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The second and third treatises of the first part of ancient church-government the second treatise containing a discourse of the succession of clergy.
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R. H., 1609-1678.; R. H., 1609-1678. Third treatise of the first part of ancient church-government.
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19_o 2_o cor._n 12.12_o 1_o cor._n 2.4_o mark_v 6.20_o require_v belief_n and_o submission_n to_o their_o doctrine_n and_o universal_a tradition_n upon_o which_o the_o church_n also_o require_v belief_n to_o the_o scripture_n the_o same_o tradition_n that_o deliver_v the_o scripture_n deliver_v also_o such_o doctrine_n and_o exposition_n of_o scripture_n as_o be_v find_v in_o the_o church_n so_o that_o a_o pharisee_fw-mi search_v and_o not_o find_v in_o scripture_n by_o reason_n indeed_o that_o he_o search_v they_o not_o aright_o such_o testimony_n of_o jesus_n be_v the_o messiah_n as_o be_v pretend_v yet_o aught_o to_o have_v be_v convince_v and_o to_o have_v believe_v his_o doctrine_n from_o see_v his_o miracle_n and_o from_o hence_o also_o to_o have_v blame_v his_o faulty_a search_n so_o a_o berean_a search_v and_o not_o find_v in_o scripture_n such_o evidence_n of_o s._n panl_n doctrine_n suppose_v of_o the_o abrogation_n of_o the_o judaical_a law_n by_o christ_n as_o be_v pretend_v yet_o aught_o to_o have_v believe_v it_o from_o the_o mighty_a work_n he_o see_v do_v by_o s._n paul_n or_o from_o the_o authority_n he_o or_o the_o council_n at_o jer_n salem_fw-la act._n 15._o receive_v from_o jesus_n work_v miracle_n and_o raise_v from_o the_o dead_a as_o universal_a tradition_n testify_v and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v for_o the_o church_n doctrine_n and_o therefore_o as_o there_o be_v some_o scripture_n that_o bid_v we_o search_v the_o scripture_n because_o if_o we_o do_v this_o aright_o we_o shall_v never_o find_v they_o to_o disagree_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n and_o because_o some_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n be_v also_o in_o the_o scripture_n very_o evident_a so_o there_o be_v other_o scripture_n if_o those_o who_o be_v so_o ready_a to_o search_v they_o on_o other_o will_v search_v they_o also_o on_o this_o point_n that_o bid_v we_o hear_v the_o church_n because_o our_o search_n of_o scripture_n be_v liable_a sometime_o to_o be_v mistake_v and_o because_o in_o some_o thing_n the_o scripture_n may_v seem_v difficult_a in_o which_o case_n god_n have_v refer_v we_o to_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o who_o he_o have_v appoint_v to_o be_v the_o expounder_n thereof_o deut._n 17.8_o 9_o 10._o matt._n 18.17_o luk._n 10.16_o can_v remit_v we_o again_o to_o the_o same_o scripture_n to_o try_v whether_o their_o exposition_n be_v right_a therefore_o that_o text_n gal._n 1.8_o 9_o be_v far_o from_o any_o such_o meaning_n if_o the_o church_n or_o churchman_n shall_v teach_v you_o any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n as_o you_o understand_v they_o let_v these_o he_o anathema_n to_o you_o but_o rather_o it_o say_v this_o if_o a_o angel_n or_o i_o apostatise_v as_o some_o shall_v act._n 20.30_o shall_v teach_v any_o thing_n contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n you_o have_v receive_v that_o be_v from_o the_o church_n let_v he_o etc._n etc._n which_o make_v not_o against_o but_o for_o the_o church_n authority_n very_o much_o §_o 61_o to_o the_o former_a text_n then_o mention_v §_o 56._o this_o brief_o may_v be_v return_v to_o the_o three_o first_o text_n that_o a_o search_n of_o scripture_n concern_v our_o lord_n or_o his_o apostle_n doctrine_n be_v both_o allow_v and_o recommend_v because_o the_o scripture_n right_o understand_v and_o these_o doctrine_n perfect_o agree_v but_o a_o dissent_n from_o these_o doctrine_n if_o upon_o a_o search_n think_v to_o be_v disagree_v which_o the_o objector_n will_v infer_v be_v not_o allow_v from_o the_o reason_n former_o give_v in_o the_o four_o text_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o private_a spirit_n to_o be_v try_v whether_o of_o god_n by_o their_o conformity_n to_o the_o common_a doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o the_o church_n see_v 1_o cor._n 14.29_o 32._o the_o 5_o include_v a_o general_a trial_n as_o well_o by_o the_o direction_n and_o exposition_n of_o the_o spiritual_a guide_n as_o dictate_v of_o the_o scripture_n the_o rule_n the_o 6_o 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this_o decession_n we_o have_v see_v and_o what_o more_o shall_v be_v see_v hereafter_o god_n know_v but_o this_o argue_v not_o that_o truth_n shall_v fail_v in_o all_o or_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o doctor_n who_o remain_v still_o in_o the_o church_n and_o profession_n of_o christianity_n but_o that_o the_o church_n itself_o shall_v sail_v of_o have_v so_o great_a a_o extent_n in_o the_o world_n or_o her_o guide_n of_o be_v so_o many_o at_o some_o time_n as_o at_o other_o yet_o at_o all_o time_n sufficient_o apparent_a §_o 63_o again_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o prevalency_n of_o arrianism_n it_o seem_v that_o in_o these_o late_a time_n there_o shall_v be_v a_o fall_v away_o too_o within_o the_o profession_n of_o christianity_n from_o the_o faith_n i.e._n from_o that_o faith_n which_o be_v orthodox_n by_o many_o dangerous_a heresy_n and_o schism_n from_o time_n to_o time_n arise_v in_o the_o church_n whilst_o many_o former_o member_n of_o it_o shall_v separate_v from_o it_o 1_o 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sufficient_o clear_a to_o you_o that_o he_o shall_v profess_v a_o antichristianity_n and_o oppose_v the_o gospel_n in_o general_a or_o if_o at_o some_o time_n such_o sect_n shall_v outnumber_n the_o church_n itself_o yet_o as_o be_v say_v before_o it_o shall_v stand_v in_o a_o external_a communion_n separate_v from_o the_o church_n and_o also_o former_o expel_v by_o the_o church_n when_o these_o do_v not_o outnumber_v it_o and_o though_o afterward_o these_o shall_v grow_v never_o so_o numerous_a yet_o the_o remnant_n of_o orthodox_n believer_n how_o small_a soever_o continue_v in_o the_o same_o body_n will_v not_o cease_v to_o be_v true_o and_o only_a catholic_n without_o they_o neither_o have_v these_o any_o right_n or_o will_v be_v permit_v to_o vote_n in_o her_o council_n which_o council_n to_o be_v true_o general_n need_v to_o be_v no_o large_a than_o the_o church_n
for_o a_o false_a religion_n we_o find_v this_o do_v in_o wicked_a jeroboam_n and_o consequent_o we_o read_v of_o his_o make_n for_o his_o new_a religion_n also_o new_a priest_n §_o 69_o thus_o i_o say_v the_o temporal_a authority_n may_v much_o advance_v and_o further_o the_o spiritual_a but_o no_o secular_a power_n have_v the_o least_o authority_n in_o spiritual_a matter_n to_o act_v contrary_a to_o those_o who_o be_v minister_n of_o christ_n power_n and_o unreasonable_a it_o be_v to_o think_v that_o he_o may_v do_v more_o against_o they_o who_o be_v part_n of_o their_o flock_n than_o the_o heathen_a prince_n may_v do_v who_o have_v no_o relation_n and_o if_o christianity_n enter_v into_o any_o country_n change_v not_o any_o law_n thereof_o but_o confirm_v all_o obedience_n thereto_o than_o neither_o may_v the_o civil_a government_n admit_v into_o christianity_n abridge_v any_o of_o its_o privilege_n which_o privilege_n may_v as_o well_o subsist_v with_o a_o christian_a sovereignty_n as_o they_o have_v do_v with_o a_o heathen_a but_o if_o they_o offer_v any_o violence_n unto_o it_o the_o church_n to_o who_o not_o to_o they_o god_n have_v commit_v his_o flock_n may_v and_o aught_o as_o it_o also_o often_o have_v with_o the_o weapon_n christ_n have_v give_v she_o to_o oppose_v they_o and_o though_o not_o to_o fight_v yet_o to_o speak_v to_o profess_v to_o suffer_v and_o die_v for_o the_o cause_n see_v the_o opposition_n the_o priest_n make_v to_o vzziah_n general_o a_o good_a prince_n 2_o chron._n 26.18_o and_o that_o of_o athanasius_n and_o alexander_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n and_o constantinople_n to_o constantine_n require_v the_o restore_n of_o arius_n excommunicate_v and_o that_o of_o ambrose_n to_o theodosius_n neither_o can_v the_o bishop_n at_o any_o time_n excuse_v their_o not_o govern_v and_o defend_v and_o patronise_a the_o flock_n of_o christ_n under_o pretence_n either_o of_o the_o care_n that_o christian_a prince_n their_o sovereign_n have_v of_o 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shall_v cancel_v his_o promise_n of_o their_o indefectibility_n in_o such_o necessary_n 2_o that_o for_o any_o other_o spiritual_a matter_n wherein_o perhaps_o they_o may_v err_v yet_o the_o temporal_a magistrate_n may_v not_o reform_v because_o he_o that_o in_o spiritual_a thing_n be_v to_o learn_v of_o they_o what_o be_v truth_n and_o what_o error_n can_v never_o judge_v when_o they_o err_v unless_o they_o first_o tell_v he_o so_o what_o you_o will_v say_v can_v judge_v when_o as_o he_o have_v the_o holy_a scripture_n leave_v to_o demonstrate_v to_o he_o truth_n and_o error_n i_o ask_v be_v they_o leave_v to_o he_o alone_o or_o have_v he_o any_o evidence_n therefrom_o which_o the_o clergy_n have_v not_o or_o do_v the_o secular_a man_n study_v they_o more_o than_o they_o who_o make_v this_o their_o employment_n and_o trade_n yes_o but_o their_o eye_n be_v blind_v in_o many_o thing_n with_o self-interest_n namely_o in_o those_o which_o some_o way_n concern_v their_o own_o privilege_n etc._n etc._n 1._o then_o in_o all_o doctrine_n no_o way_n advance_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n the_o prince_n may_v not_o swerve_v from_o its_o judgement_n well_o it_o be_v if_o but_o so_o much_o be_v observe_v but_o 2_o for_o these_o matter_n of_o interest_n it_o be_v something_o that_o be_v say_v if_o where_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v interest_v on_o the_o one_o side_n of_o the_o controversy_n the_o secular_a power_n which_o claim_v right_a to_o judge_v be_v not_o as_o much_o on_o the_o other_o and_o whatever_o privilege_n be_v take_v from_o the_o one_o be_v not_o devolve_v upon_o the_o other_o for_o example_n if_o henry_n 8_o and_o his_o lord_n have_v take_v the_o supremacy_n in_o church-affair_n from_o the_o pope_n and_o not_o transfer_v on_o themselves_o it_o be_v something_o though_o not_o sufficient_a that_o be_v say_v but_o in_o such_o concernment_n man_n be_v equal_a judge_v in_o which_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o expect_v the_o more_o integrity_n that_o they_o will_v not_o claim_v more_o than_o their_o due_n but_o 3_o suppose_v that_o our_o saviour_n have_v grant_v his_o church_n some_o great_a privilege_n as_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v possible_a either_o these_o privilege_n by_o they_o must_v not_o be_v maintain_v or_o such_o a_o cavil_n can_v be_v prevent_v but_o methinks_v this_o be_v enough_o to_o preserve_v truth_n in_o their_o sentence_n who_o be_v most_o account_v man_n of_o conscience_n though_o in_o matter_n concern_v themselves_o that_o by_o a_o false_a judgement_n a_o great_a interest_n hereafter_o be_v lose_v than_o be_v for_o the_o present_a gain_v §_o 71_o but_o here_o observe_v of_o those_o who_o upon_o many_o suchlike_a pretence_n rob_v the_o church_n of_o her_o legislative_a power_n for_o spiritual_a matter_n that_o they_o can_v place_v it_o else_o where_o though_o they_o try_v several_a way_n nor_o yet_o deny_v any_o such_o power_n at_o all_o but_o with_o great_a absurdity_n and_o mischief_n sometime_o or_o other_o to_o truth_n and_o the_o christian_a profession_n some_o of_o they_o bestow_v it_o on_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n without_o limitation_n so_o as_o to_o oblige_v all_o man_n without_o dispute_v to_o obey_v whatever_o in_o these_o thing_n he_o determine_v as_o a_o countryman_n of_o we_o but_o this_o be_v so_o gross_a a_o tenant_n i_o need_v spend_v no_o labour_n to_o show_v the_o many_o horrible_a consequence_n thereof_o some_o again_o bestow_v it_o upon_o the_o same_o supreme_a magistrate_n so_o as_o to_o oblige_v man_n only_o to_o obey_v he_o i_o mean_v active_o in_o what_o they_o think_v not_o contrary_a to_o the_o divine_a law_n and_o for_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o think_v contrary_a not_o to_o resist_v any_o punishment_n inflict_v on_o they_o for_o not_o obey_v active_o i._n e._n in_o believe_v and_o practise_v as_o that_o magistrate_n appoint_v thus_o g._n vossius_fw-la h._n grotius_n jus_fw-la imp._n circa_fw-la sacra_fw-la and_o ordinary_o protestant_n vossius_fw-la represent_v the_o matter_n brief_o thus_o in_o a_o epistle_n insert_v in_o praestantium_fw-la virorum_fw-la ep._n p._n 167._o synodi_fw-la falli_fw-la possunt_fw-la magistratus_fw-la non_fw-la debet_fw-la iis_fw-la credere_fw-la propter_fw-la se_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la consentiunt_fw-la cum_fw-la scripture_n &_o canonibus_fw-la antiquis_fw-la et_fw-la haec_fw-la synodus_fw-la et_fw-fr ille_fw-la errori_fw-la est_fw-la obnoxius_fw-la sed_fw-la hoc_fw-la non_fw-la impedit_fw-la quo_fw-la minus_fw-la &_o synodi_fw-la officium_fw-la sit_fw-la dirigere_fw-la intellectum_fw-la in_o cognitionem_fw-la very_fw-la tum_fw-la magistratus_fw-la imperare_fw-la quod_fw-la rectum_fw-la est_fw-la &_o salutare_fw-la quodsi_fw-la illa_fw-la dirigit_fw-la male_a non_fw-la ideo_fw-la hic_fw-la imperabit_fw-la male_a &_o si_fw-la hic_fw-la imperet_fw-la malum_fw-la non_fw-la ideo_fw-la subditi_fw-la parere_fw-la debent_fw-la in_o malo_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o magistraetus_fw-la &_o subditus_fw-la 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aught_o to_o disobey_v he_o and_o upon_o this_o the_o question_n still_o proceed_v how_o the_o magistrate_n may_v just_o punish_v the_o subject_a for_o not_o do_v a_o thing_n where_o the_o subject_a