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A12484 Of the author and substance of the protestant church and religion two bookes. Written first in Latin by R.S. Doctour of Diuinity, and now reuiewed by the author, and translated into English by VV. Bas.; De auctore et essentia Protestanticae Ecclesiae et religionis libri duo. English Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.; Bas., W. 1621 (1621) STC 22812; ESTC S117611 239,031 514

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renewer_n of_o evangelicall_a truth_n and_o doctrine_n bucer_n resp_n ad_fw-la episc_n abrincen_v pag._n 613._o write_v that_o god_n by_o luther_n have_v merueilous_o and_o happy_o restore_v the_o sum_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o our_o age_n religion_n restore_v the_o sum_n of_o the_o gospel_n restore_v religion_n d._n whitaker_n count_v 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 12._o pag._n 528_o luther_n only_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o restore_v religion_n corrupt_v and_o to_o renew_v the_o ancient_a and_o true_a doctrine_n and_o ad_fw-la rat._n 10._o campiani_n call_v he_o the_o renewer_n of_o the_o old_a say_v or_o as_o the_o english_a apology_n term_v he_o the_o promulgator_n of_o this_o doctrine_n d._n humphrey_n in_o prolegomenis_fw-la pag._n 82._o say_v we_o reverence_v luther_n as_o a_o great_a renewer_n of_o religion_n and_o what_o be_v it_o to_o be_v a_o renewer_n restorer_n settler_n of_o a_o thing_n corrupt_v especial_o if_o he_o restore_v the_o sum_n thereof_o as_o bucer_n say_v that_o 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7._o fol._n 384._o 388._o luther_n also_o evil_a conscience_n speak_v much_o beside_o the_o matter_n but_o little_a to_o the_o purpose_n and_o seldom_o come_v to_o it_o and_o he_o note_v that_o it_o be_v the_o art_n and_o nimbleness_n of_o heretic_n to_o skip_v over_o the_o matter_n and_o difficulty_n whitaker_n pronounce_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o most_o desperate_a cause_n not_o to_o touch_v the_o matter_n and_o d_o 243._o d_o defence_n of_o serm_n p._n 243._o bilson_n to_o this_o thou_o answeare_v nothing_o and_o therefore_o all_o wise_a man_n conclude_v that_o thou_o can_v not_o maintain_v that_o which_o i_o then_o do_v disprove_v d_o suclive_a lib._n 2_o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 1_o the_o rest_n because_o they_o say_v nothing_o to_o it_o i_o will_v take_v for_o grant_v for_o if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o hope_n of_o refute_v it_o or_o any_o place_n of_o calmuniate_a without_o doubt_n they_o will_v not_o have_v be_v silent_a and_o m_o 1._o m_o pro_fw-la tortura_fw-la forti_fw-la c._n 1._o burhill_n among_o the_o wise_a both_o of_o our_o side_n and_o you_o a●tergiversatour_n do_v no_o less_o hurt_v his_o cause_n then_o a_o bewrayer_n for_o he_o seem_v to_o consent_v &_o grant_v who_o then_o hold_v his_o peace_n when_o silence_n be_v suspicious_a 4._o three_o touch_v the_o exposition_n of_o the_o testimony_n let_v he_o observe_v that_o when_o the_o word_n be_v clear_a and_o their_o sense_n manifest_a he_o do_v not_o expound_v they_o or_o wrest_v they_o to_o another_o meaning_n for_o first_o if_o clear_a word_n must_v be_v expound_v there_o will_v be_v no_o end_n of_o expound_v again_o to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v he_o expound_v those_o word_n which_o need_v no_o exposition_n this_o be_v as_o apost_n as_o serm._n 14._o the_o verb_n apost_n s._n augustin_n say_v no_o other_o then_o to_o go_v about_o to_o bring_v darkness_n into_o open_a light_n beside_o protestant_n themselves_o say_v that_o clear_a word_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v expound_v for_o thus_o carolstad_n thus_o luther_n co_fw-la 2._o ep_n ad_fw-la carolstad_n luther_n this_o rule_n that_o one_o place_n be_v to_o be_v expound_v by_o another_o without_o doubt_n be_v particular_a to_o wit_v a_o doubtful_a or_o obscure_a place_n must_v be_v expound_v by_o another_o that_o be_v certain_a and_o clear_a for_o to_o expound_v certain_a and_o clear_a place_n by_o conference_n of_o other_o place_n be_v wicked_o to_o mock_v truth_n and_o to_o bring_v cloud_n into_o light_n the_o minister_n of_o saxony_n in_o 303._o in_o pa._n 303._o colloq_fw-la aldeburg_n say_v to_o their_o fellow_n let_v they_o remember_v that_o exposition_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v in_o clear_a place_n and_o those_o of_o 161._o of_o hospin_n fol._n 161._o zurich_n then_o there_o be_v need_n of_o declaration_n when_o the_o word_n &_o sense_n thereof_o be_v obscure_a and_o melancthon_n nothing_o can_v be_v say_v so_o proper_o so_o plain_o advise_o which_o may_v not_o be_v deprave_a by_o some_o cavillation_n beza_n 41_o beza_n ep._n 41_o also_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o wrest_v other_o man_n writing_n and_o m._n dominis_n 3._o dominis_n l._n 1._o c._n 3._o let_v those_o word_n which_o be_v clear_a be_v keep_v in_o their_o proper_a and_o plain_a sense_n 5._o four_o let_v he_o observe_v that_o in_o expound_v the_o protestant_n testimony_n he_o devise_v not_o hyperbole_n or_o figure_n at_o his_o pleasure_n but_o let_v he_o bring_v good_a reason_n why_o he_o expound_v they_o figurative_o either_o deny_a say_v 13._o say_v cont._n prax._n c._n 13._o tertullian_n that_o these_o be_v write_v or_o who_o be_v thou_o that_o thou_o deny_v that_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v take_v as_o they_o be_v write_v and_o the_o protestant_n in_o admonit_n de_fw-fr lib._n concord_n cap._n 3._o say_v if_o they_o will_v not_o that_o these_o shall_v be_v understand_v as_o they_o sound_v why_o speak_v they_o so_o and_o brentius_n in_o recognit_n pag._n 148._o what_o liberty_n what_o temerity_n be_v this_o of_o abuse_v word_n and_o devise_v a_o new_a grammar_n for_o first_o the_o rule_n of_o understand_v man_n word_n be_v that_o they_o be_v take_v according_a to_o their_o proper_a and_o common_a signification_n unless_o the_o writer_n or_o speaker_n do_v by_o some_o way_n declare_v the_o contrary_n whereupon_o 473._o whereupon_o tom._n 2._o fol._n 473._o luther_n say_v we_o have_v overcome_v that_o word_n be_v to_o be_v take_v in_o their_o natural_a sense_n except_o the_o contrary_n be_v demonstrate_v and_o 4._o and_o colloq_fw-la c._n 8._o diu._n 4._o d._n rainolds_n that_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o word_n in_o which_o they_o be_v common_o take_v beside_o otherwise_o all_o force_n of_o prove_v any_o thing_n by_o any_o word_n of_o god_n or_o man_n be_v quite_o go_v note_n note_n for_o since_o all_o the_o force_n of_o such_o proof_n stand_v in_o the_o sense_n if_o this_o be_v uncertain_a and_o must_v be_v proper_a or_o figurative_a according_a as_o the_o hearer_n or_o reader_n will_v all_o the_o force_n of_o the_o proof_n shall_v depend_v upon_o the_o will_n of_o the_o hearer_n or_o reader_n and_o hence_o it_o proceed_v that_o the_o proof_n which_o catholic_n make_v out_o of_o scripture_n against_o heretic_n seem_v to_o some_o not_o to_o convince_v they_o which_o fall_v out_o not_o for_o defect_n in_o the_o proof_n themselves_o but_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o they_o to_o wit_n because_o they_o be_v take_v from_o word_n which_o heretic_n will_v expound_v at_o their_o pleasure_n and_o if_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n observe_v in_o expound_v word_n but_o they_o be_v wrest_v at_o every_o one_o fancy_n what_o marvel_n be_v there_o if_o heretic_n can_v be_v convince_v either_o by_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n or_o any_o other_o whatsoever_o moreover_o if_o at_o the_o will_n of_o the_o reader_n or_o hearer_n word_n may_v be_v expound_v either_o proper_o or_o figurative_o he_o that_o tell_v the_o great_a untruth_n may_v be_v think_v to_o tell_v the_o great_a truth_n &_o contrariwyse_o be_v that_o speak_v most_o pious_o may_v be_v judge_v to_o speak_v most_o impious_o hereupon_o say_v 489._o say_v tom._n 2._o fol._n 489._o luther_n if_o this_o licence_n reign_v i_o may_v interpret_v all_o thing_n fit_o whatsoever_o either_o heretic_n or_o the_o devil_n himself_o have_v do_v or_o say_v or_o can_v do_v or_o say_v for_o ever_o where_o then_o shall_v be_v the_o mean_n to_o refel_v a_o heretik_a or_o the_o devil_n and_o 220._o and_o ib_a fol._n 220._o again_o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o play_v with_o figure_n at_o pleasure_n without_o yield_v any_o reason_n what_o hinder_v but_o that_o all_o word_n have_v new_a sense_n furthermore_o it_o be_v the_o custom_n or_o heretic_n to_o devise_v figure_n of_o their_o pleasure_n thus_o serap_n thus_o epist_n ad_fw-la serap_n s._n athanasius_n