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A57245 A discourse of the torments of hell The foundation and pillars thereof discovered, searched, shaken and removed. With many infallible proofs, that there is not to be a punishment after this life for any to endure that shall never end. By S. Richardson. Richardson, Samuel, fl. 1643-1658. 1660 (1660) Wing R1405; ESTC R217994 49,345 207

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A DISCOURSE OF THE TORMENTS OF HELL The foundation and pillars thereof discovered searched shaken and removed WITH Many infallible proofs that there is not to be a punishment after this life for any to endure that shall never end By S. RICHARDSON If thou hast anything to say answer me if not hold thy peace and I shall teach thee wisdome Job 37. 32 33. Printed in the Year 1660. To the Reader HEre is presented to thy view things new and old when Christ and his disciples declared the truth Some mocked saying what new doctrine is this Mark 1. 27. What will this babler say Acts 17. 18. For thou bringest strange things to our eares ver. 20. and many of them said he hath a devil and is mad why hear ye him John 20. 20. When Christ declared the truth the Priests cryed blasphemy the high Priest rent his clothes saying he hath spoken blasphemys what think ye and they all condemned him to be guilty of death Mat. 26. 56. The servant is not above his Lord They need consider him that endured the contradiction of sinners against himself lest ye be weary and faint in your minds Heb. 12. 3. Christ and his truth and people are condemned and despised by the Scribes and Pharisees and the blind world that lye in wickednesse Acts 24. 14 15. they that cease from man and his traditions are signs and wonders Isa. 8. 18. Reproch hazard and losse attends them Christ poor a Carpenter despised called a blasphemer and that came at last to be hanged how shal his followers expect better from an ignorant and angry world sure they need Iobs spirit and principle to drink up scorning take water Iob 34. 17. for if you prove all things and cease from man and his traditions will they not say ye are mad however were are to plead for truth and not flatter one another in error the less any truth is known and the more it is despised and opposed the more necessity there is of declaring it No man when he hath lighted a candle putteth it in a secret place c. Luk. 4. 33. What thou seest writ in a Book Rev 1 11. It hath pleased the father of lights not to manifest all the light of truth at once but in severall ages seasons here a little and there a little that each age and season hath its present truth 2 Pet. 1. 12. called the word of his patience Rev. 3. 10. it being so much opposed who can utter those many things that are said against the truth and those that plead for it sometimes they will not receive truth if not brought to them by the wise and learned they do not consider Mat. 11. 25 26. Some conceal reprochfull truths because not willing to bear the reproches of Christ the evil spirit in man saith what shall I get for declaring truth if onely loss present it self loss of good name loss of profit loss of life loss of all will follow if some may have their will reason saith it is better to be silent and act Religion by p●litick principles to avoid the Cross and reproches of Christ though they are great riches Heb. 11. 26 One generation sowes and another reaps this shall be written for the generation to come whoso is wise shall understand these things prudently and he shall know them Hos. 14. 9 they also that erred shall come to understand Dan. 12. 10 the Lord teach us his truth and to receive it in the love of it and leave us not to our own understanding we need pray to God herein and to give us more thankful hearts for the great peace and ple●ty this Nation injoys indeed these are good dayes blessed be God for the same although we have not all we desire The testimony of the learned of the proper signification of shheol Hades and Gehenna caused a further search and my descent herein I alledge not the sayings of men for proof but for a witnesse against themselves because they are godly learned Teachers and instructers it s like their sayings will weigh more with some then good reason to whose interpretation many give no less reverence then to an oracle from heaven also to convince them that as that I have said is not without a ground in the word of God so it is not without sufficient ground against themselves from the testimony of the Hebrew Doctors learned Rabbies and the chief of the Protestant Writers as is expressed that they may see that they cannot condemn that which I have said without condemning the Scriptures and their godly and learned devisers and interpreters I have the testimony of my conscience that the love of truth and desire to learn drew me into this search and caused me to dissent not for contention but for truths sake the truth we ought to seek and imbrace though we should suffer for it the manifestation of light and love hath overthrown many brave inventions and doctrines of men I upon often seeking of God and diligent search and from the clearness of the light of the truth herein am fully and confidently perswaded that it is the truth I plead for let others think and say what they please according as it is written I have believed therefore have I spoken I believe and am willing to stand to all is writen by the Prophets and Apostles and to hear and learn of any that knows the truth that which I see not teach thou me Truly the light is sweet search for it if thou hast any thing to say answer me if not hold thy peace and I will teach thee wisdom Job 33. 32 33. I will teach thee being in the hand of God with the almighty will I not conceal I know this tends much to the glory of God and comfort of all especially sad affl●cted discouraged soule this is glad tidings and as good news from a far Country welcome and savoury to comfort those that mourn is the earnest desire of him that through the exceeding riches of Free-grace doth walk rest abide and dwell in the secret place of the most high in the Region of love in God 1 Iohn 4. 8. where all that dwell farewel Of Christ's descending into hell SOme of the learned say Christ descended into hel and for proof alledge Ps. 16. 10. Acts 2. 27. Dr. Willet saith that those words of Christ descended into Hell is not found in the most ancient Creeds Dr. William Whitaker saith I could produce fifty of the most ancient Creeds that have not these words he descended into hell in his answer to Campion page 215. Mr. William Perkins o● the Creed saith It seems likely that these words He descended into Hell were not placed in the Creed at first and that it crept in by negligence for above threescore Creeds of the most ancient Councills and Fathers want this clause he descended into Hell among the rest not found in the Nicene Creed nor found in the Romish Church nor used in the
lived would have sinned for ever cast them out of my sight Jer. 5. 1. Ans. If it be just we should suffer for ever it is just our Surety should suffer for ever Do you consider that the Creature was made subject to vanity not willingly but by reason of him that hath subjected the same in hope Rom. 8. 20. Cast them out of my sight is no proof that they shall suffer for ever but rather that they shall be utterly destroyed for if they have any being where ever they be they cannot be out of the sight of God Your justice is not Gods his is a death yours is not a death but another thing Mr. Leigh saith Gods intentions from everlasting was to glorifie his justice as well as his mercy Rom 9. 21 23. fitted to destruction Ans. Know you any of the intention of God that is not revealed in his word Deut. 29. 29. or doth the word say that God doth not glorifie his Justice unless he infl●ct so great a punishment without end you give neither scripture nor reason to prove that you say is just the Justice of God was revealed and made known in causing the earth to swallow up Corah and his company they were vessels of wrath prepared fitted to destruction your opinion denies the word of God that saith they are fitted to destruction you say they are never to be destroyed die nor end Mr. Leigh saith the covenant under which unregenerate men stand and by which they are bound over to this wrath is everlasting Ans. There is but two covenants Gal. 4. 24. the old and new Heb. 8. 13. 12. 24. the old is no more everlasting then the Priesthood of it the breach of the covenant of works is death therefore not eternal life in misery Mr. Leigh saith in that torment they curse and accuse one another Ans. When you write again I pray tell us how you know that in Hell they do so for the word of God saith not so nor have you been there to hear it nor they that told you so to affirm things in Religion not revealed in the word of God is to pre●ume above that which is written and contrary to 2 Cor. 4. 8. Rom. 15. 4. Sacr●tes an Heathen was more wise and modest in not affirming things he knew not being asked what was done in Hell said he never went thither nor communed with any that came from thence yet you and others affirm with great boldness and confidence things you know not some say in Hell the eye is afflicted with darkness whereas darkness is no affliction to the eye also they say their eares are afflicted with horrible and hideous outcries their noses with poysonous and stinking smells of what I pray their tongues with gally bitternesse the whole body with intollerable fire the damned sh●ll prize a drop of water worth ten thousand worlds cursing shall be their tunes blasphemies their ditties lamentation their songs and shrieeking their straines they shall lye shrieeking and screaming continually Ye see how men set their braines awork to invent lyes for all they say is without warrant from the word of God One saith their torment in Hell is so great that they cannot forbear roaring and you say they curse and accuse one another so ●hat one of their vain imaginations contradict another and all of them the word of God they will not deny that those in Hell are in the greatest trouble and they in lesse trouble cannot speak I am so troubled I cannot speak Ps. 17. 4. therefore they cannot curse and accuse one another as you affirm Mr. Leigh saith Divines unanimously concur c. Ans. If they doe it is not binding to us for we are satisfied they are not infallible There must be errors 1 Cor. 11. 9. they have the greatest share The Priests Popish and Mahometan Priests Baals Priests and all other sorts of Priests concurre common consent sooner believed then naked truth it is high time to Cease from men for wherein is he to be accounted of Isa. 2. 22. truth and not number of men is to be followed Every one must give an account of himselfe to God Rom. 14. 3 11 12. Luther said he esteemed not the worth of a Rush a thousand Augustines and Cyprians against himselfe all Churches erre Pa●normitan said more credit is to be given to one speaking the truth then to all men in all ages speaking the contrary They are like to concur and agree if they take the counsell they give as not to question principles it seems we must take all upon trust and hear-say without trial they all say it therefore it is true but the Bereans would and did search the Scriptures to see if things were so as the Apostles preached see 1 Joh. 4. 1. Let it be certainly made to appear that God hath said in any thing contrary to any thing that I have said I desire with all my heart to submit to it without that I cannot yield the soveraignty of my judgement and conscience to the concurring consent of blind guides ignorant and erroneous men though in sheeps cloathing and covered all over with the title of Godly Learned and Holy Saints or Presbyters or Ministers of Christ the Papists call their Church Holy Church and their Priest Holy Priest and their Order Holy Order and all Holy if you will believe them Some say the Jews report that in Tophet the Valley of the Son of Hinnom there was a great Ditch which could never be filled which they called the mouth of Hell and that the Chaldeans when they slew the Israclites threw them in there if this report be true which hath been brought to prove Hell then it will follow that the mouth of Hell is near Jerusalem and that God doth give to the wicked power to cast his people into Hell How much weight there is in your Reasons to prove a punishment after this life never to end let who will judg I for my part professe I do not ●ee how they serve to your purpose your nak●dn●sse appeares and that your opinion hath neither scripture nor reason to support it and therefore it must needs fall 2 Tim. 3. 9. you have done all you can and c●n come to no surer bottom to rest upon then supposals and imaginations wresting Scriptures and consent of others your glory is that all are of your minde though without good ground or reason as is shewed Also in that you alledge reasons to prove Hell torments it giveth me occasion to believe that in your own judgement the Scriptures you alledg to prove it prove it not for if you believe the Scriptures prove it to what purpose serve your reasons or do you think that those that doubt of the sufficiency of your proofe of it by Scripture will be satisfied with your reasons as a full proof of it if there be any such they may be to them of some use The Learned contradict themselves Mr. Bolton saith thou must live in