as vnto all mē declare their misbehauiour straight with the presence of the spirite cloke of zeale they haue laboured to shroude this so great impietie For hereupō it ensued that the Romanistes so cloyed the church with their fond festiuals leud Legendes and so stuffed into the seruice of God such store of idle reuelations and vnnecessary visions that by the reading of them openly in the congregation the holy and canonicall wrightinges of the holy ghost were wholy abandoned and cleane cast out of the dores And this was that which the Anabaptistes and other heretiques haue practised which when they had no witnes or warrant from the written word and approued truth of God they forged straunge euidence and that which with blasphemie they inuented they vttered with vntruth For being demaūded the ground of their misdemeanour they aunswered The spirite thus commaundeth me and thus the Father hath sayd so that when they wanted the worde they boasted of the spirite and affirmed that they had their doctrine from heauen reuealed vnto them This might by the inducing of many examples be proued to be true and the historyes of them who haue noted their behauiour are many and manifest Onely the testimonies of those learned men which were acquainted with their dealinges shall vnto the indifferent reader be sufficient for proofe of that which we haue in hand Vnto the which assertions of the Papistes and Anabaptistes with the Libertines lykewise if Henrye Nicholas should be added which in plainer wordes vttereth more pestilent impietye their messe shall be the fuller and the conuenticle of them more conuenient vpon the which the iudgements of God should fall in greater measure seing they all haue bene partakers fellow laborers in forging so great a heape of confusion to set vp the same agaynst the truth of God. To proue that HN. is guiltye of the inditement wherewith I burthen him vz. That he is a coyner of reuelations my allegations are two first his owne wordes vz. That the Lord reueiled it vnto him out of Sion and declared it out of the heauenly Ierusalem Secondly the places of Scripture by him misaleaged to quote and cōfirme this his dotage wherein he will not onely be offensiue to men but to the Lord also very wickedly iniurious As for his wordes the which are prefixed before this Article therin he claimeth vnto himselfe a more notable prerogatiue thē any mā liuing durst euer thinke or once imagine of For whereas it hath ben an onely especiall thing which properly appertained vnto such as haue ben singularly beloued of the Lord vnto whom God hath shewed himselfe in more notable measure as vnto Abraham Moses Iosua Gedeon Esay Ezechiel and the rest of the heauenly prophets and holy Apostles of Christ whome the Lord had before adioyned to more excellent functions and put them aside for some notable and extraordinarye ministration vnto those the Lord hath more clearely discouered himselfe and reuealed his countenaunce and in a greater measure opened and set abroad the brightnes of his glory yet vnto none so far at any time as HN. boasteth of hath hapned vnto him that he should be codeified with God in the spirite of his loue made heire with Christ in the heauenly treasures of the riches of God. The which great and wonderfull claime as it farre surpasseth all that euer any of the Prophets durst chalenge vnto themselues so doth HN. herein very impudētly boast and blasphemously arrogate more vnto himselfe then euer belonged vnto any mortall man the son of God excepted The which his vaine challenge as it is taken on by him with an harlots forehead so hath he no specialtye to shew that can warantiz him therein but onely the vngodly behauiour of the aūtient heretiques which by their furious fantasies and vaine imaginations haue made a diuorce betwixt the spirite and the written word of God which alwayes are enlinked together so that the one of them is neuer seperate from the other In the which poynt as he hath dealt very vnlearnedly and vnskilfully before men so hath he behaued himselfe very vnthākfull towardes the word of God which before might haue ben vnto him a sufficient caueat for that it termeth such reuelations and Prophesies as his are but lying visions whereof none haue so much bragged as the false Apostles But if here HN. his disciples shall reply that their Eldest Father doth confirme that reuelatiōs are sent frō God to him by the written word of the Canonicall scripture then I aunswere that herein resteth the triall that HN. is a lying seer and a seducing Prophet which may more easely appeare if the places which he alledgeth for the profe of his fained reuelations import no such thing as he doth father vppon them As for the first place which is To the which Elders and Fathers God hath reueiled his word in the day of Loue There is not any one place quoted for confirmation of it neither with Gods people will a mans bare worde be of sufficient warrant to countenaunce and confirme any thing Scripture it is that is the true rule and euen ballaunce wherein Gods marchandise must be peised This selfe same thing A godly and learned Father hath soundly proued when he sayth Let it not be sayd this say I and this thou sayst but this the holy Ghost sayth And agayne Taceant voces humanae loquantur diuinae ede mihi vel vnam scripturam pro parte Donati Let mens wordes be silent let Gods voyce be heard shew me but one text of scripture which defendeth Donatus assertion Right so say I set aside the persons of the speakers let vs sift and examine that which is spoken shew me but one text of scripture truely cited for the profe of HN. his doctrine As for this profe affirmations without ground and miracles without the worde as HN. doth commonly vse thē so is his vse not commendable The second place testifieth that God hath reuealed his true being vnto HN. out of Sion and Ierusalem Esa. 2. a. Mich. 2. a. 2. Pet. 1. b. Wherein he depraueth the sence of the holy Prophets in wresting that into an allegorye of the Celestiall Ierusalem which is ment of the Terestriall and earthly but this his fond exposition is more playne in an other place in these wordes HN. doth declare the same misterie of the riches of God agayne vpō the earth and minister the selfe same liuing word which is the very true light haue out of the heauenly Ierusalem to a testimonye of the truth receiued from Gods owne mouth c. And in an other place he sayth that this opening of Gods misteries is come vnto him out of the hyest heauen So that here it is very plainely to be sene that he abuseth the scripture and peruerteth the sence therof by turning the truth of a déede done in a place materiall into a heauenly and spirituall vision whereas the sence of the
handled more at large And though that those which know not Theophilus bringing vp may by vnséemely and vnciuile speach thinke it to haue ben very rude in that at the first stoppe he breatheth out into this homely phrase that is vntrue and ye vtterly shame your selfe yet being somewhat acquainted and hauing as his phrase is an experimentall knowledge of his modestie I toke him better then he meaneth not measuring him by his owne elwand For I wot well it alwayes will be truth that the ould Oratour sayth to his frend Qui semel vericundiae fines transiliuerit c. He that once hath raunged without the listes of honestye he without all hoe must néedes be impudent To proue that I haue vnderstode amisse and falsified HN. his meaning in my places which I haue set downe Theophilus referreth me to the Lamentable complaint to the same sect which I quoted before thinking belike the if I looked againe I should finde it otherwise in the section 6.7 The words that I misliked in that place are these Euen as partely that same is well knowen and become manifest vnto vs of certaine namely of those which are the auncientest in the scripturlearnednes or principallest in the Ceremonye seruice which haue made vp themselues agaynst the truth of Gods testimonies and his promises agaynst the holy spirite of Christ and agaynst the Loue c. This place whome HN. in playne wordes auoucheth that the Auncientest that is the Bishops and reuerend Fathers and preachers of the word in the Scripture learnednes the principallest in the Ceremonye seruice c. is that wherewith I charged him The same is more euidently also to be sene 1. Exhor cap. 15. sentence 8. and 10. c. which is a slaunderous and a blasphemous section which because it is tedious I refraine to set downe verbatim after HN. his copie And Chapt. 16. sent 3. For certaine take in hand vse out of the imagination of the knowledge whereon they set their hartes at peace false God seruices which they notwithstandyng institute or bryng in for true God seruices Religions Lawes and Commaundementes of God and plant the same knowledge into the people as though they ought of right to be obedient thereunto And sent 14. Dare any man teach or set forth any thyng through the imagination of the knowledge whether he then haue taken on the same out of the learnednesse of the Scriptures or out of his good thinking wisedome as a word or Commaundement of the Lord or yet to institute any seruices out of the letter of the Scripture accordyng to his good thinking and so to plucke or make subiect the hartes of men to dissention thereunder c. sent 15. 16. By all the which places it is manifest what opinion he hath of the preachyng of Gods word that it is but an institute knowledge inuented by mans wit to the bredyng of discord dissētion then the which I say not what Papist what Atheist or Macheuile in the world could write or inuent any thyng more vngodly Besides this I am able to auouch by myne own experiēce that some with whō I haue conferred which haue affirmed that the Scripture is to hard for a simple mā and therfore the bookes of HN. do make a more easie passage and geue a readyer way to the vnderstandyng therof In somuch as when that the Elders haue perswaded any man to become their sectarie they haue for a tyme taken all the bookes of holy Scriptures from him and all other bookes altogether and geue him the bookes of HN. to meditate and be exercised in and this is that which HN. him selfe exhorteth them after this sort Glasse your beyng and minde in the glasse of righteousnes Iam. 1. c. and behold therein how many spottes and wrinkles there are yet in you Wherein he sheweth that he preferreth his booke which he termeth the Glasse of righteousnesse before the word of God in referryng them thereunto for to espy the spottes of sinne cleane contrary to the word of God which teacheth vs that the knowledge of sinne commeth by the law And this he doth not in this place alone but also almost at the end of euery Chapter in his Euang. This horrible treason agaynst God and his word as it would make any Christian hart to melt so is it not for the manifest impietie therof by many argumentes or places so much to be confuted as by the losse of the lyues of such gracelesse Atheistes to be chastised which the sooner shall stay if those to whom the Lord hath committed the care of his Church and gouernaunce of this commō wealth shal by some waight of seuere and sharpe lawes kéepe vnder so horrible impietie and blasphemy agaynst the sonne of god For herein is the infection more pestilent that the bookes of HN. beyng made of equall countenaunce with the word of God the writynges of HN. are receiued as a playne and easie truth the word of God either wholy abandoned and set aside or els read by the ouersight and allowance of their Elders who often tyme dust the beames of the truth by their vayne Allegories and idle Expositions But this is the iudgement of God which is iustly in great measure come vpon vs that whilest diuers of the ministers of the word haue not preached the word as the word of God and the people haue heard it as the word of man it is come to passe I say that our eyes are blynded least we should sée and our eares waxed deafe least we should heare our hartes are waxed dull least we should beleue and so the secret though iust punishment of hardnes of hart is come vpon vs so that thereby euery day we are nearer hell then other For what wickednes can be compared with this or what blasphemie hath the world euer bene witnes of the like that the fonde nature of our flesh as a swift streame hath caryed vs to the depth of such impietie that we should loade and burthen the blessed word of the eternall God with such intemperate and graceles tauntes as to doubt whether the truth be the truth or no. Well I say no more but he that is filthy let him be filthy still And that Argument which S. Paule thinketh to be of such weight to proue his preachyng to haue bene the vndoubted truth of God the same would I vse to perswade all such as wauer in the truth therof Proue your selues whether ye are in the fayth examine your selues knowe ye not your owne selues how that Iesus Christ is in you except ye be cast awayes c. Wherein S. Paule appealeth vnto their owne consciēce to approue the certaintie of his doctrine truth of his Apostleshyp Right so say I vnto the Familie of Loue that whereas they affirme we teach nothyng but our owne good thinkyng I demaunde of them when they heare the word of God preached and their consciences shaken with the terrour thereof
be reduced into these two partes the first conteineth his aunswere to the 22. Articles of the Libertines where after his manner he is very eloquent in heaping vp phrases to what end he wotteth best if it be to describe a Libertine he did very vnwisely in that for breuityes sake he referred vs not to the 1. Epistle of the Fami written to M. Rogers pag. 73. b. lin 15. where very artificially he defineth a Libertine in few wordes after this sort He that knoweth not the doctrine of HN. is a fre one or Libertine thus if he had done in few wordes theÌ„ should his wit and his wordes haue ben equal wheras now running the furthest way about it may be verified of him that was sayd in the lyke case of a person not far vnlyke Theophilus satis loquentiae sapieÌ„tiae parum many wordes but small wisedome And thus much with the notes in the margeÌ„t vnto the first part of his diuisioÌ„ Theophi first reason to approue that the doctrine of HN. is a true doctrine is taken from the effect thus The effect is good Therefore the efficient in the which argumeÌ„t drawne from that profe it is failed when that is put for the effect which is not the effect as thus The knowledge of the scripture is cause of heresie Ergo it is not good that scripture should be knowne Agayne The reading the histories of Lots incest and drunkennes of Lia and Rachell the wiues of Iacob of Iudas and Thamar c. be euell examples and yet to be read in the olde Testament Ergo to read in the ould Testament is vnlawfull for hurting of honestye This Argument is false from the effect for it putteth the reading of the Scripture to be the cause of whoredome whereas that is not such a cause as Staphilus dreameth of so that herein then ye sée the fault of this Argument wherein it ceasseth to be so strong as HN. would haue it Theophilus reasoneth thus the effect of the doctrine of the Familie is good therfore the doctrine it selfe To this I aunswere that Theophilus supposeth that whereas diuers liue honestly in the Familie that is brought to passe by HN. his doctrine that is to be denyed for whereas they now liue and honest vpright and Christian life this they learned of the preachyng of the Gospell before euer they were infected with HN. his heresie so that thereby they rather bewtifie it then are bewtified by it And for proofe hereof it is manifestly apparaunt that the younger nouices meÌ„ be in HN. his hereticall doctrine the honester they are in life and conuersation but when they leaue once their singlemyndednes and grow vp to the manly oldnes in the Loue and come as they thinke nearer to the perfection of the vpright beyng then the wicked spirite beginneth to Lord ouer them and sinne to haue a liuyng and dayly shape in them So that the déeper they wade in this mighty streame of the louely ministration the nearer they come to the hiest pitch of being altogether Godded with the nature of their new fouÌ„d Idoll which in stede of the true God they haue set vp vnto them the greater rule and sway doth the wicked nature of sinne beare in them And why so truly because that in their childish yongnes of the loue the worde of the Lord is of some credite with them So that thereby they are bridled from sinnyng but when they shall leaue that candle and light vpon false lightes as the perfect do when they come toward this perfectnesse then their lyues are euery day more vngodly then other That this is true in HN. his Dictatis or Documentall sentences is manifest where he sayth As long as the beleuers of the word are yet young or childish in the procreation of the seede of the promise that becoÌ„meth borne in them out of the belief of the world And are not yet groweÌ„ vp to the Elderdome of the perfect beyng Ephes 4. b. of the word which is the appointed tyme of the father ouer all beleuers of the world so stand they yet although they beleue vnder the ordinauÌ„ce of the Lord or his word not therfore that they should alwayes remaine as subiect there vnder But vnto the appointed tyme to wit till vnto the manly old age in the godly vnderstandyng of the holy word as there is sayd that is till that the Sinnes be subdued c. The which wordes of HN. as they haue bene the roote of all Anabaptistrie and Libertinisme For that these sectaries haue boasted they could not sinne in their perfection and therfore néeded neither the word nor the Sacramentes so doe they playnly confirme thâ—â— whereunto I haue alledged them videl So long men liue vpright as the doctrine of HN. is not knowen vnto them and that HN. his Elders are more corrupt in lyfe then the simplest in the Familie Secondly it is offended in this Argument because it is drawne from the second table of the CoÌ„maundements vnto the first that he liueth honestly before men therfore he is good in ReligioÌ„ before God. Whereas the reason should be cleane otherwise froÌ„ the first table vnto the second this is an vsuall maner in Scripture wherby the holy Ghost laboureth to discry an hypocrite In Esay the holy Ghost reasoneth thus Ye seeke me dayly and will know my wayes eueÌ„ as a nation that did righteously and had not forsaken the statutes of their God they aske of me ordinaunces of iustice they will draw neare vnto their God saying wherefore haue we fasted and thou seest it not we haue punished our selues and thou regardest it not Thus they reason as the Familie do we fast c. Ergo we are Religious and godly men but God turneth the Argument cleane otherwise thus Ye are oppressours vers 34. ye are vnmercyfull to the poore vers 7. ye are oppressours vers 3.4 ye are vnmercyfull to the poore vers 7. ye are extortioners and ingraters vers 6. Therfore are not honest men in Religion neither feare God aright The selfe same reason is vsed by S. Iames to reproue the dispersed Iewes which boasted of their vpright ReligioÌ„ they are proued to be hipocrites and dissemblers before God from the same table as before You refrayne your toungues but deceiue your owne hartes therfore your Religion is in vayne And agayne Ye visite not the fatherles and widowes in aduersitie Therfore your ReligioÌ„ is not pure and vndefiled before God. And thus still we sée that the Familie reasoneth not aright for that they frame their Argument amisse as also doth Theophilus in this place But this is not Theophilus reasoÌ„ in this place alone but in the Brief rehearsall the same is likewise vsed as an inuincible Argument to proue the professed Religion by the Familie is the truth where he likewise argueth thus The voyce of the countrey where we dwell approueth we are honest before
b. Ephes 4. b. communialitie of the holy ones in the loue or by such as walke and liue 1. Pet. 1. b. 1. Iohn 3. b. 4. b. obediently vnder the gracious word and his seruice of loue W. Wilkinson HN. sayth he can not perceiue or finde the true belief c. to this I aunswere that it is Gods iust though secret iudgement that when men aske amisse they do not obtaine when they knocke at the wrong doore they are not let in and beyng on sléepe when the bridgrome commeth and wāt light in their lampes they enter not in with him into the Mariage That HN. hath not founde nor perceiued the truth the reason is he wil not learne Pro. 8.8.9 he stoppeth his eares charme the charmer neuer so wisely Psal. 58.4.5 The Lord will guide thē that be méeke in his way Psal. 25.9 but knowledge entereth not into a froward soule and a foole that séeketh wisedome findeth her not for the Lord withstandeth the proud geueth grace vnto the humble 1. Pet. 5.5 The Israelites sought God as a people desirous to know his wayes but because the feare of him was learned by mēs preceptes Esay 29.13 they were selfe conceited wise Esay 5.21 Therfore did they heare and not vnderstād sée and not perceiue their hart was fat their eares were heauy and their eyes were shut Esay 6.9.10 Where note curteous Reader that this holy Prophet for so wil the Ioigner néedes haue vs for to take him HN. and our Papistes vse the selfe same weapō and by the same knife séeke to cut the throate of gods Church which they hādle after this sort Your Church ye Protestates was not alwayes visible neither did it alwayes appeare vnto the world Therefore it is not the true Church What a faint Consequent and weake reason this is especially with our Papistes which can not abide an Argument drawen from the Negatiue by this which followeth beyng the like may easely be proued I sée no sunne sayth the blind man neither heare I any swéetnes of song or pleasaūt Musicke sayth the deafe man Therfore there is no sunne sayth the one nor song quoth the other HN. the sonne of perdition and the Romish broode of old Hipocrites can not see the truth or will not therefore there is no truth at all The communialitie of the holy ones in the loue for so vnlesse ye terme them they will bee angry out of measure créepe in corners as owles doe at noone euen as did the Anabaptistes in the first spryng tyme of their heresie therefore there is now no Familie of Loue neither were there any Anabaptistes any where in tymes past this Argument as it is euidēt in the one so will it not be denied by the other Albeit in déede it be a féeble kinde of disputyng farre swaruyng from all rule of reason For the seyng or not seyng of mortall man doth not approue or disproue the truth of the immortall god Pharao kyng of Egypt saw Moses and Aaron and confessed the miracles by thē wrought to be true miracles yet saw he not a reason to perswade him to let Israell goe Iohn Baptist did as it were point out Christ with his finger saying Behold the lambe of God. The Iewes cōfessed that Christ had done all thinges well The Pharisies saw their thoughtes disclosed yet reasoned they thus The Scribes and Pharisies and rulers beleue not on him but onely the rude and accursed multitude Therfore is he not the Messias And if I should vse the like forme of Argumēt as this is trow ye the Familie would thinke the consequent necessary Before the dayes of Queene Mary or An. 1555. at the furthest this Louely Familie was neuer sene nor heard of onely the hatchers of this Familie the Libertines the Arriās the Anabaptistes the Free will men and Catharistes were than extant but as yet this broode of Locustes had not broken out of the bottomlesse pitte neither had it the name of Loue which it now hath Therfore the Familie of Loue neither is the Church of God neither is the holy truth of God in that their conuenticle but vnto them and their Patriarch HN. I leaue such kind of reasonyng most hūbly beséechyng God to giue them eyes to sée tongues to confesse the truth to Gods glory and the safegarde of their soules in the appearaunce of his Christ After HN. had told his Disciples where he could not finde the truth now he telleth them where he foūd it vz. HN. THe same is appeared and manifested vnto the holy ones of God in the Communialtie of Loue. W. Wilkinson SO that then belike vnlesse it be graunted him that he founde it there all his labour is lost Secondly it was not founde out there before he founde it and to that purpose it is whiche in his new Euangely he sayth He will declare the secrete misteries of God and make relation of thynges hidden from the world vntill his new day c. And he is annointed with the holy Ghost Godded with God in the spirite of his loue made heyre with Christ in the heauenly goodes of the riches of God elected to be a minister of the gracious worde which is now in the last tyme raysed vp by God accordyng to the promise Ierem. 33. Which is ment of Christ wherein HN. blasphemeth What if for all these his great boastyng crakes his swellyng wordes of vanitie turne to smoke out of the fornace and dust before the winde what then if for all his outfacyng of the simplicitie of the Gospell and shouldring out the sonne of God the Lord lay opē his folly to the world and his shame vnto the sonnes of men And if he founde no truth or if it be truth yet not of his findyng Was there no truth before he told it Was there no Gospell before his heape of confusion and huge lompe of shapeles and vnshamefast heresies If there was as most vndoubtedly there was a light before darkenes and an Arke of God before Dagon the Philistian Idoll why boasted he then thus presumptuously that the truth was of his findyng onely Neither is it yet agréed among his new peruertes concerning the age of this new founde heresie For some of his Sectaries beyng demaunded where his Church was from the Apostles tyme vntill the appearaunce of HN. this new found Prophet of theirs he aunswered not onely obscurely to the question but also fondely to the purpose and vnfittely to satisfie a waueryng conscience It was in the land of the liuyng among the holy ones But thus doth the Lord suffer their eyes to dazell who are quicke sighted to séeke out Phantasies to féede the it itchyng eares of them whō no doctrine can content HN. alledgeth 1. Iohn 1. a for proofe The wordes be these That whiche we haue sene and heard declare we vnto you that ye may also haue fellowshyp with vs and that our fellowship
is Christes spouse not to an harlot and shameles strumpet Ierusalem aboue is frée and is the mother of vs all but your Agar is in bōdage and is cast forth with her children The Lord geue you grace to consider in what case you are There is no fauour of God to them that forsake his truth and cleaue vnto errour Most of your illuminates haue ben professors though now most deriders of the ghospell and skoffers of Religion making a profession of religion but inwardly hauing denied the power thereof The further you walke in darcknes the greater is your daunger An addition to the 4. Article THe same doctrine is in diuers other places affirmed that there is no pardon c. 1. Exhort cap. 11. sent 10. cap. 15. sent 29. c. cap. 18. sent 7. Euang. cap. 41. sent 7. ARTICLE 5. HN. No Ministery WE must haue respect vnto the seruice ministred in the Familie by the Elders thereof For God hath chosen vnto him selfe the Familie of loue and this seruice of the holy and gracious word for their ministration is the safe making ministration Neither is there any minister of the worde rightly called but by their Familie Theophilus BEcause their exercise is obedience and loue accordyng to the requiryng of his word William Wilkinson TRue it is that Gods ministery is an holy and sacred thing in thought not to be violated in word and déede greatly to be had in reuerence For they which are Gods messengers doe bryng the glad tidynges of deliueraunce from sinne and Sathā vnto the people of God. They are Gods watchmen and do warne vs of the commyng of the enemy which like a roaryng Lion goeth about séekyng how hee may deuoure vs. And because their mouthes should kéepe knowledge of them must wee aske for the vnderstandyng of the word and enquire after the will of our God yet doth not all this proue that that ministration which is by you of that faythlesse Familie forged is the true and holy ministration For sometyme as now in your Familie it cōmeth to passe that false Prophetes will say thus sayth the Lord and yet the Lord hath not spoken They will presume to preach without a vision and prophesie without a burthen runne when God biddeth them not go take the testimonies of the holy ones in their mouthes when yet the Lord sendeth them not Heretiques will with a face of the Churche séeke to out-face both the children of God and the truth also Thus then not euery one that pretendeth is called in déede for some come not in at the doore but clyme in at the windowes and as many as come before Christ and set downe a contrary requiryng as ye do he is a Wolfe séeketh but to rauin Not euery one that crieth Christ Regeneration the spirite a perfect and true incorporatyng into the vpright beyng a consubstantiation and counityng with God is a true teacher and faythfull Christian Nor euery that taketh vpon him to expounde knoweth the meanyng of the word For many of you when as ye would be Doctours of the word had néede to be instructed in the very principles of fayth and first grounde of Religion So the true Ministers haue both a publicke and externall callyng by man as also a priuate and internall callyng by God which who so hath not he is an hereticall intruder and no propheticall Minister of God nor Preacher of the most holy one The whiche internall and externall callyng to the Lordes haruest to be a true labourer if any man shall pollute with his lewde life and light conuersation he is at the Lordes hand to be beaten with stripes without number Yet if any man shall say well and doe euill whiche God forefend with man it may discredit him that doth speake well and yet do amisse with God euill déedes doe not disanull the truth of doctrine as good déedes proue not euill doctrine to be true A ring of gold in a swines snowt ceaseth not to be a ryng of gold though a swine weare it pearles are pearles before dogges or swine The broad seale of England is highly to be honored for the Maiestie of the Prince therein appeareth though some tyme the partie that may cary it may bee a lewde person and a Godles Atheiste The word and Sacramentes ministred by wicked men cease not by their administration to haue their force For the wickednes of man can not ouerthrow the institution of god Where I in good conscience testifie that I speake not to defend corrupt life in any man but to vphold the truth of good liquor in an vnsauery vessell and gods good worde and sacramentes in a minister of an euill lyfe and conuersation For that Iudas and Iames in their ministery gaue the same word and wrought to the same wonders yet the one a reprobate the other an holy one and a perfect Saint of God. So then this reason that in corners your froward Familye vseth to whisper agaynst euill men though Gods Ministers is Anabaptisticall Your Ministers liue not as they teach Therefore their doctrine is not true In Scripture I know this reason is often vsed Your lyfe is not according to the law your profession Therefore you are hypocrites and dissemble with me sayth God. The former fond argument I neuer hard of any man that is sound for iudgement and sincere for godlynes The same reason is by your Familye and by your good minded brethren the Papistes alledged agaynst the truth now preached after this sort We worke better then you therefore our religion is truer they yours The first exposition if you know what proposition meaneth I deny and also the argument More than we they marke I graunt so had they néede that will haue heauen by desert or els will-naue none of it but better they doe not Quod non est ex fide peccatum est What is not of fayth c. The Pharisie gaue more almes tithes c. than the Publican yet was the Publican more iust by much then the Pharisie Not to worke but to worke well in Gods sight is commendable Non tam quid quam quomodo operamur inquiret dominus Not so much what as with what fayth we worke that will God demaund Thus haue I obiter and by the way touched your Families Papisticall Anabaptisticall argument whereof the one will be saued by the fulfilling of the lawe the other will haue markes concurre with fayth in the matter of Iustification cleane contrary to S. Augustine who sayth Opera sequuntur iustificatum non praecedunt iustificandum The workes we doe follow as fruites and goe not before as the efficient cause of our iustification And thus much of the worthines of the Ministery and ministers thereof Whome I counsell you to reuerence in better sort both in worde and writing than ye haue done For you know what Christ sayth he that despiseth you despiseth me c. and
yea bodies and liues also that by some meanes or other their wicked and schismaticall fantasies might be ouerthrowne All the which they would not haue done vnlesse by the worde of God it had ben assuredly lawfull or if the counsaile of Gamaliell had bene as a generall lawe to all estates tymes and persons that followed The which examples of Christian Emperours and godly kinges and gouernours both in the law and the kinges of Iudah in and since the state of the Primatiue Church I besech God to whome the care of his Church doth belong to put into the hartes of all Christian Magistrates to practise that they may in déede shew themselues nurses of the Church to the maintenaunce of Religion and the assuraunce of their owne thrones and estates and to the quietnesse of their subiectes that heresie may be suppressed sinne punished and that God in all may be gloryfied in and through his Christ our onely mediatour and redéemer Amen ⧠Certaine profitable notes to know an Heretique especially an Anabaptist With the Opinions and behauiour of them out of 〈◊〉 Authors ¶ Out of M. Bullingers booke agaynst the Anabaptistes ANabaptistes fly open conference and créepe from house to house craftely and priuily seducyng the simple and ignoraunt 2. Nicholas Storcke in Saxonie the chiefe ringleader of the Anabaptistes boasted of Reueilations 3. He boasted of a new world wherin iustice dwelleth Anabaptisme commeth alwayes by contentious and troublesome persons where the Gospell had bene preached before Thomas Muncer taught in word and writyng First that the Preachers of his tyme were not sent of God neither that they taught the word of God but the dead letter of the Scripture further that the scripture and outward word was not the true word of God but a testimonie of the true word and that the word is inward and heauenly and coÌ„meth immediatly from the mouth of God and that it ought to be taught inwardly by the spirite and not by Scriptures or Sermons He denyed Baptisme of Infantes He sayd that Christ did not fully satisfie for vs. He sayd God reueiled his will by dreames which he highly commended as inspirations from the holy Ghost His owne sect be termed the elect of God all that were not of his sect he sayd they were wicked woorthy to be slayne He sayd that goodes ought to be common Yea he sayd that Gedeons sword was geuen hym to abolish all Lordshyps agaynst all tyrauntes to restore the former libertie erect the new kyngdome of Christ vpon the earth Muncer was put to death for his heresie and repented before his death At Tygurie some contentious men though not vnlearned tooke part with the Anabaptistes The Anabaptistes would not communicate with the wicked They sayd that the Baptisme of infantes was inuented by Pope Nicholas and therfore it was naught Anabaptistes were hartned by those which desired the ouerthrow of the Gospell and the restoryng of Popery Anabaptistes were sage men they sighed often they laughed not they were vehement in reprehensions The simple were deceiued much by this Argument Let meÌ„ say of the Anabaptistes what they will I sée their sobriety I heare theÌ„ say nothing but this that we must not sweare at all but we must lyue holy and iust c. The Anabaptistes complained that all thynges were done agaynst them by force that the truth was oppressed that simple and godly men which sought nothing but that which was conteined in the word of God neither could they be hard or haue frée libertie to vtter out their myndes The Anabaptistes outwardly did lead a godly lyfe they spake earnestly agaynst couetousnes pride othes filthy talke vncomely behauiour chearyng and dronkennes they spake much of killyng the old man c. Briefly great and manifold was their hypocrisie They sayd they onely were the true Church wherein Christians delighted that their Sectaries might kéepe company with no Christian Churches of the Gospellers for that their Churche were no more the Churches of Christ then the Papistes Churches They sayd that the Ministers were not lawfully called to the Ministry nor ordinarily because they had not those qualities that S. Paule requireth 1. Tim. 3. e. They allow of Reuelations They say that the Sermons of Preachâ—â—â— are of smal accompt because in them is taught that Christ onely satisfied for our sinnes and that men were iustified before God by fayth and not by workes They affirmed the law might be kept and therefore they blamed the Preachers for saying the contrary They held Communitie of all thynges They affirmed that the old TestameÌ„t ought not to be mingled with the new because the old was abrogated They sayd that the soules slept vntill the day of Iudgement No Christian might be a Magistrat Magistrates must not medle with Religion The last punishmeÌ„t of Christians is ExcoÌ„municatioÌ„ No maÌ„ ought to be compelled to fayth or put to death for his Religion Warre say they is vnlawfull for Christians Their speaches must be yea and no without any oth None say they ought to be put froÌ„ the Lordes supper Cap. 9. Of diuers sectes and sortes of Anabaptistes ¶ Of Anabaptistes termed Apostoliques whose errours were 1. They approued onely the bare letter of the Scripture 2. They vsed no weapoÌ„ staffe wallet shoes money c. 3. They preached on house toppes 4. They washed one an others féete 5. They forsooke wiues and children 6. They held communitie Cap. 10. ¶ Of Anabaptistes Spirituall 1. They had nothyng like the world to proue it they abused Rom. 11. 2. They had rules both for the matter and fourme of apparell And affirmed it was vnlawfull to weare silke 3. They had rules of eatyng drinkyng and sléepyng 4. They might neuer laugh 5. They sighed often might not come in opeÌ„ asseÌ„blies 6. They condemne bargainyng and the vse of weapons Cap. 11. ¶ Of Sinles Anabaptistes These Anahaptistes sayd they could sinne For proofe they cited He that is of God sinneth not He that sinneth is of the Deuill Christes Church is without spot or wrinckle And therfore did they intermit the 5. petition Forgiue vs our trespasses They sayd there was no originall sinne neither were infantes by nature sinfull The hatchers of this heresie were Nouatus Catharis Auxentius Pelagius it is learnedly and at large confuted by S. Augustin Tom. 7. Agaynst Coelestius of mans perfect righteousnes in the last end of the booke Cap. 12. ¶ Of Anabaptistes that vsed to hold their peaces and pray 1. They sayd there ought to be no more any preachyng because the doore was shut Apoc. 1. 2. The world was not worthy to heare the Gospell 3. Beyng asked ought of their Religion they held their peace 2. Booke 1. Chap. Of Anabaptistes Enthusiastae They were often in a trayne and boasted much of the spirite and Reuelations Their common by word was The father sayd it They saw by Reuelation that the
meÌ„ Ergo our Religion is good before God. Where if the voyce of the countrey did iustifie them for honest men as farre as they know them by trading with them so farre I will confesse with them that I know some few of them to be of an honest life yet this proueth not the doctrine of HN. which they professe to be true for that I know that some honest men of them in lyfe haue confessed vnto me diuers heresies in Religion Agayne it is extreme follie to be iudged by those simple men amongest whom they liue that are truly religious for that some of those whom they desire to haue their Iudges haue no skill in those pointes that the Familie are charged with all so that in vayne it were to bryng these men beyng blynd in this case to iudge of coullors not being expert in the knowledge of the Scriptures whiche is the light whereby these coullors must be sene By this then we vnderstand that the Familie is not so learned in vsing so vnlearned a reason as they beare men in hand they are for that hereby they deceiue the simple in makyng their liues before men to be Argumentes to proue their Religion to be true For that in Scripture the Pharisies liued very vprightly before men vsing many glorious ceremonies as washyng of cuppes and beds c. and yet Christ called them hypocrites and sayd often woe be vnto them Many false Prophetes shall come in sheepes clothing sayth Christ and they are rauenyng Wolues within Staphilus a Papist handleth this Argument at large in his Apollogie where he also confuteth this Argument of HN. and his Familiers 1. the doctrine may be good sayth he and yet the lyfe euill Math. 23. and many in the Romish Church liue not Catholiquely For they lead their liues clene contrary and repugnant to their owne Canons and Constitâ—â—â—â—â—s sayth he 2. the doctrine may be euill and the lyfe good Math. 7. beware of false Prophetes Yea heretiques are of great vertue in apparaunce as he proueth by sondry examples So that sayth Staphilus the lyfe both must be iudged to be true by the doctrine as also the doctrine by the lyfe both must agrée together therfore it is not inough vnlesse both trée and frute be good And our Sauiour sayth that his workes therfore ought to be beleued because the doctrine the lyfe in him went ioyntly together And to this purpose very fitly sayth he out of S. Augustin The Argument that proueth mens doctrine by their lyfe is false Thus in the iudgement of the Families best frendes the Papistes whom they magnifie so much this their Argument is not true Furthermore as it is vnreasonable to finde fault with good séede because it is sowed by an euill husbandman so is not therfore euill séede the better to be liked of because that a good husbandman shall haue euill seruauntes that sowe it Very aptly therfore sayth Origen concernyng this matter In myne opinion sayth he an Heretique of good lyfe is much more hurtfull and hath more authoritie in his wordes then he that doth discredit his doctrine with his lyfe therfore must we take heede of heretiques which seeme to be of godly conuersation God graunt all his children may be ruled by the ghostly counsell of this godly and learned father To all the which that hetherto hath ben sayd coÌ„cerning this matter if the Famblers will obiect that euery man doth defend and maintayne that he lyketh best and that here I shew my selfe a proctour of sinne as oftentimes they obiect to this I aunswere that this obiection is HN. and Anabaptisticall neuerthelesse I lyke not to smother sinnes or to boulster vp impietye in any person whatsoeuer albeit this accusatioÌ„ in some part be true that many which professe theÌ„selues to be Gospellers can talke gloriously of religion and regeneration have â—â—â—e list to lyue thereafter abusing the pretence of the Gospell as a stalking horse to leuell at others by therefore I counsaile that no man be accompted an honest man in religion what countenaunce soeuer he would beare vnlesse he in lyfe expresse that in outward dealings which his tongue so often runneth of so that to walke after not to talke of the Gospell doth make a Protestant and a gospeller otherwise when God shall in iudgement plucke of our Lyons skinnes we shall be openly séene who we are to our owne shame and confusion Neither are the Papistes to boast that the gospellers is but a schisme from the Romish Church for otherwise it would yeald other fruites I aunswere that no land albeit sowen with neuer so good wheat bringeth out onely wheat but sometymes wéedes also And as for the Church of Antechrist the Romish harlot I meane Staphilus in his Apologie shall tell her tale and M. Harding which defendeth her open whoredome and commen stewes shall beare him witnes that though some gospellers sinne yet many Papistes sinck in impietye and thus much for Theop. first reason Vnto Theop. secoÌ„d reason conteining a request concerning an vpright arbiter in this matter as it is very equal vz. That his doctrine and the heresie of HN. be tried by the rule of Scripture so do I in this behalfe thereto most willingly consent and agrée wherein also I haue as I am able satisfied his request wholy herein aunswering him as S. Augustine in the lyke case aunswered Donatus a man in doctrine not vnlike to Theophilus Whether they hould the truth or no let them shew me none otherwise but by the canonical books of holy scripture And good reason it is that euery maÌ„ be heard by him to whome hâ— dâ—â—h make his appeale seing therfore he hath appeald to the Scripture to the Scripture shall he go Wherin also I promes him very trulye that I am rather desirous of the defending the truth then to contend with him in â—â—â—ugning his errour In the confirmation wherof if he shall deale soundly and set downe chapter and verse for his profe I will as fully satisfie him as I am able being euer ready to performe either priuately or openly that which in priuate letters I long since did offer him wherein also if at any tyme or in any matter I shall by him be thought not rightly to haue conceaued his meaning if by any meanes I shall haue intelligence thereof and if he shall vouchsafe to deale by any reasonable profe I offer my selfe to doe nothing out of euill will being as ready to confesse mine ouersightes as he shall be able to conuince me of them onely mine earnest desire out of harty loue is if hee meane to deale heareafter with me any further that he keepe him to the true gramaticall sence of scripture expounding the same according to the proportion of fayth this if he doe I shall be hartely glad otherwise if he doe in quoting scripture for the phrase and in Allegorizing the text depraue the sence thereof