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A94272 A treatise of the schism of England. Wherein particularly Mr. Hales and Mr. Hobbs are modestly accosted. / By Philip Scot. Permissu superiorum. Scot, Philip. 1650 (1650) Wing S942; Thomason E1395_1; ESTC R2593 51,556 285

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he_o elsewhere_o ep._n 166._o our_o heavenly_a master_n have_v so_o much_o admonish_v we_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o this_o that_o he_o will_v make_v the_o common_a people_n secure_v even_o of_o evil_a superior_n that_o not_o for_o they_o the_o chair_n of_o save_a doctrine_n shall_v be_v destroy_v therefore_o the_o chair_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v forsake_v much_o less_o destroy_v for_o the_o error_n of_o the_o precedent_n o_o how_o st._n cyprian_n do_v purge_v that_o poison_n of_o they_o to_o the_o quick_a epist_n l._n 3._o ep_v 2._o if_o there_o be_v see_v darnel_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n our_o faith_n and_o charity_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v hinder_v thereby_o that_o because_o we_o see_v darnel_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n we_o therefore_o leave_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n in_o the_o second_o epist_n to_o timothy_n 2._o say_v in_o a_o great_a house_n there_o be_v not_o only_a vessel_n of_o gold_n and_o of_o silver_n but_o also_o of_o wood_n and_o of_o earth_n and_o certain_a indeed_o unto_o honour_n but_o certain_a also_o unto_o contumely_n but_o it_o be_v only_o lawful_a for_o god_n who_o have_v a_o rod_n of_o iron_n to_o break_v the_o earthen_a vessel_n etc._n etc._n let_v not_o any_o one_o assume_v to_o himself_o what_o the_o father_n alone_o have_v give_v to_o his_o son_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v say_v he_o a_o proud_a obstinacy_n and_o sacrilegious_a presumption_n which_o wicked_a fury_n assume_v to_o itself_o let_v our_o country_n man_n think_v sad_o of_o this_o it_o be_v object_v to_o i_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v force_v her_o proselyte_n to_o believe_v falsehood_n pernicious_o under_o anathema_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n i_o answer_v that_o if_o we_o shall_v make_v a_o impossible_a supposition_n against_o all_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n that_o the_o church_n shall_v in_o necessary_a point_n teach_v error_n yet_o even_o in_o that_o case_n every_o child_n of_o the_o church_n must_v exterior_o carry_v himself_o quiet_a and_o not_o make_v commotion_n for_o that_o be_v to_o seek_v a_o cure_n worse_o than_o the_o disease_n as_o in_o the_o like_o impossible_a supposition_n our_o countryman_n waldensis_n l._n 2._o c._n 27._o teach_v non_fw-la perperam_fw-la insilire_fw-la debet_fw-la he_o must_v not_o leap_v against_o the_o church_n face_n in_o rebellion_n neither_o be_v he_o bind_v to_o believe_v a_o untruth_n nor_o yet_o be_v one_o in_o danger_n to_o incur_v the_o censure_n for_o the_o church_n can_v reach_v the_o mind_n only_a god_n in_o a_o just_a sentence_n confirm_v her_o act_n reach_v home_o which_o can_v be_v in_o this_o case_n for_o he_o shall_v confirm_v a_o injustice_n whence_o it_o follow_v that_o no_o man_n be_v or_o can_v be_v compel_v to_o believe_v untruth_n but_o only_o not_o to_o make_v schism_n which_o by_o divine_a law_n be_v forbid_v and_o therefore_o st._n augustine_n rule_n be_v still_o true_a there_o can_v be_v no_o necessity_n of_o cut_v off_o the_o church_n unity_n no_o not_o in_o supposition_n that_o she_o shall_v command_v great_a error_n but_o you_o will_v not_o object_n that_o if_o the_o article_n command_v by_o the_o church_n be_v in_o themselves_o true_a yet_o if_o i_o can_v perceive_v their_o truth_n after_o all_o diligence_n use_v to_o that_o end_n it_o be_v hypocrisy_n in_o i_o and_o therefore_o unlawful_a to_o adhere_v to_o that_o church_n i_o conceive_v though_o false_o teach_v and_o command_v false_a doctrine_n and_o extraordinary_a practice_n upon_o those_o ground_n this_o true_o be_v most_o serious_o object_v by_o some_o but_o without_o all_o solidity_n for_o sure_o christian_n be_v oblige_v by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o reason_n to_o depose_v their_o own_o false_a judgement_n in_o obedience_n to_o god_n &_o his_o church_n else_o this_o will_v open_v a_o gap_n to_o all_o itch_a ear_n of_o who_o we_o be_v premonish_v to_o introduce_v each_o man_n his_o fancy_n and_o prefer_v it_o before_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n deliver_v by_o his_o church_n neither_o be_v it_o difficult_a for_o man_n though_o learned_a to_o depose_v his_o own_o judgement_n especial_o in_o order_n to_o external_a action_n for_o it_o be_v daily_o do_v by_o all_o sort_n of_o timorate_a conscience_n who_o do_v mangre_n their_o own_o reason_n direct_v themselves_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o who_o they_o know_v to_o be_v more_o learned_a than_o themselves_o mr._n hobbbs_n chap._n 15._o and_o n._n 13._o say_v unusquisque_fw-la rationem_fw-la privatam_fw-la rationi_fw-la totius_fw-la civitatis_fw-la submittere_fw-la potest_fw-la here_o he_o labour_v to_o lay_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o derivation_n of_o power_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n to_o determine_v what_o belong_v to_o matter_n of_o religion_n which_o he_o faith_n that_o the_o people_n have_v transfer_v to_o the_o magistrate_n he_o prove_v it_o as_o he_o faith_n evident_o i_o examine_v it_o not_o be_v pertinent_a to_o