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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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posteriety_n of_o such_o parent_n as_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n plant_v by_o the_o apostle_n else_o can_v we_o not_o have_v apostate_v 2._o that_o people_n which_o the_o apostle_n gather_v into_o church_n be_v never_o baptize_v and_o baptism_n come_v in_o steed_n of_o circumcision_n and_o be_v a_o seal_n of_o our_o enter_v into_o god_n covenant_n it_o be_v fit_a that_o they_o which_o believe_v and_o become_v the_o seed_n of_o abrah_n shall_v so_o enter_v in_o to_o covenant_n they_o &_o their_o seed_n as_o he_o &_o his_o seed_n enter_v that_o be_v as_o he_o &_o he_o be_v receive_v in_o by_o circumcision_n so_o they_o &_o they_o shall_v be_v receve_v in_o by_o baptism_n act._n 2._o 38._o 41._o &_o 8._o 38._o but_o we_o be_v a_o people_n that_o be_v already_o baptize_v &_o the_o seed_n of_o they_o that_o be_v baptize_v &_o have_v receive_v the_o gospel_n and_o although_o through_o antichrist_n deceaveablenes_n both_o we_o and_o they_o be_v taint_v with_o many_o corruption_n yet_o 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out_o of_o moses_n &_o 44._o character_n pag._n 44._o the_o prophet_n but_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n that_o find_v fault_n to_o be_v set_v again_o to_o the_o school_n to_o moses_n why_o say_v you_o “_o we_o must_v attain_v to_o and_o learn_v all_o that_o the_o schoolmaster_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n can_v teach_v us._n do_v not_o you_o herein_o set_v we_o to_o school_v to_o moses_n but_o it_o seem_v you_o be_v past_a moses_n teach_v i_o will_v wish_v you_o be_v not_o past_o christ_n also_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v not_o so_o abrogate_a that_o withal_o the_o †_o write_n of_o moses_n and_o of_o the_o 21._o 2_o tim._n 3._o ●_o 17._o pet._n 1._o 9_o 21._o prophet_n cease_v to_o be_v in_o force_n
such_o imputation_n but_o yourself_o be_v become_v faulty_a in_o calumniate_a the_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n viz_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n account_v it_o a_o antichristian_a error_n which_o i_o wish_v you_o well_o to_o consider_v of_o and_o not_o to_o add_v sin_n unto_o sin_n both_o in_o plead_v for_o error_n and_o in_o disgrace_v the_o truth_n and_o the_o professor_n thereof_o further_o you_o say_v it_o will_v not_o help_v i_o that_o these_o two_o truth_n have_v be_v condemn_v for_o heresy_n by_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n for_o if_o the_o apostle_n afford_v contrary_a to_o the_o succeed_a age_n that_o which_o be_v most_o ancient_a be_v the_o truth_n i_o grant_v if_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n age_n affoard_v contrary_a to_o the_o succeed_a age_n for_o the_o iustifieng_v of_o these_o your_o opinion_n that_o then_o you_o have_v good_a warrant_n of_o your_o side_n for_o call_v they_o truth_n but_o if_o the_o church_n which_o have_v condemn_v your_o position_n 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mat._n 11._o 6._o but_o if_o you_o which_o have_v stand_v for_o the_o truth_n shall_v now_o by_o publish_v of_o error_n cause_n the_o truth_n to_o be_v the_o more_o blaspheme_v &_o give_v offence_n to_o weak_a professor_n that_o be_v your_o sin_n and_o will_v be_v too_o heavy_a to_o be_v answer_v at_o the_o judgement_n day_n if_o you_o repent_v not_o and_o as_o for_o our_o church_n which_o you_o blasphemous_o call_v antichristian_a know_v you_o that_o i_o do_v not_o fear_v the_o fall_n of_o it_o for_o it_o be_v build_v upon_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o apostle_n &_o prophet_n jesus_n christ_n himself_o be_v the_o chief_a corner_n stone_n ephe._n 2_o 20._o which_o have_v a_o sure_a promise_n that_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o mat._n 16._o 18._o and_o therefore_o your_o anathema_n can_v hurt_v we_o but_o shall_v rebound_v back_o again_o whence_o it_o come_v 4._o you_o say_v though_o i_o have_v profess_v to_o forsake_v my_o error_n upon_o their_o 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