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A09112 The vvarn-vvord to Sir Francis Hastinges wast-word conteyning the issue of three former treateses, the Watch-word, the Ward-word and the Wast-word (intituled by Sir Francis, an Apologie or defence of his Watch-word) togeather with certaine admonitions & warnings to thesaid [sic] knight and his followers. Wherunto is adioyned a breif reiection of an insolent, and vaunting minister masked with the letters O.E. who hath taken vpon him to wryte of thesame [sic] argument in supply of the knight. There go also foure seueral tables, one of the chapters, another of the controuersies, the third of the cheif shiftes, and deceits, the fourth of the parricular [sic] matters conteyned in the whole book. By N.D. author of the Ward-word. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 19418; ESTC S114221 315,922 580

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between_o such_o as_o be_v orthodoxi_fw-la or_o catholykes_n and_o other_o that_o be_v new_a fangle_a o●_n wrangle_v people_n that_o will_v follow_v no_o rul●_n but_o their_o own_o head_n and_o fancy_n of_o whi●●_n rule_v make_v mention_n also_o in_o the_o primiti●●_n church_n ignatius_n after_o the_o apostle_n epist_n ad●●●gnetianos_fw-la justinus_n apol_n 2._o pro_fw-la christianis_fw-la irenaeus_n 〈◊〉_d 1._o cap._n 1._o &_o 2._o clemens_n lib._n 4._o stromatum_fw-la adversus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d rese_n tertullianus_n lib._n de_fw-la velandis_fw-la virginibus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d alexandrinus_n as_o s._n basil_n cit_v he_o lib._n the_o spiri●●_n cap._n 29._o and_o many_o other_o father_n commend_v high_o and_o inculcate_v often_o the_o obseruati●●_n of_o this_o rule_n as_o well_o for_o belief_n as_o also_o for_o inte●●pretation_n of_o scripture_n but_o especial_o to_o c●●●cerne_v heretic_n who_o to_o use_v these_o father_n own_o word_n do_v no_o soon_o begin_v to_o prattle_n but_o that_o by_o 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those_o bishop_n that_o be_v institute_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n unto_o our_o day_n who_o teach_v not_o that_o which_o these_o heretic_n dream_v etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v he_o account_v this_o rule_n to_o be_v the_o whole_a tradition_n of_o our_o ancestor_n come_v down_o by_o succession_n of_o bishop_n and_o pastor_n 27._o ter●_n lib._n the_o prescript_n contr_n haeret_fw-la cap._n 27._o to_o who_o agree_v tertullian_n present_o after_o he_o call_v this_o rule_n the_o fullness_n of_o the_o apostle_n preach_v si_fw-la ergo_fw-la incredibile_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o ignorasse_fw-la apostolos_fw-la plenitudinem_fw-la praedicationis_fw-la vel_fw-la omnem_fw-la ordinem_fw-la regulae_fw-la omnibus_fw-la non_fw-la edidisse_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o it_o be_v incredible_a that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o know_v the_o fullness_n of_o the_o preach_n of_o the_o gospel_n or_o that_o they_o do_v not_o deliver_v unto_o all_o christian_n all_o the_o order_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o belief_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o same_o man_n in_o a_o other_o place_n 1●_n tert
try_v out_o truth_n among_o they_o after_o long_a proof_n that_o scripture_n alone_o will_v not_o do_v it_o if_o o._n e._n and_o his_o compagnions_n will_v accept_v of_o his_o offer_n to_o go_v and_o pray_v with_o they_o in_o the_o field_n of_o holland_n to_o stay_v the_o sun_n they_o may_v chance_v to_o agree_v together_o at_o the_o next_o new_a moon_n to_o who_o wane_v and_o changement_n i_o leave_v both_o they_o and_o the_o progress_n of_o their_o religion_n and_o mean_v only_o to_o say_v a_o few_o word_n more_o about_o the_o fruit_n of_o good_a work_n and_o temporal_a benediction_n and_o so_o to_o end_v this_o first_o encounter_n wherein_o i_o have_v be_v over_o long_o already_o of_o the_o frvite_n of_o virtue_n and_o good_a work_n pretend_v to_o have_v follow_v by_o change_n of_o religion_n as_o also_o of_o eight_o temporal_a inconvenience_n which_o may_v be_v call_v curse_n or_o malediction_n ensue_v by_o thesame_n and_o how_o o.e._n behave_v he_o self_n in_o this_o 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