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A89851	A second answer to Thomas Moore, to that which he calls, his Defence against the poyson, &c. Wherein is shewed the crooked wayes, the Serpent is forced to take to keep God and his creatures at a distance, and yet would do it under the name of a teacher. But is seen to be the same, that perswaded man out from his guide in spirit, and now would keep him so, lest his unclean wayes in the heart of man should be discovered with the spiritual light of Christ; and so man should turn to the Lord, who is that spirit, and the vail be done away, ... Here is also 54. lies gathered out from amongst a multitude more, with T.M. hath heaped up for his defence, against the truth, which he calles the poyson of Satan, which are sent him back to the 48. that I sent him before, that he may either prove them, or they root with the founder, for the truth they touch not. / Set forth to clear the truth from this froth, cast upon it by the enemy thereof, By a friend to the seed of truth, called James Naylor.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1656 (1656)	Wing N314; Thomason E868_9; ESTC R202991	29,892	39

no other but For that which is not immediate from God nor from any light and spirit within must be litterall teachings the letter For sayst thou the preaching of it was given by those great Apostles and of the same vertue or quality that ever it was for teaching all things and afterwards calls it the Anointing and yet denieth any light and spirit within So that all that reads thy Answer shall see that I have spoken nothing but the truth of thee in saying Thou would thrust it to literal teaching and thy crooked ways cannot hide thee But thine own words in another place may put the thing wholly out of doubt where thou saist That the grace of God that brings Salvation to all men instructs them not to look to any light or spirit within them for direction Here would thon thrust out from the light and spirit within to literal teaching contrary both to the Spirit and the Letter also for that which is in Spirit is within and the Letter saith The anointing that you have received of him abideth in you and you need not that any man teach you but as the same Anointing teacheth you of all things Thou goes on to the fifth Query and there thou casts down all thy whole work if thou do'st but mind what thou art there driven to to hide thy self where thou confesses the Comforter that reproves the world and leads into all truth and reaches effectually to be in the heart and cannot be out of it so that by thy Confession now there can be no teaching out of the heart So let any compare this with the rest of thy books and see thy confusion and what shifts thou art driven to to and fro like one stark drunk in thy Imaginations vomiting out thy own shame Is there no teaching out of the heart and the grace of God thou sayes instructs not to look into our selves or to any Light or Spirit within us for direction What a Birth is this thou hast brought forth into the world How will these two agree Or with what divination wilt thou reconcile them No Teaching but in the heart and yet not look within But seeing thou hast confessed that there can be no reproving and Teaching but in the heart let me mind thee of it again lest thou forget it it being a truth I would have thee no more to contradict it Might not thou as well have confessed this long-ago and have spared all thy wranglings and crooked paths thou hast walked in thereby to deny the Light and Spirit within to be the onely Teacher and now confesseth it cannot be out of the heart So if thou own it in thy heart thou maist read thy Condemnation for opposing it all along in both thy books And thou adds another Accusation as false as the rest and that is That I pervert most of the Scriptures I meddle with and for instance thou names that of Jer. 23. 30. which thou sayes I do in the close of my 32 page I say thou shamelesse man were thou not hardened in thy wickednesse past feeling thou would blush to say I pervert a Scripture where I mention none But this is like the rest of thy slanders who can both name the Scripture and pervert it thy self and then slander it upon me that doth not so much as mention it nor any other in that place In thy other thou accused me for perverting Scriptures where I did but quote them as they are without a word adding and now thou accusest me where I quote none nor mention any at all but it 's impossible to escape thy tongue It 's not much to be wondered that thou should call Christ and his Light within which convinceth of sinne nothing but a fancy and as a familiar Spirit as thou do'st It 's a strange Doctrine to thee to know the Son of God condemning sinne in the flesh and so it appears when the Lyar is so strong in thee If thou knew any light in thee but what is thy own fancy the Devil would be reproved and sin condemned did'st thou know Christ in the flesh But the Prince of the world not being udged the Reprobate is Head which knowes not Christ in thee his Light and Spirit which reproves the world and guids into all truth in whom he is known and followed So thy Confession is suitable to thy practice for thou that hath not Christ in thee to condemn sin it 's not like the Devil should condemn what he begets so thy tongue becomes without bridle and thy heart without knowledge that thou do'st evill So deceiving and being deceived is thy work even whilst thou art telling what Christ did on the Cross Thou hast lost the Cross and to the Devil is at liberty in thee unreproved or condemned So not believing in the Light thy self is in the same Condemnation and knows not but is past feeling being heart-blind And thou tells of a Promise thou hast made to prove a Wolf in a sheeps skin and thou wilt prove it out of my Acknowledgment of the righteousness of God wrought in the One Person of Jesus Christ of Nazareth his Sufferings Resurrection and Ascension according to the Scriptures And thou tells of two little words I have left out so it seems that to confess Christ according to the Scripture without two little words more with thee is a Wolf and with such muddy dirty stuff as this not worth naming after thee thou keeps thy promise and fills thy hook And thou sayst I care not how full I make my Acknowledgment of the righteousnesse of GOD wrought in the Death and Resurrection of that Person in that Personal body So they be not understood to be therein finished and need not be wrought in us To which I say that it is the thing most feared by thee and him for whom thou labour'st lest any should look for the righteousnesse of God wrought in them A thing which thou art little guilty of thy self out of whom springs the work of the Devil like a flood yet do we know that the work of righteousness is not ended and finished for any Creature so as to bring them to GOD till God's righteousness be wrought in them A thing the Devil and his Ministers doth now most of all oppose though you confess what was done at Jerusalem yet can he keep his Kingdome in England in every heart wherein God's righteousness is not wrought So righteousness to talk of without but the Devil within is the Doctrine best-pleasing to the Devil and his Ministers But who are his Workmanship have not so learned him which knows Christ in us which thou calls Antichristian and thou that art without Christ with the Lyar in thee would be counted the Christian And further thou sayst the Wolf appears under the sheep-skins in my following Declaration of our Principles To which I say I did lay down 12 particular Heads being the chief things which thou cunningly went about to deny in

is because I tell not all the lying story over again after thee and in these and such like crooked wayes thou goes about to avoid the truth and winde out thy head least it should be bruised therewith and this shall any see who in the light doth but read thy books and my answer wherein I might trace thee into every particular were it needful or dark to the least simplicity Also in other places where thy escape will not serve thee with a seeming shew of truth before thou stick thou wilt forge an absolute lie As for instance page 9. where thou mentionest my charging thee to say that none have yet ceased from their own works To which thou sayes thy Tayings are that none here have yet so ceased from their own works c. To prove which words thou quotes Antepage 44. which all that read that page shall read thee a lyer thereby to accuse the truth for these words are not so there nor any where else that I have yet seen and so according to the Doctrine to thee it is who hast not yet ceased from thy own works who art yet a lyer and covering one lie with another carping at words when I speak the sence to make me a lier when thou canst not hit thy own words but he that is come to Christ is ceased from his own works who is become Gods workmanship but the Serpent hath no portion here and so would exclude all others who knowes no better but to believe him but where God works all our work in us he ordains peace there and such are entred into the Rest the Serpent knowes not Isay 26. 52. Phil. 2. 13. but they which did believe were entred into rest Heb. 4. 3. but thy Sophistry is to keep people from looking for any rest from their own works till they be cut off by death and can serve the Devil no longer and so art one of those who will neither enter thy selfe nor suffer those that would like the rest of thy Fathers who art seeking to overthrow the faith by thy lying Divination For the Devil knowes unbelief is that which keeps from entring into rest so he strikes off Faith But many are entred in who have heard his voice and such will believe thee no longer for thou casts out thy flood after such as is out of thy reach Another way thou hast that when I tell thee of thy lies and deceits in thy book lest people should find them thou sets them to seek in another page where thou hast made some cover for that deceit and not in the place in which it is spoken and thus thou shuffles to hide thy selfe lest thou should be discovered in plainness to the simple Instance that about the Resurrection Another way thou hast with thy Divination to turn a thing quite contrary to what I both speak and intend and this is usuall to thee in most places of thy book Instance thy 55. page thou having in thy first book seemed to deny any other manner of preaching then which was left by the Apostles to which I answer Then you may spare your pains you Steeple-house-Teachers who are out of the manner yea and matter also and with thy divination thou turns this that I would set up a new manner of teaching of two or three years standing when both my words and end is to establish the old way and therefore deny your Idoll-worship which is out of it your preaching and Printing And in some of these wayes or some other such like crooked way hast thou cast a mist over the truths wherewith I have laid open thy deceits yet canst thou blinde none therewith but thy own Generation who are blinde already and as any of them mindes the light in spirit which thou so much opposest they shall see thee and thy deceit also And now having a little opened the way to all who desires to know the truth that they thereby may see all the rest of thy rotten Covers I shall not much contend about words but leave the truth to manifest it selfe to all who in the principle of truth reads our books and enquires after it and they who will be filthy and loves deceit in thy book may cover themselves therewith Thou goes on saying We come to give some Instances of his false charges and you mention some perticular things To which I say how many that we is thou speaks on you know not further then that there is Legions against the Lamb but to that I have said I shall make it appear to be true as to the true intent of thy Doctrine without the least desire to aggravate as follows First As to thy seeking to exclude God and Christ the spirit and light out of the world and that he should no more dwell in his people till dooms-day and so on to all the rest To which I say thy words are that it cannot be properly said that in a full and absolute sense God was or is manifest in the flesh of any naturall Son of Adam in the time of his Mortality where it is plain thou excludes all Mortality with all the time till Dooms-day If not let the wise judge as for thy word naturall thou hast thrust into blinde people with it is of no force in that place unless thou prove that all men must be in their naturall estate during the time of their Mortality which indeed best suits thy end and condition and as for the spirit thou calls it as Popery to confess a spirit within to open the Scriptures and the light within thou compares to a familiar spirit In another place thou sayes God was not God is manifest in the flesh which words not God is is as absolute a deny all as can be made and so preaches him not onely out of the world but out of all the Saints and thy self thou sayst also the Word Christ is personally absent from us while in these bodies And in another place speaking of the manifestation of God thou sayes in that one person not in divers and this is to deny the Father and the Son for he that hath not the Father hath not the Son and he that hath not the Son hath not life and so this preaches an eternall separation between the Creature and the Creator and keeps God out of his dwelling-place denies him present to judge rule and guid and this preaches him out of the heart and not to be manifest in the flesh and the whole is herein proved upon thee which I have said out of thy own mouth and whereas thou would shuffle out by saying thou dost but uphold that Scripture Paul speaks to Timothy Isay Paul sayes no such words as that God is not manifest in flesh that 's thy own therewith to deny God in the flesh for Paul saith Great is the Mystery and speaks of what Timothy should wait for then in him that so by God manifest in him he might know how to behave himself

believed or received in others thou hast sufficiently manifested herein if thou hadst said no more nor did the Apostle speak of them that minded the light or spirit within but of them that minded earthly things minding your bellies more then the work of God as thou and thy Companions did at the dispute who broke it up because it was an hour past dinner time such are belly Gods and not they who minde the light or spirit of Christ within them And let all honest people judge what it is thy deceitful lips will not make the Scriptures speak who would make the sence of the Apostles words to intend against minding a spirituall light within whose words is of such as minde earthly things yet in this as in all other of thy deceits which thou darst not plainly a vouch thou so layes down the thing as to leave thy self a way to escape if thou be taxed for thy falshood as by thy words some pretended light opposed to Christ when any may see thy envy is at the light of Christ and his spirit within for no other do we pretend and this is not opposire to Christ as he is in Heaven but the only thing that revealeth him in spirit And thou layest down two Reasons to prove thy deceits which no Scripture will the first opposing that the Apostle did mean Earth-worms in a grosse and carnall sence and in thy second thou sayst they were walkers Brethren they had not such a form of godliness as stood in talking only but in walking also In the first whereof thou strikest at the Apostles words who said they minded earthly things but thou sayst not Earth-worms and in thy second thou strikes at uptight walking yet doth neither of them prove any thing for the further then thy confusion And thou wouldst prove me to be one whose God is my belly and the thing thou wouldst prove it withall is because I say the Apostles preached the spirit and light within shining in their hearts to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus and this Treasure they had in Earthen Vessels but if angred 2 Cor. 4. 6 7. they may see that instead of proving me one whose God is my belly thou hast proved thy self one whose Father is the Devill who saith the Apostle saith no such thing but saith it s my spirit of Antichrist so let plain Scripture judge which is good reason that it should be believed before thy lying spirit who goeth on to deny the spirit and light to shine into their hearts as though God would shine into their hearts without his spirit and light and such dark stuffe thou utters who knowest not his spirit and light mangling thy confusions to darken the truth as though I had said their hearts should give them the glory of God without his light and spirit when my words are with the Apostle and all the Servants of God who witness the light and spirit to give the knowledge of God without which there can be no knowledge of God which Treasure is in the Earthen Vessels which words thou leavest out lest they should have spoyled thy design in perverting the words and deceiving the simple And thou makest much adoe in thy Book to drive a believers light far distant without as far from them as to the place where Christ was crucified saying he that was crucified on the Tree was the fountain of Believers light which though he be the fountain to those who have him in them yet is he known to none but by hear-say who have him not to such the fountain is sealed therefore dost thou blind utter forth so much of thy folly who imagineth a fountain without thee but darkness within which cannot comprehend the light though in the darkness it shine and the Devill himself knowes what was done upon Mount Calvary and the wickedst men in the Nation as well as thee who hast it not in thee so you believe in a Tradition who have not the Revelation And thou makes a babling to blinde people with as that the Apostle preached not the Earthen Vessels or themselves I say those are thy own words for none else I know that intends them or mentions them but the most of thy bustling in thy Book is to wrest my words or to add to them thy own and so start a lye out of thy own bosom and when thou hast done much to do thou makes to conflite it and this pleaseth thy fancy as though thou hadst done some great thing when thou hast but confuted thy self and laid open thy solly And thou goest creeping about to make people believe that Christ is not a spirit but darst not deny it yet as thy manner is casts a mist before it Christ in spirit being that thou seeks most to oppose for nothing else discovereth the 2 Cor. 5 16. Devills seat in man and therefore said the Apostle I know him no more after the flesh and When they shall turn to the Lord the vail shall be taken away now the Lord is that spirit and where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty 2 Cor. 3. 16 17 but this liberty breaketh the Devills Kingdom therefore his Ministers he sets to keep people without in the letter imagining a thing at a distance but to believe the appearance of Christ in spirit that is death to him and his Ministry and whereas thou tells of Christ being glorified in Heaven in your nature I say Christ was never of the nature of the lyer neither in Heaven nor on Earth though he was flesh yet it was not that which lusteth against the spirit none knowes his flesh nor nature but who knowes the word in them which thou opposeth which art full of the old Leaven and thou askestance a question of the Scriptures say the same so take thy Question back and apply it to thy self In thy first Book thou made an objection Can flesh and blood enter into the Kingdom of Heaven and thou answers No yet the same flesh and bones may the blood being powred out and gone to which answer what confused stuffe is this that proceeds from thy imaginations Is Christ ascended without blood or is it onely the blood of people that keeps the in from ascending which they must leave behinde them taking the same flesh and bones but not the same blood and in this Book thou excuses the matter with saying he is ascended without material blood and yet with the vertues of that blood I say again hath he materiall flesh and bones and not materiall blood then is he not the same that he was when he was upon earth But why dost thou not make some answer to thy other clause how people must do to get shut of their blood seeing thy faith is they cannot ascend till their blood be poured forth This being a new Doctrine which the Scripture doth not declare of it stands in need of better grounds then yet thou hast

laid down if thou intends any to believe thee therein and this is like the rest of thy stuffe out of the dark bottle fit for such a believer to receive then grounds● of whose faith are other mens words from their Imaginations where the word of God is personally absent and know neither light nor spirit of God within them And much adoe thou makes and many crooked wayes thou takes to preach Jerusalem out of this world and that must be alwayes to come and that yet it came not from God to any and to disprove that which John spoke in Rev. 21. 2. 10. who saw the new Jerusalem thou sayst that was but a Vision and from that thou conjurest up a deal of thy own filth to cast upon me not worth mentioning after thee but this I say to thee thou must first see thy self in Babylon yea and the slandeous mouth slopt ere thou knowest the new Jerusalem the City of God or his dwelling place the lyars and 〈◊〉 are with one and now it is seen in the Mount of God asking of Vision seen by others but the strong man keeping the house and thou joyned with him so bring forth his works opposing thy self an enemy of Sion and her Children who are come and comming to their rest which thou would destroy the faith concerning God Christ the word their In-dwelling in the Saints as in thy first Book who would deny that the Apostles preached the word and faith in the hearr And when I instanced that place Rom. 10. 8 9. where the Apostle saith The word of faith is migh in the heart In this book thou would'st cast a mist before it least any should look for it there saying he saith not the word and faith but the word of faith And sayst thou he saith not simply in their hearts but nigh them in their hearts What shifts is the Devil put to to keep Creatures from looking what God hath placed in their hearts where God hath written his Law and placed his word a guide to all that minde it what shameful shifts art thou put to lest the Devil should be discovered in the heart and his Kingdom fall Is not the word and faith where the word of faith is if ever that Creature come to faith or can any have either of them but in their hearts And doth not the Apostle say they are in their hearts because he saith they are nigh them in their hearts But from the word nigh if thy divination fail not thou wilt attempt to preach them clear out of the heart so that which the Apostle saith nigh in the heart by thy will must never come near the heart but would put word and faith as far off as thou hast put Grace and Light who saith The Grace of God that bringeth salvation teacheth not to look to any light within for direction And as thou dealest concerning God Christ The word Faith and light so dost thou with the City of the living God being blinde thy self would keep all at a distance from others such are thy Visions such as thy Imaginations But seeing thou would put that Jerusalem John saw out of the expectations of any whilest the world stands Read Heb. 12. 22. And judge if thou canst of that Heavenly Jerusalem whether that was a Vision also and whether the Apostle spoke truth when he said the Hebrews was come to the City of the living God to the Heavenly Jerusalem salem but they had denyed Babels Builders and the Idoll-Priests and their Idoll-worship else could not they have seen an entrance into Sion a City which thou hast sufficiently cleared thy self to be ignorant of And thou askest where did James read of its being taken away after its comming down from Heaven I say in thee I read it and thy Generation whose work is to deny it present I need go no further for proof then thy own Books As for the rest of thy heap of confusion thy lies thy slanders and thy threatnings be they to thy self for me they touch not but seeing thou denyest Jerusalem what City was that the Ephesians was Citizens of with the Saints which was builded upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophers Jesus Christ himself being the chief Corner-stone in whom they was builded a habitation of God Ephes 2. 19. 20 21 22. was not this the City of the living God the new Jerusalem but this makes ill for thy Doctrine whose work is to preach God out of his people yet when thou writest again let us see what a shift the Serpent hath to avoid this for he must be discovered in all his holes and thou canst not hide him Yet didst thou but declare thy own experience I should not contend with thee knowing thou canst declare no more of God his word his light his faith his dwelling place then thou knowest But seeing thou goes about to limit God out of his dwelling in the hearts of his people in faithfulness to God and love to souls I can do no lesse then bear testimony against thee and thy work which is contrary to the Ministers of Christ who preached reconciliation to God and God in his people but thou preaches division and separation and thy work is against any believing reconciliation And because I tell thee of thy shuffling in thy Answer to thy third Query which asks Where the Covenant of God is having respect to the manifestation of it to the Creature for so is the intent of the Query And because I tell thee thou shuffles and answers not to the Question thou tells me therein I have crodden undersoot the Son of God and put him to open shame and that there is no more sacrifice for sin I say it is thy deceit I tread upon and puts to open shame which is for open shame before the Son of God who is the Sacrifice and remains a Witness against thy confusion The fourth Query thou pretended to answer asks What and where that anointing is c. And because I tell thee thou would'st put that to literal teaching thou rakes up a Seal of thy own Imaginations out of thy own bosome to cast upon me as though I had said That the name of God in Christ Jesus is no better then literal Teaching when my Answer is to reprove thee for setting litteral-teaching instead of the Unction and Name of Christ And that thou do'st thrust out from the Spirit within to the Litteral-teaching thy Answer doth clearly manifest though first to cover it with thou makes a Confession to the person of Christ and such like words to blind the eye lest thy intent should be seen Afterward thou comes to tell what the summe of this Anointing is the sum of the Gospel concerning Christ which thou saist is meant the things heard from the beginning called the Anointing which after thou brings to the writings of Paul to Timothy And following it a little further thou brings it to be the same to this day which is