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A86918 A vindication of the Treatise of monarchy, containing an answer to Dr Fernes reply; also, a more full discovery of three maine points; 1. The ordinance of God in supremacie. 2. The nature and kinds of limitation. 3. The causes and meanes of limitation in governments. Done by the authour of the former treatise. Hunton, Philip, 1604?-1682. 1644 (1644) Wing H3784; Thomason E39_12; ESTC R21631 66,271 81

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1_o his_o uncharitable_a rash_a censure_n his_o intent_n in_o this_o reply_n come_v not_o home_n to_o the_o case_n in_o question_n sect._n 2._o how_o far_o scripture_n proof_n be_v to_o be_v expect_v in_o these_o case_n sect._n 3_o chap._n 2._o in_o the_o question_n of_o resistance_n the_o doctor_n distinction_n of_o time_n and_o person_n be_v vain_a how_o far_o resistance_n be_v assert_v by_o i_o in_o this_o and_o the_o former_a treatise_n chap._n 3._o the_o doctor_n and_o other_o of_o his_o sort_n abuse_v scripture_n in_o this_o question_n sect._n 1_o scripture_n warrant_v this_o resistance_n but_o have_v not_o a_o word_n against_o it_o the_o doctor_n in_o word_n profess_v against_o absoluteness_n but_o indeed_o plead_v for_o it_o sect._n 2._o government_n not_o only_o from_o god_n but_o subordinate_o from_o the_o people_n sect._n 3_o
he_o promise_v that_o in_o this_o book_n certain_a point_n will_v appear_v to_o be_v truth_n agreeable_a to_o scripture_n and_o reason_n sc_fw-la that_o government_n be_v not_o the_o invention_n of_o man_n but_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n that_o governor_n have_v their_o power_n not_o from_o the_o people_n but_o from_o god_n that_o govern_v power_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o in_o all_o supreame_n and_o can_v only_o be_v limit_v in_o the_o exercise_n and_o that_o where_o a_o prince_n stand_v supreme_a and_o next_o to_o god_n above_o all_o the_o people_n there_o the_o subject_n may_v not_o take_v arm_n and_o make_v forceable_a resistance_n for_o any_o exorbitance_n these_o several_a proposition_n how_o far_o they_o contain_v truth_n and_o how_o far_o not_o i_o shall_v in_o the_o sequel_n make_v appear_v after_o these_o great_a promise_n he_o proceed_v p._n 13._o to_o speak_v somewhat_o of_o the_o original_a of_o govern_v power_n and_o accuse_v i_o as_o if_o i_o seem_v to_o sect._n 3_o affirm_v it_o to_o be_v from_o god_n but_o in_o the_o process_n of_o my_o book_n he_o find_v i_o derive_v it_o indeed_o from_o the_o people_n i_o perceive_v two_o contrary_a opinion_n concern_v the_o original_a of_o government_n do_v in_o that_o treatise_n endeavour_v to_o reconcile_v they_o and_o to_o show_v in_o what_o sense_n both_o be_v true_a to_o that_o end_n as_o there_o be_v manifest_a p_o 4._o i_o distinguish_v 3_o thing_n 1_o it_o be_v constitution_n 2_o it_o be_v limitation_n to_o one_o kind_n 3_o it_o be_v determination_n to_o one_o individual_a person_n and_o family_n the_o first_o of_o these_o i_o do_v affirm_v to_o be_v from_o god_n the_o two_o latter_a from_o man_n and_o then_o conclude_v in_o these_o thing_n we_o have_v doctor_n fernes_n consent_n let_v we_o see_v what_o exception_n he_o can_v take_v at_o this_o peaceable_a assay_n of_o reconcilement_n in_o the_o process_n of_o my_o discourse_n he_o find_v i_o derive_v it_o from_o the_o people_n what_o then_o do_v i_o deny_v it_o thereby_o to_o be_v from_o god_n as_o if_o subordinates_n do_v exclude_v one_o another_o god_n have_v ordain_v that_o power_n shall_v be_v people_n by_o virtue_n of_o that_o ordinance_n give_v they_o existence_n in_o this_o or_o that_o kind_n and_o subject_a the_o doctor_n acknowledge_v all_o this_o but_o not_o in_o my_o sense_n p._n 14._o he_o grant_v the_o designation_n of_o the_o person_n and_o the_o limitation_n of_o the_o power_n to_o several_a kind_n to_o be_v from_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n i_o say_v no_o more_o why_o do_v we_o not_o then_o agree_v the_o plain_a truth_n be_v the_o doctor_n will_v not_o have_v limitation_n of_o power_n to_o be_v at_o all_o from_o the_o people_n what_o ever_o he_o pretend_v how_o then_o the_o limitation_n of_o the_o power_n to_o several_a kind_n be_v from_o the_o people_n as_o the_o doctor_n yield_v i_o can_v tell_v be_v not_o limitation_n of_o it_o into_o kind_n limitation_n of_o the_o power_n itself_o but_o he_o be_v possess_v that_o my_o sound_a sense_n be_v another_o sense_n from_o he_o what_o other_o he_o do_v not_o show_v but_o it_o be_v another_o which_o he_o like_v not_o why_o because_o sometime_o i_o say_v the_o people_n reserve_v a_o power_n to_o oppose_v or_o displace_v the_o magistrate_n sometime_o they_o divest_v themselves_o of_o all_o superiority_n it_o be_v true_a i_o say_v so_o but_o withal_o i_o say_v that_o when_o they_o reserve_v such_o a_o power_n they_o constitute_v no_o monarchy_n be_v it_o not_o so_o in_o the_o high_a minister_n of_o power_n in_o aristocracy_n and_o democracy_n what_o can_v he_o say_v against_o so_o apparent_a a_o truth_n 2._o i_o call_v they_o p._n 63._o architectonicall_a power_n this_o he_o deride_v and_o say_v this_o be_v the_o riddle_n of_o this_o govern_v power_n original_o in_o the_o people_n they_o be_v architectonicall_a power_n but_o build_v upon_o foundation_n lay_v in_o the_o air_n p._n 14_o then_o he_o give_v his_o reason_n for_o before_o government_n establish_v they_o have_v not_o any_o politic_a power_n whereby_o a_o command_n may_v be_v lay_v upon_o other_o but_o only_o a_o natural_a power_n of_o private_a resistance_n this_o be_v false_a that_o they_o have_v only_o a_o natural_a power_n of_o private_a resistance_n they_o have_v indeed_o no_o formal_a politic_a power_n for_o we_o speak_v of_o a_o people_n free_a from_o all_o government_n but_o they_o have_v a_o virtual_a radical_a power_n by_o public_a consent_n and_o contract_n to_o constitute_v this_o or_o that_o form_n of_o government_n and_o resign_v up_o themselves_o to_o a_o condition_n of_o subjection_n on_o term_n and_o after_o a_o form_n of_o their_o own_o constitution_n so_o the_o athenian_n lacedaemonian_n and_o roman_n of_o old_a have_v expel_v their_o king_n and_o the_o unite_a province_n with_o other_o of_o latter_a time_n have_v do_v this_o be_v that_o which_o i_o call_v architectonicall_a power_n and_o the_o reply_o vain_o carp_n at_o the_o name_n when_o he_o can_v deny_v the_o thing_n but_o i_o know_v what_o he_o aim_v at_o in_o all_o this_o sc_n that_o god_n ordinance_n be_v a_o absolute_a boundless_a power_n in_o all_o supremes_n uncapable_a of_o any_o limitation_n but_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o which_o full_o afterward_o sect._n 4_o at_o length_n he_o take_v a_o near_a view_n of_o the_o form_n of_o monarchy_n speak_v of_o by_o i_o and_o make_v a_o few_o observation_n upon_o such_o particular_n at_o he_o please_v p._n 14._o let_v we_o follow_v his_o step_n first_o for_o absolute_a monarchy_n whereas_o i_o say_v it_o be_v when_o sovereignty_n be_v so_o full_o in_o one_o that_o it_o have_v no_o limitation_n under_o god_n but_o the_o monarch_n own_a will_n he_o approove_v my_o description_n but_o threaten_v to_o remember_v it_o below_o p._n 15._o let_v he_o do_v so_o and_o make_v his_o best_a advantage_n of_o it_o only_o here_o he_o can_v forbear_v one_o note_n that_o then_o it_o be_v not_o the_o denial_n of_o resistance_n 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