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A18690 A mirrour of Popish subtilties discouering sundry wretched and miserable euasions and shifts which a secret cauilling Papist in the behalfe of one Paul Spence priest, yet liuing and lately prisoner in the castle of Worcester, hath gathered out of Sanders, Bellarmine, and others, for the auoyding and discrediting of sundrie allegations of scriptures and fathers, against the doctrine of the Church of Rome, concerning sacraments, the sacrifice of the masse, transubstantiation, iustification, &c. Written by Rob. Abbot, minister of the word of God in the citie of Worcester. The contents see in the next page after the preface to the reader. Perused and allowed. Abbot, Robert, 1560-1618. 1594 (1594) STC 52; ESTC S108344 245,389 257

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this_o be_v to_o be_v apply_v for_o if_o it_o be_v say_v this_o bread_n which_o be_v the_o very_a truth_n than_o they_o see_v that_o transubstantiation_n can_v stand_v therefore_o have_v they_o profane_v the_o sacred_a word_n of_o christ_n with_o their_o curse_a sophistication_n and_o have_v most_o wretched_o toss_v they_o too_o and_o fro_o to_o make_v a_o meaning_n of_o they_o that_o may_v serve_v for_o their_o purpose_n &_o yet_o have_v find_v none_o but_o the_o answ_n set_v down_o the_o meaning_n thus_o this_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n be_v my_o body_n so_o that_o the_o word_n this_o must_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o what_o figure_n the_o old_a figure_n even_o the_o same_o say_v he_o that_o melchisedech_n use_v and_o what_o be_v that_o old_a figure_n marry_o it_o be_v bread_n then_o we_o have_v the_o exposition_n of_o christ_n word_n as_o we_o will_v have_v it_o this_o be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v to_o say_v this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n and_o this_o be_v manifest_a to_o be_v tertullia_n mind_n by_o that_o he_o say_v twice_o in_o this_o place_n that_o christ_n call_v breed_v his_o body_n and_o in_o his_o book_n against_o the_o jew_n say_v in_o like_a sort_n that_o he_o call_v bread_n his_o body_n and_o in_o his_o first_o book_n against_o martion_n say_v again_o that_o christ_n represent_v his_o body_n by_o bread_n now_o if_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n call_v bread_n his_o body_n and_o by_o bread_n do_v represent_v his_o body_n than_o it_o follow_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v bread_n which_o be_v call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o be_v so_o call_v because_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v represent_v thereby_o therefore_o the_o meaning_n of_o christ_n word_n must_v needs_o be_v thus_o this_o bread_n be_v the_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n this_o be_v sufficient_a for_o the_o open_n of_o tertullia_n mind_n in_o this_o point_n but_o yet_o i_o will_v follow_v the_o answ_n to_o sift_v the_o matter_n somewhat_o 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gospel_n do_v fulfil_v the_o same_o so_o say_v s._n hierom_n 26._o hierom_n hieron_n in_o mat._n 26._o christ_n take_v bread_n &_o go_v to_o the_o true_a sacrament_n of_o the_o passover_o that_o as_o melchisedech_n the_o priest_n of_o the_o high_a god_n in_o prefigure_v of_o he_o offering_z bread_n and_o wine_n have_v do_v so_o he_o himself_o also_o may_v represent_v the_o truth_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n therefore_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o melchisedech_n yet_o serve_v it_o my_o purpose_n and_o not_o his_o that_o christ_n institute_v bread_n and_o wine_n to_o represent_v thereby_o the_o truth_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n as_o melchisedech_n have_v prefigure_v he_o shall_v do_v but_o the_o truth_n be_v
tertullian_n speak_v not_o of_o melchisedech_n he_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o intimate_v any_o thing_n of_o he_o and_o the_o answ_n for_o that_o he_o read_v the_o place_n can_v not_o but_o know_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o mean_v as_o touch_v melchisedech_n and_o therefore_o in_o upbraid_v we_o with_o steal_v of_o scrap_n out_o of_o the_o father_n because_o we_o use_v this_o place_n he_o give_v i_o occasion_n to_o charge_v he_o with_o voluntary_a and_o wilful_a falsify_v of_o their_o word_n but_o i_o leave_v that_o to_o his_o own_o conscience_n whether_o he_o do_v purposely_o seek_v by_o this_o bad_a mean_n to_o add_v the_o more_o likelihood_n unto_o a_o false_a tale_n tertullian_n say_v nothing_o here_o to_o intimate_v that_o the_o very_a creature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v use_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o only_o expound_v some_o place_n where_o the_o name_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v so_o use_v as_o that_o thereby_o shall_v be_v signify_v the_o same_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o this_o purpose_n he_o allege_v the_o word_n of_o jeremy_n as_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a text_n read_v they_o 19_o they_o jer._n 11._o 19_o let_v we_o cast_v the_o wood_n upon_o his_o bread_n that_o be_v say_v he_o the_o cross_n upon_o his_o body_n as_o note_v that_o by_o the_o name_n of_o bread_n the_o prophet_n signify_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n therefore_o he_o add_v christ_n the_o revealer_n of_o antiquity_n call_v bread_n his_o body_n do_v sufficient_o declare_v what_o his_o will_n be_v that_o bread_n shall_v then_o signify_v whereby_o he_o give_v to_o understand_v that_o as_o the_o prophet_n do_v use_v the_o name_n of_o bread_n to_o signify_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n so_o christ_n himself_o to_o justify_v that_o speech_n of_o the_o prophet_n do_v institute_v bread_n itself_o to_o be_v the_o sign_n and_o sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n and_o according_o call_v it_o his_o body_n another_o like_a speech_n he_o recite_v concern_v wine_n out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o jacob_n the_o patriarch_n 11._o patriarch_n gen._n 49._o 11._o he_o shall_v wash_v his_o garment_n in_o wine_n and_o his_o clothing_n in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o grape_n where_o by_o the_o garment_n and_o clothing_n he_o understand_v the_o body_n and_o flesh_n of_o christ_n by_o wine_n the_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o if_o jacob_n shall_v foretell_v in_o those_o word_n that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v imbrue_v with_o the_o shed_v of_o his_o blood_n hereupon_o he_o infer_v he_o that_o then_o figure_a wine_n in_o blood_n have_v now_o consecrate_v his_o blood_n in_o wine_n note_v hereby_o not_o that_o blood_n indeed_o be_v use_v for_o a_o figure_n of_o wine_n but_o that_o the_o name_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o grape_n serve_v to_o signify_v wine_n as_o prefigure_v that_o wine_n it_o sel●●_n shall_v be_v appoint_v to_o be_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n now_o this_o be_v fulfil_v by_o christ_n when_o he_o consecrate_v his_o blood_n in_o wine_n that_o be_v to_o say_v make_v the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o blood_n in_o wine_n or_o appoint_v wine_n in_o truth_n to_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o blood_n for_o signification_n whereof_o the_o name_n of_o wine_n have_v be_v before_o use_v the_o old_a figure_n the_o refore_o of_o which_o tertullian_n speak_v say_v that_o we_o may_v acknowledge_v a_o old_a figure_n in_o wine_n be_v in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o name_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n not_o of_o bread_n and_o wine_n indeed_o and_o that_o which_o by_o this_o old_a figure_n and_o manner_n of_o speak_v be_v intimate_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n christ_n perform_v and_o fulfil_v in_o the_o new_a when_o he_o consecrate_v and_o sanctify_v his_o creature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n to_o be_v sacrament_n and_o figure_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o by_o name_n according_o call_v they_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n which_o manner_n of_o speak_v he_o have_v not_o approve_v but_o frustrate_v if_o in_o make_v the_o sacrament_n he_o have_v destroy_v the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n for_o than_o he_o can_v not_o have_v call_v bread_n his_o body_n and_o wine_n his_o blood_n as_o tertullian_n say_v he_o do_v now_o therefore_o that_o which_o the_o answ_n say_v that_o figure_n be_v of_o the_o old_a testament_n &_o christ_n fulfil_v they_o in_o the_o new_a make_v nothing_o against_o we_o nay_o set_v aside_o the_o error_n of_o the_o answ_n it_o make_v whole_o for_o us._n for_o he_o vain_o fanci_v tertullian_n to_o say_v that_o the_o very_a element_n of_o bread_n &_o wine_n be_v use_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n for_o figure_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o that_o the_o same_o shall_v not_o be_v again_o appoint_v to_o that_o use_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n whereas_o tertullian_n say_v no_o more_o but_o only_o that_o the_o name_n or_o word_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v sometime_o take_v to_o signify_v the_o same_o now_o then_o let_v he_o remember_v that_o turtullian_n avouch_v the_o fulfil_n of_o this_o figure_n in_o this_o that_o christ_n call_v breed_v his_o body_n and_o wine_n his_o blood_n and_o let_v he_o say_v with_o we_o according_a to_o tertullia_n mind_n that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v bread_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v call_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o the_o meaning_n of_o christ_n word_n be_v this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n now_o hereby_o tertullian_n prove_v that_o christ_n have_v a_o true_a substantial_a body_n for_o say_v he_o it_o have_v be_v no_o figure_n except_o there_o be_v a_o true_a body_n for_o a_o empty_a thing_n as_o be_v a_o fantasy_n may_v not_o have_v be_v capable_a of_o a_o figure_n but_o here_o the_o answ_n will_v make_v we_o believe_v that_o unless_o tertullian_n mean_v this_o of_o a_o figure_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n his_o say_n be_v not_o true_a and_o this_o he_o prove_v by_o necromancy_n for_o say_v he_o the_o fantastical_a body_n of_o spirit_n do_v exhibit_v to_o the_o eye_n a_o certain_a figure_n or_o shape_n as_o the_o very_a nigromancer_n do_v know_v but_o what_o motion_n i_o marvel_v come_v into_o the_o man_n mind_n to_o divert_v his_o speech_n from_o mystical_a and_o sacramental_a figure_n institute_v by_o jesus_n christ_n whereof_o tertullian_n speak_v to_o figure_n and_o fation_n and_o shape_n of_o devil_n and_o spirit_n he_o be_v a_o blind_a man_n if_o he_o see_v not_o his_o own_o error_n and_o folly_n but_o lewd_a and_o wretched_a if_o he_o see_v it_o and_o yet_o against_o his_o own_o conscience_n will_v thus_o dally_v with_o god_n truth_n and_o why_o can_v he_o not_o conceive_v that_o tertullia_n word_n if_o they_o have_v concern_v any_o such_o figure_n shall_v have_v be_v false_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o new_a because_o devil_n and_o spirit_n have_v their_o figure_n and_o shape_n as_o well_o then_o as_o now_o be_v it_o strange_a unto_o he_o that_o there_o be_v sacramental_a figure_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o which_o the_o word_n of_o tertullian_n may_v be_v fit_o apply_v sure_o s._n austen_n say_v that_o 3._o that_o august_n in_o psal_n 3._o christ_n admit_v judas_n to_o that_o banquet_n wherein_o he_o commend_v to_o his_o disciple_n the_o figure_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n so_o say_v the_o old_a father_n ephrem_n that_o 4._o that_o ephrem_fw-la de_fw-fr natura_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la scrutanda_fw-la cap._n 4._o christ_n bless_v and_o break_v the_o bread_n in_o figure_n of_o his_o body_n and_o bless_a &_o give_v the_o cup_n in_o figure_n of_o his_o precious_a blood_n nay_o the_o answ_n himself_o have_v confess_v 10._o confess_v sect._n 10._o before_o that_o the_o father_n call_v the_o sacrifice_n which_o they_o speak_v of_o a_o figure_n of_o the_o death_n and_o passion_n of_o christ_n of_o such_o a_o figure_n tertullian_n speak_v and_o reason_v thus_o that_o there_o shall_v never_o have_v be_v appoint_v in_o the_o gospel_n a_o figure_n to_o represent_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n except_o there_o have_v be_v a_o true_a body_n to_o be_v represent_v thereby_o as_o for_o that_o cavil_n of_o he_o which_o he_o have_v borrow_v from_o bellarmine_n that_o if_o tertullian_n have_v not_o speak_v of_o a_o figure_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n he_o shall_v not_o have_v say_v fuisset_fw-la but_o esset_fw-la it_o be_v too_o too_o foolish_a and_o absurd_a and_o if_o he_o be_v in_o the_o grammar_n school_n he_o shall_v deserve_v to_o be_v lay_v over_o the_o form_n to_o make_v he_o know_v that_o the_o verb_n fuisset_fw-la be_v right_o use_v by_o tertullian_n with_o relation_n to_o christ_n first_o