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A85407 Peace protected, and discontent dis-armed. Wherein the seventeen queries (with the addition of three more, postscript-wise) lately published, partly to allay the discontents of some about the late revolution of government, but more especially to guide every mans feet into the way of peace, as well his own, as the publique, are reinforced with replies unto, and animadversions upon, such answers, which some (it seems) have given unto them, to invalidate their purport and intent. Together with four new queries superadded. By the author of the said seventeen queries. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.; Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1654 (1654) Wing G1188; Thomason E732_27; ESTC R202310 55,941 80

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To this Query this Answer tripartite is given 1. It were better to try the spirits then by Querying of what spirit some are of to gratifie the carnal world who is alwaies ready to reject that Spirit which is of God 2. To reprove the sins of Government is not to despise Government but to remove from it that which makes it desspiseable 3. The wisdome from above is first pure then peaceable To the first member of this Answer 1. That the main designe of the Queries both divisim and conjunctim is to try spirits and to discover who are the persons that in their deportments about the present Government and Governours are acted and led by the spirit of God and who by their own spirits or by the spirit of the World Therefore if the trying of spirits be so commendable a work the Answerer hath no cause ●o blame the Queries at least in respect of their projection or end If they have not quitted themselves in their undertaking with that dexterity or regularnesse of proceeding which was to be desired nor done their work to satisfaction there is this to be said for them that their will was good onely how to perform it they found not 2. I doe not at any hand understand how the Querying of what spirit some men are of should be any matter of gratification to the carnal world It is a greater and more dangerous gratification of them either so to speak or so to doe that they may be incouraged or perswaded that such persons who are of their spirit are of the Spirit which is of God 3. Nor is it alwayes or universally true that the carnal World is ready to reject that Spirit which is of God if by carnall world be meant all persons at present un-regenerate For how then should the world in any part of it become regenerate Doubtlesse no man becomes regenerate by rejecting the Spirit of God nor by a readinesse to reject it no nor whilest either of these are found in them But this is little to the businesse before us The second member of the Answer in directnesse of termes contains nothing but a most true and worthy sentence onely a little explication would strengthen the claim of it to this honour To reprove the sins of Government with a Christian gravitie and with a discovery of an honourable esteeme of that Government it self the sins of which we reprove is not to despise the Government but it is a matter of easie miscarriage to reprove the sins of Government after such a manner as herein to betray our selves that we are despisers of Government yea and to incourage those that hear us to despise it also 2. It is one thing to reprove the sins of Government another to asperse it with the imputations and charge of such sinnes of which it is not guilty and then to fall heavy and foul upon it for such sins of which either the strength of our disaffections only or the weaknesse of our understandings or both have made it guilty The words of the third and last member of the Answer are of too great an inspiration to be questioned But 1. it is no impurity not to reproach revile or curse the ruler of a mans people 2. From the expresse tenour of the words that wisdom which is not peaceable whatever it may pretend to purity is evicted not to be from above But saith the Apostle Iames if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts glory not and lie not against the Truth by saying or thinking you are men truly wise when as you are nothing lesse This wisdom descendeth not from above but is earthly c. XIV Whether did not Satan the great Enemy of the peace and safety of mankind desire to sift the Apostles rather then any other sort of men i. e. to disturb and trouble their fancies memories understandings c. for a time with an intent and hope by this means to draw out of them some soyl or dross some unworthy carriages or other which coming from them he knew must needs be more serviceable for his ends then the same or the like coming from other men Or doth he not in these days labour in the very fire to disturb the principles distemper the imaginatives disorder and confound the reasons apprehensions and understandings of such men whose disordered actings and miscarriages he supposeth will be of highest conducement to his ends which are known to be the trouble misery and destruction of the poor creature called Man Or are not such men the men of this character whose zeal hath so highly commended them to the opinions and thoughts of many devout and well-meaning men and women that they judg their thresholds to be much nearer the threshold of God himself then other mens Against this Query this Answer magnifies it self We find none of the Apostles that Sathan had this advantage against but Peter who was so confident of his own abilities that he thought none so able to stand as he And they are nearest unto Sathans sieve who count themselves the masters of wisdome and rationality in their generation And as Sathan had the greatest advantage upon men of that temper so when God stirrs up instruments to bear forth any testimony of his in their generation he cl●useth the weak and the foolish things of this world Not that they are foolish for there is no wisdom like to that which is from above But so they are called because so esteemed by the world in which they live and with which they contend to the losse of their honours names estates and therefore are counted fooles But notwithstanding they are known to be of God by those poor souls that walk in the light of the same spirit of God which they walk in To these things 1. The Scripture will not allow it for truth that Sathan had not the advantage of sifting against ANY OF the Apostles but Peter onely For presently upon the apprehending of Christ by the multitude that were sent from the cheif Priests and elders with swords and staves against him it is expresly said that all the Disciples as well as Peter forsook him and fled Mat. 26. 56. This was an effectual sifting Yea Peter it seemes in case it be supposed that he fled also immediately repented of his flying and shewed more courage at least for a time then any of his fellows But 2 If Peter was therefore more obnoxious to Sathans sifting then the rest of the Apostles because he was so confident of his abilities that he thought none so able to stand as he this is fully concurrent with the design of the Query For I verily beleeve that there are no men more confident of their abilities or that think they are more able to stand then the Persons looked upon by the Query and admired by the Answer 3. If they who count themselves the masters of wisdom in their generation be the men that are
Peace Protected AND Discontent Dis-armed WHEREIN The seventeen Queries with the addition of three more Postscript-wise lately published partly to allay the discontents of some about the late Revolution of Government but more especially to guide every mans feet into the way of Peace as well his own as the publique are reinforced with Replies unto and Animadversions upon such Answers which some it seems have given unto them to invalidate their purport and intent Together with four new Queries superadded By the Author of the said seventeen Queries Every Kingdom divided against it self is brought to desolation Mat. 12. 25. The wisdom which is from above is first pure then Peaceable Gentle and easie to be intreated James 3. 17. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Chrysost. Semper enim sunt tumultuosi spiritus qui regnum Christi non bene extolli credunt nisi aboleantur omnes terrenae potestates Calvin ad Roman 13. 1. Non si quid turbida Roma Elevet accedas Persius London Printed by I. Macock for H. Cripps and L. Lloyd and are to be sold at their shop in Popes-head Alley 1654. To the Reader Good Reader THere were a while since a few Queries delivered out with the right hand unto the people of this Nation but it seems that by many they have been received with the left It was Davids complaint that for his love men became his adversaries and rewarded him evil for his good a And the Apostle Paul was jealous that he should be looked upon as an Enemy by the Galathians for telling and teaching them the truth Yea the Lord Christ himself by reason of his familiar and free converse with men although it were in due order to the saving of their Souls yet purchased unto himself from many the blot and imputation of being a man gluttonous and a Wine-bibber a friend of Publicans and sinners b Notwithstanding he had this to ballance his loss in this kind that his Wisdom in such deportments of himself was justified by those who were capable of the true nature thereof and of the express and clear tendency in it to those worthy ends projected by it But Wisdom saith he is justified of her children I am all thoughts made that there is no man of a single eye that can discern any thing in the said Queries of an oblique or ignoble tendency or which comporteth with any end whereof such a man who dayly expecteth to appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ needs to be ashamed or which savoureth of any thing in the Author but of a publique spirit and Christian desire to see the Jerusalem of his God in the Land of his pilgrimage in peace and prosperity all his days and in this condition to transmit it to posterity Notwithstanding some upon consultation had with some froward and seducing Oracle have pretended to see a Vision of darkness in those Queries by which they have been admonished to pronounce this hard sentence against their Author that he is a Time-Server a Worshipper of the Greatness of this World If by Time-serving they mean a subjecting a mans self to serve with all diligence and faithfulness the common Interest of the men of the times wherein he liveth as well Great as small as well high as low rich as poor I plead Guilty to the Indictment I have in this sence been a Time-Server of a long time well nigh ever since I was capable of such a service But if by Time-serving be meant any unchristian or unmanlike compliance either with the head or tail of this world for any secular accommodation or Interest of mine own I can wash my hands in the Laver of Davids Innocency and with an erect Conscience profess and say They lay to my charge things that I know not And herein I suppose that all those who have fully known my principles and practise from the beginning will be my Compurgators This I confess that from first to last I have stood close and fast by the present Authority for the time being and have contended with the best of the strength of my understanding for an universal subjection of the Nation in all things lawful unto it When there were two Authorities conflicting that of the late King the other of the Parliament in which case I judged it not meet either to neutralize or amphibolize I joyned the small strength of my hand with that which upon consideration I judged best pleadable and withall most promissory of Civil yea and of Religious Happiness also unto the Land To this Authority I have constantly adhered all along without the least regret or relenting not only in the lowest ebb thereof when its Competitress like a stood was ready to have overwhelmed it but likewise under all that hard measure and those discouraging and sad requitals wherewith it recompenced all my service and faithfulness unto the Interest of it For as on the one hand I still was a zealous Assertor of this Authority and compelled as far as my tongue pen or example had any compulsive power in them all sorts of people in the Land to submit for conscience sake unto it so on the other hand I was as zealously faithful in declaring and asserting the just and lawful bounds of this Authority testifying and perswading it to contain it self within its own sphere witnessing and protesting that if it should prove like Jordan in the time of Harvest and overflow its banks this would endanger the cutting off of the waters and laying the channel of it dry which thing also we all know is come to pass now some while since And though I love not to be too positive in matters of this nature yet I very much incline to conceive that one Reason why God took no more pleasure in the Parliament of the last sitting was their assuming of a Power notoriously incompetent to them as viz. to make that Adultery in Parents which God never made Adultery and that illegitimacy in children which God never made such yea which common reason and equity might have taught them not to be such Yea in these cases they assumed a Power which we may say without the least reflexion of dishonour upon God or the straitening of his Prerogative is incompetent unto God himself For God cannot make things to be such or such without that which is essentially and formally requisite to make them such He cannot make a man without a reasonable Soul nor a wall white without whiteness nor that to be fraud or deceit which in the essence of it is honesty and plain dealing so neither that to be adultery which is naturally and essentially an honest and lawful conjunction If they had repealed the former Law which with a like inconsiderateness made adulteries of such marriages which were not solemnized by the Clergy then so called and the children born in such marriages illegitimate and had only provided by mulcts and penalties or what other means they judged meet against