mouth of Christ Rev. 1. which is of strong and mighty operation piercing betweene the bones and the marrow betweene the soule and the spirit Heb. 4. Thirdly the great sword of War and Destruction given to him that rides that terrible Red Horse of War so that he takes Peace from the Earth and men kill one another as is most lamentably true in the slaughter of so many hundred thousand soules within these few yeares in severall parts of Europe our owne and others None of these 3 swords are intended in this Scripture Therefore fourthly there is a Civill sword called the Sword of Civill justice which being of a materiall civill nature for the defence of Persons Estates Families Liberties of a City or Civill State and the suppressing of uncivill or injurious persons or actions by such civill punishment It cannot according to its utmost reach and capacitie now under Christ when all Nations are meerly civill without any such typicall holy respect upon them as was upon Israel a Nationall Church I say cannot extend to spirituall and Soul-causes Spirituall and Soule punishment which belongs to that spirituall sword with two edges the soule-piercing in soule-saving or soule-killing the Word of God CHAP. LII Truth A Fourth Argument from this Scripture I take in the 6. verse from Tribute custome c. which is a meerly civill Reward or Recompence for the Magistrates worke Now as the wages are such is the worke But the wages are meerely civill Custome Tribute c. not the contributions of the Saints or churches of Christ proper to the Spirituall and Christian state and such work only must the Magistrate attend upon as may properly deserve such civill wages reward or recompence Lastly that the Spirit of God never intended to direct or warrant the Magistrate to use his Power in spirituall affaires and Religious worship I argue from the terme or title it pleaseth the wisedome of God to give such Civill officers to wit vers 6. Gods Ministers Now at the very first blush no man denies a double Ministerie The one appointed by Christ Iesus in his Church to gather to governe receive in cast out and order all the affaires of the Church the House Citie or Kingdome of God Ephes. 4. 1 Cor. 12. Secondly a Civill Ministery or office meerely humane and civill which Men agree to constitute called therefore an humane creation 1 Pet. 2. and is as true and lawfull in those Nations Cities Kingdomes c. which never heard of the true God nor his holy Sonne Iesus as in any part of the World beside where the Name of Iesus is most taken up From all which premises viz. that the scope of the Spirit of God in this Chapter is to handle the matters of the second Table having handled the matters of the first in the 12. since the Magistrates of whom Paul wrote were naturall ungodly persecuting and yet lawfull Magistrates and to be obeyed in all lawfull Civill things Since all Magistrates are Gods Ministers essentially civill bounded to a civill work with civill weapons or instruments and paid or rewarded with civill rewards From all which I say I undeniably collect that this Scripture is generally mistaken and wrested from the scope of Gods Spirit and the nature of the place and cannot truly be alleadged by any for the Power of the Civill Magistrate to be exercised in spirituall and Soule-matters CHAP. LII Peace AGainst this I know many object out of the 4. verse of this Chapter that the Magistrate is to avenge or punish Evill from whence is gathered that Heresie false Christs false Churches false Ministeries false Seales being evill ought to be punished Civilly c. Truth I answer that the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is generally opposed to Civill Goodnesse or Virtue in a Common-wealth and not to Spirituall Good or Religion in the Church Secondly I have proved from the scope of the place that here is not intended Evill against the Spirituall or Christian Estate handled in the 12 Chap. but Evill against the Civill State in this 13. properly falling under the cognizance of the Civill Minister of God the Magistrate and punishable by that civill sword of his as an incivilitie disorder or breach of that civill order peace and civility unto which all the Inhabitants of a City Town or Kingdome oblige themselves Peace I have heard that the Elders of the New-English Churches who yet out of this 13 Rom. maintaine Persecution grant that the Magistrate is to preserve the peace and welfare of the State and therefore that he ought not to punish such sinnes as hurt not his peace In particular they say the Magistra●e may not punish secret sinnes in the Soule Nor such sinnes as are yet handling in the Church in a private way Nor such sinnes which are private in Families and therefore they say the Magistrate transgresteth to prosecute complaints of children against their parents servants agai●st masters wives against husbands and yet this proper to the Civill State Nor such sinnes as are between the Members and Churches themselves And they confesse that if the Magistrate punish and the Church punish there will be a greater Rent in their Peace Truth From thence sweet Peace may we well observe First the Magistrate is not to punish all Evill according to this their confession The distinction of private and publike Evill will not here availe because such as urge
of State policy tolerate what suits not with Christianity and out of State necessity tolerate ●s David did Ioab against their wils To which I answer First that although with him in the first I confesse that Princes may tolerate that out of State policy which will not stand with Christianity yet in the second he must acknowledge with me that there is a necessity sometime of State Toleration as in the case of Ioab and so his former affirmation generally laid downe viz. that it is evill to tolerate seducing Teachers or scandalous livers was not duly waighed in the Balance of the Sanctuary and is too light Secondly I affirme that that State policy and State necessity which for the peace of the State and preventing of Rivers of civill Blood permits the Consciences of men will bee found to agree most punctually with the Rules of the best Politician that ever the World saw the King of Kings and Lord of Lords in comparison of whom Salomon himselfe had but a drop of wisedome compared to Christs Ocean and was but a Farthing Candle compared with the All and Ever glorious Son of Righteousnesse That absolute Rule of this great Politician for the peace of the Field which is the World and for the good and peace of the Saints who must have a civill being in the World I have discoursed of in his command of permitting the Tares that is Antichristians or false Christians to be in the Field of the World growing up together with the true Wheat true Christians CHAP. LXI Peace HIs third Answer is this For those three Princes named by you who tolerated Religion we can name you more and greater who have not tolerated Heretickes and Schismatickes notwithstanding their pretence of Conscience and their arrogating the Crowne of Martyrdome to their sufferings Constantine the Great at the request of the Generall Councell at Nice banished Arrius with some of his Fellowes Sozom. lib. 1. Eccles hist. cap 19 20. The same Constantine made a severe Law against the Donatists and the like proceedings against them were used by Valentinian Gratian and Theodosius as Augustine reports in Ep. 166. Onely Iulian the Apostate granted liberty to Heretickes as well as to Pagans that he might by tolerating all weeds to grow choake the vitals of Christianity which was also the practice and sinne of Valens the Arrian Queene Elizabeth as famous for her Government as most of the former it is well knowne what Lawes she made and executed against Papists yea and K. Iames one of your owne Witnesses though he was slow in proceeding against Papists as you say for Conscience sake yet you are not ignorant how sharply and severely he punished those whom the malignant World calls Puritans men of more Conscience and better Faith then the Papists whom he tolerated Truth Unto this I answer First that for mine owne part I would not use an argument from the number of Princes witnessing in profession of practice against Persecution for cause of Conscience for the truth and faith of the Lord Iesus must not bee received with respect of faces be they never so high princely and glorious Precious Pearles and Iewels and farre more precious Truth are found in muddy shells and places The rich Mines of golden Truth lye hid under barren hills and in obscure holes and corners The most High and Glorious God hath chosen the poore of the World and the Witnesses of Truth Rev. 11. are cloathed in sackcloth not in Silke or Sattin Cloth of Gold or Tissue and therefore I acknowledge if the number of Princes professing persecution bee considered it is rare to finde a King Prince or Governour like Christ Iesus the King of Kings and Prince of the Princes of the Earth and who tread not in the steps of Herod the Fox or Nero the Lyon openly or secretly persecuting the name of the Lord Iesus such were Saul Ieroboam Ahab though under a maske or pretence of the name of the God of Israel To that purpose was it a noble speech of Buchanan who lying on his death-bed sent this Item to King Iames Remember my humble service to his Majestie and tell him that Buchanan is going to a place where few Kings come CHAP. LXII Truth SEcondly I observe how inconsiderately I hope not willingly he passeth by the Reasons and Grounds urged by those three Princes for their practices for as for the bare examples of Kings or Princes they are but like shining Sands or guilded Rockes giving no solace to such as make wofull shipwrack on them In K. Iames his Speech he passeth by that Golden Maxime in Divinity that God never loves to plant his Church by Blood Secondly that Civill Obedience may be performed from the Papists Thirdly in his observation on Revel 20. that true and certaine note of a false Church to wit persecution The wicked are besiegers the faithfull are besieged In K. Steven of Poland his Speech hee passeth by the true difference betweene a Civill and a Spirituall Government I am said Steven a Civill Magistrate over the bodies of men not a spirituall over their soules Now to confound these is Babel and Jewish it is to seek for Moses and bring him from his grave which no man shall finde for God buried him in setting up a Nationall state or Church in a land of Canaan which the great Messiah abolished at his comming Thirdly he passeth by in the speech of the King of Bohemia that foundation in Grace and Nature to wit that Conscience ought not to be violated or forced and indeed it it is most true that a Soule or spirituall Rape is more abominable in Gods eye then to force and ravish the Bodies of all the Women in the World Secondly that most lamentably true experience of all Ages which that King observeth viz. that persecution for cause of Conscience hath ever proved pernicious being the causes of all those wonderfull innovations of or changes in the Principalities● and mightiest Kingdomes of Christendome He that reads the Records of Truth and Time with an impartiall eye shall finde this to be the Launcet that hath pierc'd the veines of Kings and Kingdomes of Saints and Sinners and fill'd the streames and Rivers with their blood Lastly that Kings observation of his own time viz. that Persecution for cause of Conscience was practised most in England and such places where Popery raigned implying as I conceive that such practises commonly proceed from that great whore the Church of Rome whose Daughters are like their Mother and all of a bloody nature as most commonly all Whores be CHAP. LXIII NOw thirdly in that the Answerer observeth that amongst the Romane Emperours they that did not persecute were Iulian the Apostate and Valens the Arrian whereas the good Emperours Constantine Gratian Valentinian and Theodosius they did persecute the Arrians Donatists c. Answ. It is no new thing for godly and eminently godly men
Iesus his command Magistrates are bound not to persecute and to see that none of their subjects be persecuted and oppressed for their conscience and worship being otherwise subject and peaceable in Civill Obedience CHAP. LXVII IN the second place I answer and aske what glory to God what good to the soules or bodies of their subjects shall Princes did these Princes bring in persecuting c. Peace Mr. Cotton tells us in his discourse upon the third Violl that Queene Elizabeth had almost fired the world in civill combustions by such her pe●secuting For though hee bring it in to another end yet he confesseth that it raised all Christendome in combustion raised the Warres of 88. and the Spanish Invasion and he addes both concerning the English Nation and the Dutch that if God had not born witnesse to his people and their Laws in defeating the intendments of their enemies against both the Nations it might have beene the ruine of them both Truth That those Lawes and Practices of Queene Elizabeth raised those combustions in Christendome I deny not That they might likely have cost the ruine of English and Dutch I grant That it was Gods gracious worke in defeating the Intendments of their enemies I thankfully acknowledge But that God bore witnesse to such persecutions and lawes for such persecutions I deny for First event and successe come alike to all and are no Arguments of love or hatred c. Secondly the Papists in their warres have ever yet had both in Peace and War victory and dominion and therefore if successe be the measure God hath borne witnesse unto them It is most true what Daniel in his 8. and 11. and 12. Chapters and Iohn in his Revel 11. 12. and 13. Chapters write of the great successe of Antichrist against Christ Iesus for a time appointed Successe was various betweene Charles the fift and some German Princes Philip of Spaine and the Low Countries The French King and his Protestant Subjects sometimes losing sometimes winning interchangeably But most memorable is the famous history of the Wald●nses and Albingenses those famous Witnesses of Iesus Christ who rising from Wald● at Lyons in France 1160. spread over France Italy Germany and almost all Countries into thousands and ten thousands making separation from the Pope and Church of Rome These fought many Battels with various successe and had the assistance and protection of divers great Princes against three succeeding Popes and their Armies but after mutuall slaughters and miseries to both sides the finall successe of victory fell to the Popedome and Romish Church in the utter extirpation of those famous Waldensian witnesses Gods servants are all overcommers when they war with Gods weapons in Gods cause and Worship and Revel 2. and 3. Chapters seven times is it recorded To him that overcommeth in Ephesus To him that overcommeth in Sardis c. and Revel 12. Gods servants overcame the Dragon or Devill in the Romane Emperours by three weapons The blood of the Lambe The word of their Testimony and The not loving of their lives unto the death CHAP. LXVIII Peace THe Answerer in the next place descends to the third and last Head of Arguments produced by the Authour taken from the judgement of ancient and later Writers yea even of the Papists themselves who have condemned persecution for conscience sake some of which the Answerer pleaseth to answer and thus writeth You begin with Hilarie whose testimony without prejudice to the Truth we may admit For it is true the Christian Church doth not persecute but is persecuted But to excommunicate an Hereticke is not to persecute that is it is not to punish an innocent but a culpable and damnable person and that not for conscience but for persisting in errour against light of conscience whereof he hath beene convinced Truth In this Answer here are two things First his confession of the same Truth affirmed by Hilarius to wit that the Christian Church doth not persecute but is persecuted su●ing wi●h that fo●eg●ing observation of King Iames from Rev. 20. Peace Yet to this he addes a colour thus which saith he wee may admit without prejudice to the truth Truth I answer if it bee a marke of the Christian Church to bee persecuted and of the Antichristian o● false Church to persecute then those Churches cannot be truly Christian according to the first institution which either actually themselves or by the Civill power of Kings and Princes given to them or procured by them to fight for them doe persecute such as dissent from them or be opposite against them Peace Yea but in the second place he addeth that to excommunicate an Heretick is not to persecute but to punish him for sinning against the light of his own conscience c. Truth I answer if this worthy Answerer were throughly awaked from the Spouses spirituall slumber Cant. 5. and had recovered from the drunkennesse of the great Whore who intoxicateth the Nations Revel 17. It is impossible that he should so answer for First who questioneth whether to excommunicate an Heretick this is an obstinate Gainsayer as we have opened the word upon Tit. 3. I say who questioneth whether that be to persecute Excommunication being of a spirituall nature a Sentence denounced by the Word of Christ Iesus the Spirituall King of his Church and a Spirituall killing by the most sharpe two-edged Sword of the Spirit in delivering up the person excommunicate to Sathan Therefore who sees not that his Answer comes not neere our Question Peace In the Answerers second conclusion in the entrance of this Discourse he proves persecution against an Heretick for sinning against his conscience and quotes Tit. 3. 10. which only proves as I have there made it evident a Spirituall rejecting or excommunicating from the Church of God and so comes not neer the question Here again he would prove Churches charged to be false because they persecute I say he would prove them not to be false because they persecute not for saith he Excommunication is not Persecution Whereas the Question is as the whole discourse and Hilaries own amplification of the matter in this speech and the practice of all Ages testifies whether it be not a false Church that doth persecute other Churches or Members opposing her in Spirituall and Church matter not by Excommunications but by imprisonments stocking whipping sining banishing hanging burning c. notwithstanding that such persons in Civill obedience and subjection are unreproveable Truth I conclude this passage with Hilarius and the Answerer That the Christian Church doth not persecute no more then a Lilie doth scratch the Thornes or a Lambe pursue and teare the ●olves or a Turtle dove hunt the Hawkes and Eagles or a chaste and modest Virgin fight and scratch like whores and harlots And for punishing the Heretick for sinning against his conscience after conviction which in the second conclusion he affirmeth to be by a
two Either the force of a material sword imprisoning the Soules of men in a State or Nationall Religion Ministery or Worship Or secondly Civill warres and combustions for Religion sake whereby men are immediately cut off without any longer meanes of Repentance Now againe for the Soules that are alive in Christ he hath graciously appointed Ordinances powerfully sufficient to maintaine and cherish that life Armour of proofe able to defend them against men and devils Secondly the Soule once alive in Christ is like Christ himselfe Revel 1. alive for ever Rom. 6. and cannot die a spirituall death Lastly Grant a man to be a false Teacher an Heretick a Balaam a Spirituall Witch a Wolfe a Persecuter breathing out blasphemies against Christ and slaughters against his followers as Paul did Act. 9. I say these who appeare Soule-killers to day by the grace of Christ may prove as Paul Soule-savers to morrow and saith Paul to Timothy 1 Tim. 4. thou shalt save thy selfe and them that heare thee which all must necessarily be prevented if all that comes within the sense of these Soule-killers must as guilty of blood be corporally kill'd and put to death CHAP. LXVI Peace DEare Truth your Answers are so satisfactorie to Austins speech that if Austin himselfe were now living me thinkes he should be of your mind I pray descend to Optatus who saith the Answerer justifies Macharius for putting some Hereticks to death affirming that he had done no more herein then what Moses Phineas and Elias had done before him Truth Th●se are shafts usually drawne from the Quiver of the Ceremoniall and typicall state of the Nationall Church of the Iewes whose shadowish and figurative state vanished at the appearing of the Body and substance the Sun of Righteousnesse who set up another Kingdome or Church Heb. 12. Ministrie and Worship in which we finde no such Ordinance precept or president of killing men by Materiall Swords for Religion sake More particularly concerning Moses I quaerie what commandement or practice of Moses either Optatus or the Answerer here intend Probably that passage of Deut. 13. wherein Moses appointed a slaughter either of a person or a city that should depart from the God of Israel with whom that Nationall Church was in Covenant And if so I shall particularly reply to that place in my Answer to the Reasons hereunder mentioned Concerning Phineas his zealous Act First his slaying of the Israelitish man and woman of Midian was not for spirituall but corporall filthines Secondly no man will produce his fact as presidentiall to any Minister of the Gospel so to act in any Civill state or Commonweale although I believe in the Church of God it is presidentiall for either Minister or people to kill and slay with the two-edged sword of the Spirit of God any such bold and open presumptuous sinners as these were Lastly concerning Eliah There were two famous acts of Eliah of a killing nature First that of slaying 850 of Baals Prophets 1 Kings 18. Secondly of the two Captaines and their Fifties by fire c. For the first of these it cannot figure or type out any materiall slaughter of the many thousands of false Prophets in the World by any materiall sword of Iron or Steele for as that passage was miraculous so finde we not any such commission given by the Lord Iesus to the Ministers of the Gospel And lastly such a slaughter must not only extend to all the false prophets in the World but according to the Answerers grounds to the many thousands of thousands of Idolaters and false worshippers in the Kingdomes and Nations of the World For the second Act of Eliah as it was also of a miraculous nature So secondly when the followers of the Lord Iesus Luc. 9. proposed such a practice to the Lord Iesus for injury offered to his owne person he disclaimed it with a milde checke to their angry spirits telling them plainly they knew not what spirits they were of and addeth that gentle and mercifull conclusion That he came not to destroy the bodies of men as contrarily Antichrist doth alledging these instances from the Old Testament as also Peters killing Anania● Acts 5. and Peters vision and voice Arise Peter kill and eat Acts. 10. CHAP. LXXVII Peace YOu have so satisfied these instances brought by Optatus that me thinks Optatus and the Answerer himself might rest satisfied I will not trouble you with Bernards argument from Rom. 13. which you have already on that Scripture so largely answered But what thinke you lastly of Calvin Beza and Aretius Truth Ans. Since matters of fact and opinion are barely related by the Answerer without their grounds whose grounds notwithstanding in this Discourse are answered I answer if Paul himself were joyned with them yea or an Angel from Heaven bringing any other rule then what the Lord Jesus hath once delivered we have Pauls conclusion and resolution peremptory and dreadfull Gal. 1. 8. Peace This passage finished let me finish the whole by proposing one conclusion of the Author of the arguments viz. It is no prejudice to the Commonwealth if Liberty of Conscience were suffered to such as feare God indeed Abraham abode a long time amongst the Cananites yet contrary to them in Religion Gen. 13. 7. 16. 13. Againe he s●journed in Gerar and King Abimel●ch gave him leave to abide in his Land Gen. 20. 21. 23. 24. Isaack also dwelt in the same Land yet contrary in Religion Gen. 26. Iacob lived 20 yeares in one house with his Unkle Laban yet differed in Religion Gen. 31. The people of Israel were about 430 yeares in that infamous land of Egypt and afterwards 70 yeares in Babylon all which times they differed in Religion from the States Exod. 12. 2 Chron. 36. Come to the time of Christ where Israel was under the Romanes where lived divers Sects of Religion as Herodians Scribes and Pharises Saduces and Libertines Theudaeans and Samaritanes beside the Common Religion of the Jews Christ and his Apostles All which differed from the Common Religion of the State which was like the Worship of Diana which almost the whole World then worshipped Acts 19. 20. All these lived under the Government of Caesar being nothing hurtfull unto the Commonwealth giving unto Caesar that which was his And for their Religion and Consciences towards God he left them to themselves as having no dominion over their Soules and Consciences And when the Enemies of the Truth raised up any tumults the wisedome of the Magistrate most wisely appeased them Acts 18 14. 19. 35. Unto this the Answerer returnes thus much It is true that without prejudice to the Common-wealth Libertie of Conscience may be suffered to such as feare God indeed as knowing they will not persist in Heresie or turbulent Schisme when they are convinced in Conscience of the sinfulnes thereof But the question is whether an Heretick after once or twice Admonition and so after
forth to preach by his supreme power and the Magistrate by his power subordinate to gather Churches CHAP. CIV Peace YOu have taken great paines to shew the irreconciliablenesse of those their two assertions viz. First there is now no Ministry as they say but what is mediat from the Church and yet secondly Christ Jesus sends Preachers forth by his supreme power to gather the Church I now wait to heare how as they say the Magistrate may send forth by his power subordinate to gather Churches enforcing the people to heare c. Truth If there be a Ministry sent forth by Christs supreme power and a Ministry sent forth by the Magistrates subordinate power to gather Churches I aske what is the difference between these two Is there any gathering of Churches but by that commission Mat. 28. Teach and baptize And is the civill Magistrate intrusted with a power from Christ as his Deputy to give this commission and so to send out Ministers to preach and baptize As there is nothing in the Testament of Christ concerning such a delegation or assignment of such power of Christ to the civill Magistrate So I also ask since in every free State civill Magistrates have no more power but what the people 's of those States Lands and Countries betrust them with whether or no by this meanes it must not follow that Christ Iesus hath left with the Peoples and Nations of the World his Spirituall Kingly power to grant commissions and send out Ministers to themselves to preach convert and baptize themselves How inevitably this followes upon their conclusion of power in Magistrates to send c. and what unchristian and unreasonable consequences must flow from hence let all consider in the feare of God Iehosaphats sending forth the Levites to teach in Iudah c. as they alledge it not so elsewhere it shall more fully appeare to be a type and figure of Christ Iesus the only King of his Church providing for the feeding of his Church and People by his true Christian Priests and Levites viz. The Ministry which in the Gospel he hath appointed CHAP. CV Peace VVE have examined the Ministry be pleased deare Truth to speake to the second branch of this head viz. the maintenance of it They affirme that the Magistrate may force out the Ministers maintenance from all that are taught by them and that after the patterne of Israel and the argument from 1 Cor. 9. Gal. 6. 6. Truth This theame viz. concerning the maintenance of the Priests and Ministers of worship is indeed the Apple of the Eye the Dianah of the Dianah c. yet all that love Christ Jesus in sincerity and soules in and from him will readily professe to abhorre filthy lucre Tit. 1. and the wages of Balaam both more common and frequent then easily is discernable To that Scripture Gal. 6. 6. Let him that is taught in the Word make him that teacheth partaker of all his goods I answer That teaching was of persons converted beleevers entred into the Schoole and Family of Christ the Church which Church being rightly gathered is also rightly invested with the power of the Lord Iesus to force every soule therein by spirituall weapons and penalties to doe its duty But this forcing of the Magistrate is intended and practised to all sorts of persons without as well as within the Church unconverted naturall and dead in sinne as well as those that live and feeding enjoy the benefit of spirituall food Now for those sorts of persons to whom Christ Iesus sends his Word out of Church estate Iewes or Gentiles according to the Parable of Math. 13. high-way hearers stony ground and thorny ground hearers wee never finde title of any maintenance to bee expected least of all to bee forced and exacted from them By civill power they cannot be forced for it is no civill payment or businesse no matter of Caesar but concerning God nor by spirituall power which hath nothing to doe with those which are without 1. Cor. 5. It is reasonable to expect and demand of such as live within the state a civill maintenance of their civill officers and to force it where it is denyed It is reasonable for a Schoole-master to demand his recompence for his labour in his Schoole but it is not reasonable to expect or force it from stranges enemies rebels to that City from such as come not within or else would not bee received into the Schoole What is the Church of Christ Iesus but the City the School● and Family of Christ the Officers of this City Schoole Family may reasonably expect maintenance from such they minister unto but not from strangers enemies c. Peace It is most true that sinne goes in a linke for that tenent that all the men of the world may bee compelled to heare Christ preach and enjoy the labours of the Teacher as well as the Church it selfe forceth on another also as evill viz. that they should also be compelled to pay as being most equall and reasonable to pay for their conversion Truth Some use to urge that Text of Luc. 14. Compell them to come in Compell them to Masse say the Papists compell them to Church and Common prayer say the Protestants Compell them to the Meeting say the New English In all these compulsions they disagree amongst themselves but in this viz. Compell them to pay in this they all agree There is a double violence which both Errour and Falshood use to the soules of men First morall and perswasive such was the perswasion first used to Ioseph by his Mistris such was the perswasions of Tamar from Ammon such was the compelling of the young man by the Harlot Prov. 7. shee caught him by her much faire speech and kisses And thus is the whole world compelled to the worship of the Golden Image Dan. 3. The second Compulsion is civill such as Iosephs Mistris began to practise upon Ioseph to attaine her whorish desires Such as Ammon practised on Tamar to satisfie his brutish lust And such was Nabuchadnezzars second compulsion his fiery Furnace Dan. 3. and mysticall Nabuchadnezzars killing all that receive not his marke Rev. 13. The first sort of these violences to wit by powerfull argument and perswasion the Ministers of the Gospel also use Hence all those powerfull perswasions of Wisedomes Maidens Pro. 9. Hence saith Paul knowing the terrour of the Lord we perswade men 2 Cor. 5. and pull some out of the fire saith Iud● such must that compulsion be Luc. 14. viz. the powerfull perswasions of the word being that two-edged sword comming out of the mouth of Christ Iesus in his true Ministers sent forth to invite poore sinners to partake of the Feast of the Lambe of God The civill Ministers of the Commonweale cannot be sent upon this businesse with their civill weapons and compulsions but the spirituall Minister of the Gospel with his spirituall sword of
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And it is well knowne that remissenes in Princes of Christendome in matters of Religion and Worship divolving the care thereof only to the Clergy and so setting the Hornes thereof upon the Churches head hath been the cause of Antichristian inventions usurpations and corruptions in the Worship and Temple of God Secondly they have not power to presse upon the Churches stinted Prayers o● set Liturgies whether New or Old Popish or others under colour of uniformity of Worship or morall goodnesse of them both for matter and forme conceiving our arguments sent to our Brethren in England concerning this Question to evince this Truth Thirdly they have no power to presse upon the Churches neither by Law as hath been said before nor by Proclamation and command any sacred significant ceremonies whether more or lesse Popish or Jewish rite or any other device of man be it never so little in the worship of God under what colour soever of indifferencie civility using them without opinion of s●nctity publicke peace or obedience to righteous Authority as Surplice Crosse kneeling at Sacrament Salt and Spitle in Baptisme Holy dayes They having beene so accursed of God so abused by man the imposing of some ever making way for the urging of more the receiving of some making the conscience bow to the burthen of all Fourthly they have not power to governe and rule the acts of worship in the Church of God It is with a Magistrate in a State in respect of the acts of those who worship in a Church as it is with a Prince in a Ship wherein though he be governour of their persons else he should not be their Prince yet is not governour of the actions of the Ma●iners then he should be Pilot Indeed if the Pilot shall manifestly erre in his action he may reprove him and so any other passenger may Or if he offend against the life and goods of any he may in due time and place civilly punish him which no other passenger can doe For it is proper to Christ the Head of the Church as to prescribe so to rule the actions of his own worship in the wayes of his servants Esay 96 7. The government of the Church is upon his shoulder which no Civill officer ought to attempt And therefore Magistrates have no power to limit a Minister either to what he shall preach or pray or in what manner they shall worship God lest hereby they shall advance themselves above Christ and limit his Spirit Truth In this generall Head are proposed two things First what the Magistrate ought to doe positively concerning the worship of God Secondly what he may doe in the worship of God What he ought to doe is comprised in these particulars First he ought to reforme the worship of God when it is corrupted Secondly he ought to establish a pure worship of God Thirdly he ought to defend it by the sword he ought to restrain Idolatry by the sword and to cut off offendours as former passages have opened For the proofe of this positive part of his duty are propounded three sorts of Scriptures First from the practice of the Kings of Israel and Iudah Secondly some from the New Testament Thirdly from the practice of Kings of other Nations Unto which I answer First concerning this latter the Babylonian and Persian Kings Nebuchadnezzar Cyrus Darius Artaxerxes I conceive I have sufficiently before proved that these Idolatrous Princes making such Acts concerning the God of Israel whom they did not worship nor know nor meant so to doe did onely permit and tolerate and countenance the Iewish worship and out of strong convictions that this God of Israel was able to doe them good as well as their owne gods to bring wrath upon them and their Kingdomes as they beleeved their owne also did in which respect all the Kings of the world may be easily brought to the like but are no president or patternes for all Princes and Civill Magistrates in the World to chalenge or 〈◊〉 the power of ruling or governing the Church of Christ and of wearing the spirituall Crowne of the Lord which he alone weareth in a spirituall way by his Officers and Governours after his owne holy appointment Secondly for those of the New Testament I have as I beleeve fully and sufficiently answered So also that prophesie of Isa. 49. Lastly however I have often touched those Scriptures produced from the practice of the Kings of Israel and Judah yet because so great a waeight of this controversie lyes upon this president of the Old Testament from the duties of this nature enjoyned to those Kings and Governours and their practices obeying or disobeying accordingly commended or reproved I shall with the helpe of Christ Iesus the true King of Israel declare and demonstrate how weake and brittle this supposed Pillar of Marble is to beare up and sustain such a mighty burthen and waight of so many high concernments as are laid upon it In which I shall evidently prove that the state of Israel as a Nationall State made up of Spirituall and Civill power so farre as it attended upon the spirituall was meerly figurative and typing out the Christian Churches consisting of both Iewes and Gentiles enjoying the true power of the Lord Iesus establishing reforming correcting defending in all cases concerning his Kingdome and Government CHAP. CX Peace BLessed be the God of Truth the God of Peace who hath so long preserved us in this our retired conference without interruptions His mercy still shields us while you expresse and I listen to that so much imitated yet most unimitable State of Israel Yet before you descend to particulars deare Truth let me cast one Mite into your great Treasury concerning that Instance just now mentioned of the Persian Kings Me thinkes those presidents of Cyrus Darius and Artaxerxes are strong against New Englands Tenent and practice Those Princes professedly gave free permission and bountifull incouragement to the Consciences of the Iewes to use and practise their Religion which Religion was most eminently contrary to their owne Religion and their Countries worship Truth I shall sweet Peace with more delight passe on these rough wayes from your kinde acceptance and unwearied patience in attention In this discovery of that vast and mighty difference betweene that State of Israel and all other States onely to bee matched and parallel'd by the Christian Church or Israel I shall select some maine and principall considerations concerning that State wherein the irreconciliable differences and disproportion may appeare First I shall consider the very Land and Country of Canaan it selfe and present some considerations proving it to be a None● such First this Land was espyed out and chosen by the Lord out of all the Countries of the World to be the seat of his Church and people Ezek. 20●6 But now there is no respect of Earth of Places or Countries with the Lord So testified the Lord Iesus Christ himselfe
doubtlesse so farre as they have gone they bid the most and make the fairest plea for the puritie and power of Christ Iesus let the rest of the Inhabitants of the World be Judges Let all the former well be viewed in their externall State pomp riches conformitie to the World c. And on the other side let the latter be considered in their more through departure from sinne and sinfull Worship their condescending generally to the lowest and meanest contentments of this life their exposing of themselves for Christ to greater sufferings and their desiring no Civill sword nor Arme of Flesh but the two-edged sword of Gods Spirit to try out the matter by and then let the Inhabitants of the World judge which come neerest to the doctrine holines povertie patience and practice of the Lord Jesus Christ and whether or no these later deserve not so much of Humanitie and the Subjects Libertie as not offending the Civill State in the freedome of their Soules to enjoy the common aire to breath in CHAP. CXX Peace DEare Truth you have shewne me a little draught of Zions sorrowes her children tearing out their mothers bowels O when will Hee that stablisheth comforteth and builds up Zion looke downe from Heaven and have mercy on her c. Truth The Vision yet doth tarry saith Habacuk but will most surely come and therefore the patient and believing must wait for it But to your last Proposition whether the Kings of Israel and Judah were not types of Civill Magistrates now I suppose by what hath been already spoken these things will be evident First that those former types of the Land of the People of their Worships were types and figures of a spirituall Land spirituall People and spirituall Worship under Christ. Therefore consequently their Saviours Redeemers Deliverers Iudges Kings must also have their spirituall Antitypes and so consequently not civill but spirituall Governours and Rulers lest the very essentiall nature of Types Figures and Shadowes be overthrow●e Secondly although the Magistrate by a Civill sword might well compell that Nationall Church to the externall exercise of their Naturall Worship yet it is not possible according to the rule of the New Testament to compell whole Nations to true Repentance and Regeneration without which so farre as may be discerned true the Worship and holy Name of God is prophaned and blasphemed An Arme of Flesh and Sword of Steele cannot reach to cut the darknesse of the Mind the hardnesse and unbeleefe of the Heart and kindely operate upon the Soules affections to forsake a long continued Fathers worship and to imbrace a new though the best and truest This worke performes alone that sword out of the mouth of Christ with two edges Rev. 1. 3. Thirdly we have not one tittle in the New Testament of Christ Iesus concerning such a parallel neither from Himselfe nor from his Ministers with whom he conversed fourty dayes after his Resurrection instructing them in the matters of his Kingdome Acts 1. Neither find we any such commission or direction given to the Civill Magistrate to this purpose nor to the Saints for their submission in matters spirituall but the contrary Acts 4. 5. 1 Cor. 7. 23. Coloss. 2. 18. Fourthly we have formerly viewed the very nature and essence of a Civill Magistrate and find it the same in all parts of the World where ever people live upon the face of the Earth agreeing together in Townes Cities Provinces Kingdomes I say the same essentially Civill both from 1. the rise and fountaine whence it springs to wit the p●●ples choice and free consent 2. The Object of it viz. the common-weale or safety of such a people in their bodies and goods as the Authours of this Modell have themselves confessed This civill Nature of the Magistrate we have proved to receive no addition of power from the Magistrates being a Christian no more then it receives diminution from his not being a Christian even as the Common-weale is a true Common-weale although it have not heard of Christianitie and Christianitie professed in it as in Pergamus Ephesus c. makes it ne're no more a Commonweale and Christianitie taken away and the candlestick removed makes it ne're the lesse a Commonweale Fifthly the Spirit of God expresly relates the worke of the civill Magistrate under the Gospel Rom. 13. expresly mentioning as the Magistrates object the duties of the second Table concerning the bodies and goods of the subject 2. The reward or wages which people owe for such a worke to wit not the contribution of the Church for any spirituall work but tribute toll custome which are wages payable by all sorts of men Natives and Forreigners who enjoy the same benefit of publick peace and commerce in the Nation Sixthly Since the civill Magistrate whether Kings or Parliaments States and Governours can receive no more in justice then what the People give and are therefore but the eyes and hands and instruments of the people simply considered without respect to this or that Religion it must inevitably follow as formerly I have touched that if Magistrates have received their power from the people then the greatest number of the people of every Land have received from Christ Iesus a power to establish correct reforme his Saints and servants his wife and spowse the Church And she that by the expresse word of the Lord Psal. 149. binds Kings in chaines and Nobles in links of iron must her selfe be subject to the changeable pleasures of the people of the World which lies in wickednesse 1 Iohn 5. even in matters of Heavenly and spirituall Nature Hence therefore in all controversie concerning the Church Ministrie and worship the last Appeale must come to the Bar of the People or Commonweal where all may personally meet as in some Commonweales of small number or in greater by their Representatives Hence then no person esteemed a beleever and added to the Church No Officer chosen and ordained No person cast forth and excommunicated but as the Common-weale and people please and in conclusion no Church of Christ in this Land or World and consequently no visibly Christ the Head of it Yea yet higher consequently no God in the World worshipped according to the institutions of Christ Jesus except the severall peoples of the Nations of the World shall give allowance Peace Deare Truth Oh whither have our Forefathers and teachers led us higher then to God himselfe by these doctrines driven out of the World you cannot rise and yet so high must the inevitable and undeniable consequences of these their doctrines reach if men walke by their owne common Principles Truth I may therefore here seasonably adde a seventh which is a necessary consequence of all the former Arguments and an Argument it selfe viz. we finde expresly a spirituall power of Christ Iesus in the hands of his Saints Ministers and Churches to bee the true Antitype of those
beleeve in conscience to be the truth or for practising some worke which you beleeve in conscience to be a religious dutie Truth I acknowledge that to molest any person Iew or Gentile for either professing doctrine or practising worship meerly religious or spirituall it is to persecute him and such a person what ever his doctrine or practice be true or false suffereth persecution for conscience But withall I desire it may bee well observed that this distinction is not full and complete For beside this that a man may be persecuted because he holdeth or practiseth what he beleeves in conscience to be a Truth as Daniel did for which he was cast into the Lyons den Dan. 6. and many thousands of Christians because they durst not cease to preach and practise what they beleeved was by Go● commanded as the Apostles answered Acts 4 5. I say besides this a man may also be persecuted because hee dares not be constrained to yeeld obedience to such doctrines and worships as are by men invented and appointed So the three famous Iewes were cast into the fiery furnace for refusing to fall downe in a non-conformity to the whole conforming world before the golden Image Dan. 3. 21. So thousands of Christs witnesses and of late in those bloudy Marian dayes have rather chose to yeeld their bodies to all sorts of torments then to subscribe to doctrines or practise worships unto which the States and Times as Nabuchadnezzar to his golden Image have compelled and urged them A chaste wife will not onely abhorre to be restrained from her husbands bed as adulterous and polluted but also abhor if not much more to bee constrained to the bed of a stranger And what is abominable in corporall is much more loathsome in spirituall whoredome and defilement The Spouse of Christ Iesus who could not finde her soules beloved in the wayes of his worship and Ministery Cant. 1. 3. and 5. Chapters abhorred to turne aside to other Flockes Worships c. and to imbrace the bosome of a false Christ Cant. 1. 8. CHAP. IV. Peace THe second distinction is this In points of Doctrine some are fundamentall without right beleefe whereof a man cannot be saved others are circumstantiall and lesse principall wherein a man may differ in judgement without prejudice of salvation on either part Truth To this distinction I dare not subscribe for then I should everlastingly condemne thousands and ten thousands yea the whole generation of the righteous who since the falling away from the first primitive Christian state or worship have and doe erre fundamentally concerning the true matter constitution gathering and governing of the Church and yet farre be it from any pious breast to imagine that they are not saved and that their soules are not bound up in the bundle of eternall life We reade of foure sorts of spirituall or Christian foundations in the New Testaments First the Foundation of all foundations the Corner-stone it selfe the Lord Iesus on whom all depend Persons Doctrines Practices 1. Cor. 3. 2. Ministriall foundations The Church is built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets Ephel 2. 20. 3. The foundation of future rejoycing in the fruits of Obedience 1 Tim. 6. 4. The foundation of Doctrines without the knowledge of which there can be no true profession of Christ according to the first institution Heb. 6. The foundation or principles of Repentance from dead works Faith towards God the Doctrine of Baptisme Laying on of Hands the Resurrection and Eternall Iudgement In some of these to wit those concerning Baptismes Laying on of Hands Gods people will be found to be ignorant for many hundred yeares and I yet cannot see it proved that light is risen I mean the light of the first institution in practice Gods people in their persons Heart-waking Cant. 5. 2. in the life of personall grace will yet be found fast asleep in respect of publike Christian Worship Gods people in their persons are His most deare and precious yet in respect of the Christian Worship they are mingled amongst the Babylonians from whence they are called to come out not locally as some have said for that belonged to a materiall and locall Babell and literall Babell and Ierusalem have now no difference Iohn 4. 21. but spiritually and mystically to come out from her sins and Abominations If Mr. Cotton maintaine the true Church of Christ to consist of the true matter of holy persons call'd out from the World and the true forme of Vnion in a Church Covenant And that also neither Nationall Provinciall nor Diocesan Churches are of Christs institution how many Thousands of Gods people of all sorts Clergie and Laitie as they call them will they finde both in former and later times captivated in such Nationall Provinciall and Diocesan Churches yea and so far from living in yea or knowing of any such Churches for matter and forme as they conceive now only to be true that untill of late yeares how few of Gods people knew any other Church then the Parish Church of dead stones or timber It being a late marvailous light revealed by Christ Iesus the Sun of Righteousnesse that his people are a Company or Church of living stones 1 Pet. 2 9. And however his own Soule and the soules of many others precious to God are perswaded to separate from Nationall Provinciall and Diocesan Churches and to assemble into particular Churches yet since there are no Parish Churches in England but what are made up of the Parish bounds within such and such a compasse of houses and that such Churches have beene and are in constant dependance on and subordination to the Nationall Church how can the New-English particular Churches joyne with the Old English Parish Churches in so many Ordinances of Word Prayer Singing Contribution c. but they must needs confesse that as yet their Soules are farre from the knowledge of the foundation of a true Christian Church whose matter must not only be living stones but also separated from the rubbish of Antichristian confusions and desolations CHAP. V. Peace WIth lamentation I may adde How can their Soules be cleare in this foundation of the true Christian matter who persecute and oppresse their own acknowledged Brethren presenting Light unto them about this Point But I shall now present you with Mr. Cottons third distinction In point of Practice saith he some concerne the weightier duties of the Law as What God we worship and with what kind of Worship whether such as if it be Right fellowship with God is held if false fellowship with God is lost Truth It is worth the inquirie what kind of Worship he intendeth for Worship is of various signification whether in generall acceptation he meane the rightnesse or corruptnesse of the Church or the Ministry of the Church or the Ministrations of the Word Prayer Seales c. And because it pleaseth the Spirit