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idolatry_n 2._o that_o the_o answer_v give_v by_o st._n austin_n do_v not_o vindicate_v they_o now_o as_o well_o as_o then_o §_o 3._o 1._o concern_v the_o disparity_n 1._o as_o to_o the_o object_n of_o worship_n he_o abhor_v from_o his_o heart_n to_o parallel_v the_o hâ—ly_a angel_n and_o saint_n with_o the_o impure_a deity_n of_o the_o heathen_n as_o to_o their_o excellency_n no._n he_o have_v more_o honour_n for_o they_o than_o not_o to_o think_v they_o more_o excellent_a than_o devil_n or_o wicked_a wretch_n i_o suppose_v in_o case_n they_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n for_o their_o sanctity_n otherwise_o it_o may_v go_v hard_a with_o the_o best_a of_o they_o shall_v he_o proceed_v in_o the_o same_o form_n with_o all_o the_o rest_n as_o he_o do_v a_o little_a below_o with_o st._n ignatius_n but_o suppose_v they_o at_o present_a to_o be_v more_o excellent_a than_o the_o impure_a deity_n of_o the_o heathen_n yet_o if_o the_o idolatry_n of_o the_o heathen_n say_v he_o 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