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A62870 Præcursor, or, A forerunner to a large review of the dispute concerning infant-baptism wherein many things both doctrinall and personal are cleared, about which Mr. Richard Baxter, in a book mock-titled Plain Scripture-proof of infants church-membership and baptism hath darkned the truth / by John Tomes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1652 (1652) Wing T1812; ESTC R27540 101,567 110

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to_o this_o day_n for_o fear_v of_o give_v any_o occasion_n of_o difference_n page_n 209._o i_o never_o preach_v one_o sentence_n before_o the_o dispute_n nor_o since_o to_o his_o hearer_n or_o i_o that_o i_o can_v remember_v on_o the_o question_n page_n 281._o i_o never_o speak_v one_o word_n against_o his_o opinion_n in_o my_o pulpit_n to_o this_o day_n show_v his_o memory_n retain_v not_o all_o he_o print_v in_o his_o saint_n everli_v rest_n preach_v on_o the_o lecture-daye_n at_o kederminster_n as_o page_n 534._o we_o shall_v see_v the_o promise_n make_v good_a to_o our_o seed_n and_o the_o unthankful_a anabaptist_n that_o will_v not_o confess_v that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v any_o near_a to_o god_n or_o more_o behold_v to_o he_o then_o pagan_n so_o much_o as_o for_o the_o
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word_n there_o be_v no_o complaint_n and_o if_o i_o imagine_v amiss_o i_o be_o sorry_a that_o i_o do_v so_o surmise_n sect_n ix_o in_o my_o allead_n peter_n de_fw-fr bruis_n and_o other_o as_o antipaedobaptist_n 500_o year_n ago_o be_v no_o untruth_n but_o there_o be_v a_o foul_a sin_n mr._n b._n charge_v i_o with_o when_o he_o say_v in_o his_o history_n my_o report_n be_v untruth_n and_o page_n 176._o he_o charge_v i_o with_o very_a many_o palpable_a gross_a untruth_n which_o i_o either_o know_v or_o may_v to_o be_v so_o two_o he_o have_v select_v as_o most_o remarkable_a the_o first_o be_v that_o the_o lie_a papist_n do_v accuse_v the_o albigenses_n and_o waldenses_n our_o first_o reformer_n to_o be_v witch_n bugger_n sorcerer_n and_o to_o deny_v infant-baptisme_n etc._n etc._n now_o what_o do_v mr._n t._n but_o persuade_v the_o world_n that_o the_o papist_n accusation_n of_o these_o be_v true_a in_o this_o etc._n etc._n be_v it_o rail_v to_o say_v that_o this_o deal_n be_v stark_o brazen-faced_a and_o unconscionable_a and_o after_o he_o style_v it_o horrible_a foulness_n of_o deal_n with_o other_o word_n he_o that_o dare_v do_v thus_o what_o dare_v he_o not_o etc._n etc._n and_o page_n 201._o a_o most_o unconscionable_a jesuitical_a trick_n to_o seduce_v poor_a ignorant_a soul_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v my_o word_n examen_fw-la part_n 2._o sect_n 2._o tend_v to_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v some_o that_o oppose_a infant-baptisme_n 500_o year_n ago_o who_o be_v both_o godly_a man_n and_o have_v godly_a society_n join_v with_o they_o nor_o do_v i_o see_v cause_n to_o recede_v from_o the_o same_o opinion_n notwithstanding_o what_o either_o doctor_n usher_n mr._n m._n or_o mr._n b._n have_v say_v to_o the_o contrary_n i_o do_v no_o where_o charge_n the_o waldenses_n but_o only_o cite_v in_o my_o examen_fw-la part_n 2._o sect_n 2._o cassander_n and_o osianders_n word_n in_o my_o exercit_fw-la of_o the_o albigenses_n but_o let_v we_o consider_v what_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o contrary_a 1._o for_o berengarius_fw-la deodrinus_n leodiensiis_n take_v it_o up_o as_o a_o common_a fame_n 2._o it_o be_v not_o find_v charge_v in_o synod_n against_o he_o 3._o that_o it_o appear_v to_o doctor_n usher_n they_o who_o be_v charge_v in_o those_o day_n to_o hold_v that_o baptism_n do_v not_o profit_n to_o salvation_n hold_v nothing_o but_o this_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o confer_v grace_n by_o the_o work_n wrought_v yet_o durandus_fw-la leodicensis_fw-la in_o the_o 3d._n tome_fw-mi of_o the_o bibliothica_fw-la patrum_fw-la the_o last_o book_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o henry_n king_n of_o france_n make_v it_o such_o a_o fame_n as_o fill_v all_o their_o ear_n praise_v the_o king_n of_o france_n for_o call_v a_o council_n against_o he_o and_o bruno_n by_o reason_n of_o it_o nor_o be_v doctor_n usher_v word_n as_o mr._n m._n recite_v they_o that_o it_o appear_v to_o he_o but_o nec_fw-la aliud_fw-la videntur_fw-la negavisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n which_o be_v less_o than_o to_o say_v it_o appear_v to_o he_o and_o for_o his_o conjecture_n it_o may_v be_v answer_v by_o another_o conjecture_n that_o it_o seem_v rather_o berengarius_fw-la do_v at_o first_o discern_v the_o vanity_n of_o infant_n baptism_n as_o arise_v from_o augustine_n error_n about_o the_o necessity_n of_o it_o and_o not_o much_o use_v till_o after_o his_o day_n yet_o find_v the_o opposition_n of_o the_o corporal_a presence_n in_o the_o eucharist_n too_o hard_a a_o business_n be_v force_v to_o recant_v by_o pope_n nicholas_n it_o be_v likely_a he_o conceal_v his_o opinion_n of_o infant-baptisme_n to_o which_o conjecture_n cassander_n conceit_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o the_o duke_n of_o gulick_n and_o cleve_n before_o his_o testimony_n for_o infant-baptisme_n be_v somewhat_o like_a that_o though_o he_o
more_o be_v say_v then_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a calumny_n that_o he_o say_v i_o choose_v out_o the_o weak_a argument_n or_o urge_v some_o that_o be_v strong_a in_o a_o way_n of_o my_o own_o and_o then_o triumph_v and_o answer_v as_o weak_o in_o my_o sermon_n to_o my_o best_a understanding_n i_o choose_v out_o the_o best_a argument_n i_o find_v in_o mr._n m._n mr._n g._n dr._n h._n m._n draw_v mr._n blake_n mr._n cobbet_n and_o some_o other_o and_o that_o for_o the_o most_o partin_n their_o own_o word_n which_o that_o i_o may_v not_o mistake_v i_o read_v in_o the_o pulpit_n &_o therefore_o what_o ever_o my_o answer_n be_v i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v a_o untruth_n that_o i_o choose_v out_o the_o weak_a argument_n and_o urge_v some_o that_o be_v strong_a in_o a_o way_n of_o my_o own_o when_o i_o threaten_v mr._n b._n with_o the_o danger_n he_o go_v in_o or_o oppose_v i_o unless_o it_o be_v from_o god_n for_o oppose_a truth_n i_o know_v not_o and_o therefore_o take_v this_o suppose_a threaten_v of_o i_o to_o be_v either_o he_o or_o his_o tale-teller_n fiction_n sect_n xvii_o the_o gross_a absurdity_n to_o which_o mr._n b._n vaunt_v i_o be_v drive_v in_o the_o dispute_n be_v not_o so_o as_o he_o imagine_v page_n 207._o he_o make_v a_o catalogue_n of_o my_o absurdity_n at_o the_o dispute_n to_o which_o be_v the_o chief_a thing_n he_o charge_v i_o with_o in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o people_n of_o kederminster_n i_o answer_v the_o first_o and_o second_o will_v be_v show_v to_o be_v no_o absurdity_n in_o examine_v the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o book_n chap._n 6._o the_o three_o be_v no_o absurdity_n understand_v it_o of_o visible_a membership_n by_o profession_n of_o their_o own_o in_o which_o notion_n i_o say_v in_o the_o dispute_n i_o understand_v visible_a church-membership_a as_o common_o protestant_n divine_n do_v upon_o what_o occasion_n the_o four_o and_o many_o other_o of_o they_o be_v speak_v by_o i_o if_o they_o be_v speak_v by_o i_o i_o can_v remember_v nor_o what_o limitation_n or_o explication_n i_o then_o use_v but_o this_o i_o conceive_v be_v my_o meaning_n that_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v not_o visible_a church-member_n in_o the_o wilderness_n in_o that_o manner_n they_o be_v when_o they_o have_v circumcision_n that_o be_v by_o their_o visible_a particular_a note_n or_o mark_n and_o yet_o then_o they_o be_v visible_a in_o the_o lump_n the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v then_o god_n visible_a church_n in_o which_o sense_n they_o be_v then_o visible_a and_o so_o the_o woman_n too_o who_o be_v not_o circumcise_v and_o when_o i_o say_v no_o infant_n can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o visible_a church-member_n without_o some_o act_n of_o his_o own_o i_o mean_v it_o of_o visibility_n according_a to_o the_o note_n of_o visibility_n in_o the_o christian_a church_n which_o thing_n be_v right_o understand_v there_o be_v neither_o absurdity_n nor_o contradiction_n in_o my_o speech_n nor_o any_o thing_n against_o conscience_n nor_o deserve_v such_o derision_n as_o be_v in_o mr._n b._n and_o his_o colleague_n though_o perhaps_o through_o distraction_n of_o thought_n chief_o occasion_v by_o mr._n bs._n conceal_v the_o notion_n in_o which_o he_o use_v the_o term_n visible_a which_o i_o often_o in_o vain_a assay_v to_o understand_v from_o he_o or_o forgetfulness_n or_o scantness_n of_o word_n i_o do_v not_o express_v myself_o clear_o this_o be_v answer_v sufficient_a about_o the_o four_o five_o six_o seven_o eight_o nine_o sixteen_o pretend_v absurdity_n the_o ten_o a_o candid_a man_n will_v have_v conceive_v rather_o to_o have_v be_v lapsum_fw-la linguae_fw-la a_o slip_n of_o speech_n then_o errorem_fw-la mentis_fw-la a_o fault_n of_o mind_n and_o that_o however_o a_o mistake_n may_v slip_v from_o i_o a_o thing_n very_o incident_a to_o the_o most_o learned_a in_o the_o heat_n of_o dispute_n yea_o sometime_o in_o preach_v conference_n and_o writing_n yet_o i_o mean_v visibility_n to_o be_v the_o adjunct_n and_o the_o person_n visible_a to_o be_v the_o subject_n the_o eleven_o twelve_o thirteen_o i_o conceive_v no_o absurdity_n the_o church-visibility_a of_o infant_n then_o be_v from_o that_o imperfect_a church-frame_n which_o be_v to_o continue_v only_o till_o christ_n come_v and_o be_v clog_v with_o many_o burden_n which_o by_o christ_n come_v all_o be_v merciful_o free_v from_o as_o to_o go_v up_o to_o jerusalem_n thrice_o a_o year_n etc._n etc._n without_o any_o loss_n of_o mercy_n to_o infant_n though_o it_o be_v for_o a_o time_n a_o mercy_n to_o they_o which_o will_v be_v moreful_o clear_v god_n assist_v in_o answer_v mr._n bs._n argument_n p._n 1._o chap._n 6._o the_o fourteen_o be_v no_o absurdity_n as_o i_o then_o to_o my_o best_a remembrance_n express_v it_o though_o mr._n bs._n juvenility_n think_v fit_a to_o make_v sport_n with_o it_o that_o the_o elect_a people_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v natural_a not_o as_o mr._n b._n set_v it_o down_o natural_o that_o be_v according_a to_o nature_n in_o that_o they_o be_v descend_v from_o abraham_n the_o root_n of_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n by_o natural_a generation_n and_o so_o natural_a branch_n yet_o not_o by_o nature_n that_o be_v natural_a ability_n or_o work_n of_o their_o own_o but_o by_o grace_n as_o the_o efficient_a cause_n rome_n 11._o ver_fw-la 5_o 6._o to_o conceive_v it_o the_o olive_n there_o note_v a_o race_n of_o man_n who_o be_v the_o church_n of_o believer_n which_o because_o after_o abraham_n the_o root_n it_o be_v first_o in_o the_o jewish_a nation_n be_v call_v their_o own_o olive_n ver_fw-la 24._o of_o which_o abraham_n be_v ver_fw-la 16_o 18._o make_v the_o root_n bear_v two_o sort_n of_o branch_n some_o ingraff_v who_o be_v the_o gentile_a believer_n some_o natural_a the_o jew_n and_o he_o be_v a_o root_n under_o a_o double_a habitude_n one_o as_o a_o natural_a father_n and_o another_o as_o father_n of_o believer_n both_o sort_n of_o branch_n be_v by_o the_o apostle_n make_v to_o stand_v in_o abraham_n the_o root_n as_o branch_n of_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n or_o the_o invisible_a the_o one_o natural_a in_o that_o they_o be_v not_o proselyte_v or_o ingraff_v but_o come_v of_o abraham_n by_o natural_a generation_n the_o other_o proselyte_v or_o ingraff_v by_o believe_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d beside_o the_o natural_a way_n of_o descent_n from_o abraham_n yet_o both_o unite_v in_o abraham_n the_o common_a root_n of_o believer_n and_o in_o the_o olive-tree_n the_o church_n of_o believer_n as_o particular_a branch_n thereof_o yet_o neither_o by_o nature_n that_o be_v by_o virtue_n of_o natural_a generation_n as_o the_o apostle_n determine_v rom._n 9_o 8._o but_o by_o election_n of_o grace_n rom._n 11._o 5_o 6._o and_o whereas_o mr._n b._n tell_v i_o rom._n 11._o 24._o say_v both_o he_o be_v mistake_v for_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o say_v that_o any_o be_v a_o branch_n of_o the_o root_n abraham_n by_o nature_n but_o that_o the_o ingraff_v branch_n be_v antecedent_o to_o their_o engraff_n in_o the_o olive_n wild_a by_o nature_n nor_o be_v it_o say_v of_o the_o branch_n from_o the_o root_n that_o be_v call_v natural_a that_o they_o be_v branch_n in_o the_o true_a olive_n by_o nature_n as_o mr._n b._n will_v have_v it_o to_o prove_v they_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n by_o nature_n but_o that_o they_o be_v branch_n of_o that_o olive_n or_o race_n of_o man_n who_o be_v not_o wild_a by_o nature_n that_o be_v gentile_n bring_v no_o fruit_n to_o god_n but_o of_o that_o olive_n which_o be_v descend_v from_o abraham_n by_o natural_a generation_n which_o be_v the_o church_n of_o god_n till_o break_v off_o 2._o whereas_o the_o translation_n turn_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ver_fw-la 21_o 24._o by_o natural_a and_o once_o ver_fw-la 24._o by_o nature_n yet_o it_o be_v the_o same_o term_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o all_o 3._o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o the_o jew_n in_o the_o translation_n of_o ver_fw-la 24._o be_v say_v to_o be_v branch_n by_o nature_n and_o for_o the_o fifteen_o absurdity_n it_o be_v no_o absurdity_n they_o be_v call_v natural_a only_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o descent_n as_o man_n from_o abraham_n but_o not_o as_o branch_n in_o the_o olive-tree_n and_o this_o be_v clear_a for_o the_o ingraff_v branch_n can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v no_o otherwise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d beside_o nature_n but_o in_o that_o they_o be_v not_o descend_v from_o abraham_n by_o natural_a generation_n and_o therefore_o on_o the_o contrary_a the_o jew_n be_v natural_a branch_n not_o as_o believer_n but_o as_o man_n descend_v from_o abraham_n by_o natural_a generaration_n the_o seventeen_o absurdity_n be_v a_o relation_n of_o a_o speech_n of_o i_o that_o mr._n b._n can_v find_v one_o author_n expound_v 1_v
i_o pray_v with_o he_o may_v perish_v of_o schism_n or_o zeal_n for_o it_o i_o be_o not_o conscious_a that_o truth_n i_o avouch_v will_v stand_v when_o mr._n bs._n rot_a pillar_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n to_o many_o question_n and_o charge_n in_o sundry_a page_n 213._o etc._n etc._n a_o answer_n may_v be_v gather_v from_o what_o be_v say_v before_o sect_n xix_o the_o six_o imagine_a error_n charge_v on_o i_o by_o mr._n b._n be_v clear_v from_o his_o censure_n mr._n b._n add_v a_o confutation_n of_o six_o of_o my_o pretend_a error_n the_o first_o be_v only_o a_o speech_n of_o i_o in_o conference_n on_o occasion_n of_o mr._n bs._n word_n in_o a_o sermon_n which_o be_v take_v to_o be_v a_o fling_n at_o i_o and_o my_o meaning_n be_v this_o that_o the_o truth_n i_o maintain_v and_o such_o like_o be_v about_o a_o thing_n of_o frequent_a practice_n so_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o ignorance_n sin_n will_v be_v commit_v be_v not_o to_o be_v conceal_v when_o if_o it_o be_v it_o be_v like_a to_o 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