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A84789 Here are several queries put forth in print for all, or any of you whose names are here under written, (and likewise for them at Cambridge and Oxford, ... or any other of your societies that will answer the same) and return your answer in print, to the view and satisfaction of many people; who are now questioning whether any of all your practises do proceed from the true foundation. For Robert Gell. Doctor of Divinity so called, who formerly preached to the Society of Astrologers; as witness his book called Stella nova. William Lilly. Student in astrology. John Booker. Student in astrology and physick. Richard Sanders. Student in the divine, laudible and celestial sciences, as he calls it. Vincent Wing. George Wharton. Or any other of the astrologers to answer. And likewise for Francis Prujan. John King. Charles Scarbrough. George Bates. Lawrence Wright. Jonathan Goddard. And Richard Barker. Doctors of Physick; and to the rest of that society to answer. / These queries are put in print by me, Henry Clark. Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Clark, Henry, 17th cent. 1657 (1657) Wing F1839; Thomason E899_5; ESTC R202174 10,625 16

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that which is to rule Religion Can any know the things of God by the natural or by the natural learning or can any know the wisdom of God by their natural Languages or Minister Physick to the Creatures yea or nay 56. And hath not the effect of the Schools viz. Cambridge and Oxford more destroyed nature then preserved it by their natural Arts and have they not more by their natural Learning and Languages more corrupted Religion then preserved it Does not pride and oppression and covetousness destroy nature all for the want of the wisdom of God 57. Does nature preserve nature or the Power of God preserve it yea or nay 58. How is it that fire and water dwells together in unisy and earth and the one quenches not the other but the fire stands ready in the water to serve 59. What is the seed of the Serpent and what is the Serpent and what is the part that he hath his being in and that his seed is received into and what is the seed of Abraham and from whence had the Serpent his beginning and Root and what off spring is he of 60. And what is the seed of man what is the woman that brings forth the seed that bruiseth the Serpents head 61. What is the earth that is rejected that brings forth briars and thorns and with what is it seen and where is it seen and where is the earth in which dwelleth righteousness and with what is it seen and where is it seen 62. To burn the Sword of the earth will it then bear the better grass 63. Whether that nature doth know any thing of the wisdom of God which is lifted up yea or nay 64. Doth not the Star-gazers the Monethly Prognosticators rise out of the Elementary life which stands in the Elementary stars is not this from the Elementary ground within 65. Doth Dreams and Changings arise from this ground which stands in the Elementary Stars and Planets doth not here arise the Airy life doth the ground of the Dream arise out of the Elementary or out of the flesh of Christ Can you judge of grounds or descern of Centers Answer or is the flesh of Christ covered from that which the Elementary hath its being or the Planets that stands in the alterings in the signs of the Sun Moon and Stars which stands in the alterings is the flesh of Christ hid from this life hid from this Elementary 66. Doth the Astrologer arise out of the flesh of Christ or doth the Dream arise out of the natural understanding or wisdom or knowledge or comprehension or reason or that which the Planets ascending to the Stars or is the flesh of Christ over all this or is the flesh of Christ hid from all this and from them that be in it yea or nay 67. Doth the flesh of Christ comprehend this doth the flesh of Christ reign over all this Elementary hath any the Wisdom of God but who hath Christ 68. And what was the wisdom in all ages in them that were in the Stars but knew not Christ nor knew not the Apostles and what difference was there between their ground and the ground of their wisdom and the wisdom are Books the rule for Religion or Physick or the Spirit of God that gave forth the Scriptures of truth seeing the Devil could get the Scriptures and forms 69. And doth not that the earth that acts and rules but not in the wisdom of God but out of it and to set up that to rule nature and to order worship and to order Religion which hath got the natural Languages and out of the wisdom of God and of truth and the Spirit the Devil is out of and abode not in whether or no here is not a setting up that which the Devil abode in and is it not that which the Nations drink of 70. What is Christ and what is that which was offered seeing the Jews offered that which was natural in their natural state and knew not Christ the everlasting offering Christ Jesus that perfected for ever them ●hat were sanctified therefore what was that and what is the everlasting offering that overthrows the Jews and the first Priesthood and the Heathen both what is this offering which perfecteth for ever them that are sanctified give in the Answer and whether it be known by Letter or by that which was before Letter was given forth or whether sin stands unblotted out in the second Covenant 72. Doth all the Tongues and Languages proceed out of that which is to be confounded out of the natural yea or nay and did all the Language proceed out of that which was confounded and was that confounded out of that which the Languages proceeded or did the Languages proceed out of the flesh of Christ are they that be in the flesh of Christ redeemed out of Languages yea or nay 73. Hath not a Beast out of the Sea the Earth and the woman the mother of the Harlots which hath all risen since the days of the Apostles proceeded from one ground and root yea or nay 74. And whether or no this hath not been it that hath persecuted and oppressed and slain the just whether this be not the same as was since the beginning of the world yea or nay 75. And whether ever the just did slay the just or persecute the righteous or oppress it answer let the just that satisfies many but the contrary doth not satisfie many but is to be bruised with the just 76. Whether or no● there is not the Rock and the stony heart fire and water and whether or no fire will not strike out of the Rock and stone and kindle in the Elementaries and set on fire the course of nature and then whether or no the unruliness doth not rise there yea or nay 77. And how is this Rock and Stone bred in which there is fire and water if the former Queries be by you granted and what is the ground of that which changeth the tempers of bodies and what is that which brings in the deseased state and causes the pains in what is men and people living in while they are in that state 78. Whether or no while the Rock and stony heart is not removed the garment that be old be not on it and whether or no this is not it that is speechless at the voice of Christ and whether or no the Talent be not there hid where there is speechless at the voice of Christ 79. What is the old man that shall dream Dreams and how many sorts of Dreams are there in the natural is there true Dreams is there living Dreams and from whence have each of these their ground shew each their operation and the cause of each every one in their place distinct one from the other then speak to the thing and you will speak something to the purpose and what is the cause of all Dreams 80. And Christ saith I le put my sheep forth what is that there put forth of and what is the bottomless pit and where is it to be seen and in what place and where is Hell seeing the Prophets and holy men of God that gave forth Scripture often spoke of it Now if you have the wisdom of God declare it where it is and how it may be shuned and where people may see it and whether or no all writings and speakings forth of Scripture is not to this end if not to this end that the end of them might be enjoyed 81. Whether or no any doth witness sanctification or redemption but who witness that eye that sees before the world was 82. Whether any know the Resurrection of the just and unjust but who owns the light that doth enlighten every one that cometh into the world whether you do own that to be the true Christ that doth enlighten man that cometh into the world and whether or no that Christ doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world yea or nay 83 Had the Serpent a beginning if you say he had whence had he it and are not all people being in him in sin Can any worship God differing from the Devils worship but who are in the truth the Devil is out of and must not all they that worship God in the spirit and in the truth be in that the Devil is out of and is there any sin or unrighteousness in the truth Man shall blaspheme because of the Plague and vehement heat 84 What is man gone from that there is not unity that he pains and is sore and is corrupt and into what part doth the Plague and heat enter into man into that part that is out of unity yea or nay 85. And is there transgression in the flesh before the Plague hear healing entreth and is not this flesh above the seed and must not this be known and the flesh of Christ before healing is known yea or nay G. F. In Page 6. line 1. read diseased Estate unfortunate The End
Here are several QUERIES Put forth in Print for all or any of you whose names are here under written And likewise for them at Cambridge and Oxford who are there teaching and training of such up to practice such things as you your selves are now acting in or any other of your Societies that will Answer the same and return your Answer in Print to the view and satisfaction of many people who are now questioning whether any of all your practises do proceed from the true Foundation For Robert Gell. Doctor of Divinity so called who formerly Preached to the Society of Astrologers as witness his Book called Stella Nova William Lilly Student in Astrology John Booker Student in Astrology and Physick Richard Sanders Student in the Divine Laudible and Celestial Sciences as he calls it Vincent Wing Or any other of the Astrologers to Answer George Wharton Or any other of the Astrologers to Answer And likewise for Francis Prujan Doctors of Physick And to the rest of that Society to Answer John King Doctors of Physick And to the rest of that Society to Answer Charles Scarbrough Doctors of Physick And to the rest of that Society to Answer George Bates Doctors of Physick And to the rest of that Society to Answer Lawrence Wright Doctors of Physick And to the rest of that Society to Answer Jonathan Goddard Doctors of Physick And to the rest of that Society to Answer And Richard Barker A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him neither will he go unto the wise Prov. 15.12 He that Answereth a matter before he heareth it it is a folly and shame unto him Prov. 18 13. The way of life is above the wise But he that handleth the matter wisely shall find good Prov. 15.24 and 16.20 These Queries are put in Print by me Henry Clark London Printed for Giles Calvert and are to be sold at his Shop at the Sign of the Black-spread Eagle at the West-●nd of Pauls 1657. Querie I. WHat is the Ground of the knowledge of God 2. Can you cast a Scheam or a figure to tell what shall be in the year which is a hundred years to come And if you say you can that be Astrologers Star-gazers Monethly Prognosticators how was it that the wise men of AEgypt and the Magicians could not tell Pharaohs Dream Nor could not tell of the Famin that was to come in the years after which Joseph which had the Spirit of the Lord did see beyond all the Magicians and wise men of Pharaoh 3. Is the change of the times known by Planits and Stars Sun and Moon Or is the times known with that which lets see the Father and the time to be in his hand seeing that the wise men of AEgypt knew not the altering and changing of the times and days and years that was and is in the Fathers hand And whether all this wisdom be not below that fees no farther then the wise men of AEgypt And whether all this is not and was not against the truth yea or nay and so cannot see and discern the times in the Fathers hand and hath not the wisdom which is from above Is this so yea or nay 4. Is not God the changer of times seasons and doth not God change the times seasons which the Aftrologers and Magicians knew not in the time of Daniel neither could they tell Nebuchadnezars Dream not the into pretation thereof nor the changing and altering of his Kingdom But Daniel who was a Captive among them with the Spirit of the Lord who had the Spirit of the Lord who had the thing revealed to him And again Nebuchadnezar dreamed a Dream who told the Dream to the wise men of Babylon the Magicians Soothsayers Astrologers and they could not tell the Interpretation of the Dream but Daniel the man of God did to him declare it Now what differ you from these Astrologers and Soothsayers which knew not that the most High reigned the most High ruled in the Kingdom of men neither Nebuchadnezar nor his Astrologers Magicians nor Sooth-sayers 5. Doth not the Magicians and Astrologers and Sooth-sayers all proceed from one root and what is that root seeing they that were in this root knew not the Dream of Nebuchadnezar nor the change of his Kingdom and knew not that the most High ruled in the Kingdom of men they nor Nebuchadnezar therefore they that are not come to this knowledge that the Kingdom of the most High ruleth in the Kingdom of men consider in what knowledge they and you be in that be in their steps 6. And whether your knowledge which be Astrologers Soothsayers Star-gazers wise men Magicians whether your wisdom doth proceed from any other root but that they were in seeing in these days little more is seen then was seen in them in the days of Nebuchadnezar and in the days of Pharaoh 7. And whether there is not now in these days people trained up from their youth who weary themselves in the multitude of Astrologers Star-gazers Monethly Prognosticators and whether the Inchantment and Witchcraft Sorcery be not all proceeding from the same root and whether people doth not under this shelter and after this hearken which to them becomes a covering And whether this doth not keep in the separation from God in the body of the Elimentary life of the Natural whether the Counsels of the Heathen doth not carry after the Astrologers and Star-gazers and whether Star-gazers doth not arise out of the same ground and whether Philosophy doth not beguil 8. And whether the beggerly Elements without hath not an Element within And whether the ground of the Planits within be not that which ecchoes to the Planets without 9. Whether is not the Observer of times the Star-gazers the Prognosticators in that which sees not time in the Fathers hand be not darkened in the Elementaries And whether or no the wisdom of God doth not see the overthrowing of Kingdoms and the changing of times and the Kingdom where there is no end And whether or no this is not a Dream to all the Magicians upon the earth Astrologers upon the earth Monethly Prognosticators Observers of times And whether or no they that do not see this Dream be not out of the wisdom of God And whether or no the wisdom of God do not comprehend the Kingdom of the world which hath an end and whether or no those Kingdoms reign and are set up which hath an end which seeth not the Kingdom which hath no end 10. Whether or no hath not all the Astrologers Sooth-sayers their shelter under this Rule from whence this springs And whether or no this be not the power of darkness if you say this be not what is the power of darkness 11. What is the ground of a Dream and its cause And what is it that subdues the ground of the Dream and its cause in the man Or is the ground of the dream to be subdued in the man 12. Whether or no doth not