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A12552 The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22875; ESTC S991 85,221 80

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their_o faith_n &_o then_o sin_n he_o have_v foist_v in_o a_o false_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n viz_n infant_n &_o person_n unbaptise_v &_o so_o a_o false_a form_n for_o infant_n be_v no_o more_o capable_a of_o baptism_n than_o be_v a_o fool_n o●●●d_v man_n or_o pagan_a neither_o can_v they_o express_v any_o more_o repentance_n o●_n faith_n then_o such_o person_n do_v &_o see_v the_o true_a form_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o covenant_n betwixt_o god_n &_o the_o faithful_a make_v in_o baptism_n in_o which_o christ_n be_v visible_o put_v on_o &_o that_o infant_n can_v receive_v the_o covenant_n which_o be_v only_o do_v by_o actual_a visible_a faith_n nor_o can_v seal_v back_o unto_o the_o lord_n that_o he_o be_v true_a joh._n 3.33_o as_o god_n seal_v unto_o they_o his_o truth_n by_o his_o spirit_n eph._n 1.13_o for_o the_o covenant_n be_v this_o i_o will_v be_v their_o god_n 2._o cor._n 6.16_o &_o they_o shall_v be_v all_o teach_v of_o god_n joh._n 6.45_o &_o shall_v all_o know_v god_n from_o the_o least_o unto_o the_o great_a heb._n 8.11_o &_o the_o covenant_n be_v this_o i_o will_v be_v their_o father_n 2._o cor._n 6_o 18._o &_o we_o shall_v be_v his_o son_n call_v he_o father_n by_o the_o spirit_n whereby_o we_o be_v seal_v gal._n 4.6_o hence_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o church_n of_o antichrist_n be_v constitute_v of_o a_o false_a matter_n viz_n infant_n uncapable_a of_o baptism_n &_o of_o a_o false_a son_n viz_n infant_n unable_a to_o enter_v into_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o seal_v back_o the_o covenant_n unto_o the_o lord_n &_o consent_v unto_o the_o contract_n therefore_o they_o can_v have_v no_o title_n to_o christ_n or_o any_o of_o his_o ordinance_n but_o be_v as_o pagan_n or_o gentile_n in_o the_o lord_n account_n circumcision_n therefore_o in_o the_o israelite_n apostasy_n be_v true_a circumcision_n because_o it_o be_v perform_v upon_o carnal_a israelite_n or_o proselyte_n the_o eigth_n day_n but_o baptism_n in_o popery_n be_v false_a baptism_n &_o so_o in_o the_o lord_n account_v no_o better_o then_o pagan_a wash_n be_v administer_v upon_o infant_n a_o subject_n that_o god_n never_o appoint_v to_o baptism_n a_o subject_n that_o be_v as_o uncapable_a of_o baptism_n as_o a_o infidel_n a_o mad_a man_n a_o natural_a fo●le_n or_o any_o other_o subject_n that_o can_v confess_v their_o faith_n or_o sin_n or_o be_v make_v disciple_n by_o destruction_n three_o i_o declare_v that_o israel_n be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n or_o a_o member_n or_o part_n of_o the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n though_o infinite_o corrupt_v aswell_o as_o judah_n in_o the_o day_n of_o her_o apostasy_n see_v ezechiel_n 3_o toto_fw-la &_o ezech._n 16._o toto_fw-la &_o ezech._n 20_o 28-31_a &_o therefore_o if_o judah_n retain_v true_a circumcision_n in_o her_o apostasy_n when_o the_o l._n call_v her_o a_o harlot_n ezech._n 16.35_o &_o the_o apostasy_n of_o judah_n be_v worse_o in_o the_o l._n account_v then_o that_o of_o israel_n ezech._n 16_o 47-53_a sure_o the_o circumcision_n of_o israel_n be_v also_o true_a &_o israel_n a_o true_a part_n of_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o indah_n &_o for_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n which_o some_o plead_v be_v give_v to_o israel_n by_o hosea_n hos_fw-la 2.2_o i_o say_v that_o be_v after_o the_o passover_n of_o hezechiah_n which_o be_v in_o the_o first_o year_n of_o his_o reign_n 2._o chron._n 29.3.17_o &_o 30.2_o &_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n be_v give_v the_o six_o year_n of_o his_o reign_n 2._o king_n 17.23_o compare_v with_o 2._o king_n 18.10_o yet_o nevertheless_o hosea_n call_v israel_n the_o lord_n people_n after_o he_o have_v prophesy_v of_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n to_o be_v give_v hos_fw-la 4.6.8.12_o &_o when_o the_o bill_n of_o divorce_n be_v give_v divers_a of_o israel_n i_o doubt_v not_o keep_v themselves_o pure_a from_o samaritanism_n &_o
equalise_v antichristianisme_n with_o gentilism_n the_o one_o be_v a_o apostate_n church_n the_o other_o no_o church_n the_o one_o partaker_n of_o the_o word_n &_o sacram_fw-la though_o with_o much_o coruption_n the_o other_o partaker_n of_o neither_o at_o all_o the_o one_o profess_v christ_n &_o teach_v many_o truth_n of_o god_n &_o so_o many_o as_o the_o elect_a thereby_o may_v come_v to_o faith_n apoc._n 18.4_o the_o other_o neither_o profess_v christ_n nor_o teach_v any_o truth_n of_o god_n whereby_o any_o may_v be_v convert_v to_o christ_n &_o become_v god_n people_n in_o the_o estate_n of_o gentilism_n and_o thus_o have_v make_v plain_a the_o different_a estate_n of_o the_o first_o plant_v church_n &_o we_o in_o apostasy_n i_o answer_v fi_fw-la st_o that_o church_n now_o be_v to_o be_v constitute_v if_o repair_v be_v not_o a_o fit_a spe●ch_n as_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n &_o that_o all_o such_o as_o be_v recea●ed_v in_o as_o member_n be_v unbaptise_v must_v be_v receive_v in_o 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be_v compel_v to_o run_v to_o the_o old_a testament_n &_o from_o thence_o to_o fetch_v the_o chief_a corner_n stone_n of_o your_o building_n viz._n from_o circumcision_n so_o in_o this_o second_o point_n you_o utter_o forsake_v the_o new_a testam_fw-la of_o chr._n &_o the_o true_a constitution_n apostolic_a of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n &_o set_v we_o again_o to_o school_n to_o moses_n as_o if_o chr._n have_v not_o beme_fw-mi faithful_a enough_o to_o teach_v we_o his_o new_a test_n but_o we_o must_v go_v learn_v the_o new_a test_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n chr._n of_o moses_n the_o gospel_n of_o the_o law_n and_o first_o i_o will_v know_v why_o we_o may_v not_o aswell_o with_o the_o papist_n &_o prelate_n go_v fetch_v one_o high_a priest_n from_o moses_n a_o sacrifice_a preisthood_n from_o moses_n succession_n in_o the_o ministry_n from_o moses_n &_o a_o succession_n in_o the_o church_n from_o moses_n as_o a_o succession_n in_o baptism_n from_o moses_n &_o in_o effect_n you_o do_v fetch_v a_o succession_n of_o the_o church_n from_o rome_n for_o in_o fetch_v a_o succession_n of_o baptism_n from_o rome_n which_o be_v the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n &_o in_o fetch_v a_o succession_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o seed_n of_o the_o parent_n baptize_v you_o of_o necessity_n make_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n a_o true_a church_n for_o if_o infant_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rom●_n have_v true_a title_n to_o baptism_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o some_o of_o their_o ancestor_n o●_n forefather_n that_o be_v faithful_a then_o be_v they_o the_o true_a visible_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n &_o if_o by_o reason_n of_o that_o title_n to_o baptism_n they_o receive_v true_a baptism_n in_o substance_n as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n than_o they_o have_v the_o true_a visible_a form_n of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o that_o have_v the_o true_a matter_n &_o form_n of_o a_o true_a church_n upon_o they_o be_v the_o true_a chu●●●_n &_o so_o be_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n a_o true_a visible_a church_n in_o the_o constitution_n &_o essential_a cause_n thereof_o &_o so_o as_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o church_n come_v by_o succession_n of_o genealogy_n in_o respect_n whereof_o they_o make_v so_o much_o account_n of_o genealogy_n carnal_a philip._n 3_o 3-5_a 1._o timoth._n 1.4_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o church_n come_v by_o succession_n of_o carnal_a genealogy_n through_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o our_o day_n &_o then_o as_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n viz_n infant_n descend_v of_o baptize_v parent_n be_v by_o genealogy_n &_o the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n viz_n baptism_n upon_o these_o infant_n be_v by_o descent_n &_o therefore_o the_o church_n be_v by_o succession_n i_o demand_v why_o may_v not_o the_o ministry_n be_v by_o descent_n &_o succession_n aswell_o as_o the_o church_n &_o then_o why_o be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o england_n a_o true_a church_n the_o ministry_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n or_o england_n a_o true_a ministry_n &_o so_o why_o may_v not_o you_o return_v back_o again_o into_o england_n &_o take_v up_o your_o former_a ministry_n &_o renounce_v your_o schism_n which_o you_o have_v make_v &_o so_o i_o hear_v that_o some_o be_v mind_v to_o do_v &_o true_o for_o my_o part_n i_o hold_v it_o as_o lawful_a to_o retain_v the_o church_n &_o ministry_n of_o england_n as_o to_o retain_v the_o baptism_n &_o when_o i_o shall_v yield_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n i_o will_v yield_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o church_n &_o ministry_n of_o england_n &_o i_o will_v confess_v i_o have_v be_v a_o schismatique_a &_o return_v &_o acknowledge_v my_o error_n but_o because_o i_o know_v the_o ministry_n &_o church_n of_o england_n be_v false_a therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o the_o baptism_n which_o be_v the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n be_v false_a essential_o 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matter_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v a_o true_a israelite_n in_o who_o there_o be_v no_o guile_n the_o form_n of_o their_o church_n be_v carnal_a circumcision_n a_o carnal_a seal_n genes_n 17_o 10-14_a the_o form_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n a_o new_a creature_n the_o holy_a spirit_n of_o promise_n whereby_o we_o be_v seal_v which_o be_v manifest_v by_o confession_n &_o baptism_n in_o water_n act._n 10.47_o ephes_n 1.13_o gallat_n 3.27_o &_o 6.15_o john_n 3.5_o matth._n 3.6_o roman_n 10.9_o act._n 8.36.37_o their_o carnal_a church_n in_o the_o matter_n &_o form_n come_v by_o carnal_a genealogy_n &_o so_o they_o all_o of_o they_o be_v gendr_v unto_o bondage_n under_o