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truth_n	apostle_n	faith_n	holy_a	2,000	5	4.6932	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A96932	Private-men no pulpit-men: or, A modest examination of lay-mens preaching. Discovering it to be neither warranted by the Word of God; nor allowed by the judgement, or practise, of the Churches of Christ in New-England. / Written by Giles Workman, M.A. and master of the Colledge School in Gloucester. In answer to a writing published by John Knowls.	Workman, Giles, 1604 or 5-1665.	1646 (1646)	Wing W3583; Thomason E354_9; ESTC R201096	26,327	32

Point of the use of humane l●arning I send him for his learning to Mr. Tho Goodwins Sermon intituled The great Interest of States and Kingdoms would but smile at his ignorance because he knows they are all usefull in their time and for some businesse or other though perhaps he useth not some of them in a yeer together Our Writers scoffing at them is onely a proclaiming his ignorance of them For tongues 1. I wonder at this youths impudency to jumble the Greek and Hebrew tongues in a scoffe amongst the Welsh and Irish in a jeering manner to parallel the originall Languages in which the holy Ghost was pleased the Scriptures should be first written and in which for that cause no Preacher can be unskilled but he is ea parte claudus sensible thereof as a great defect with the Welsh and Irish tongues of least use and repute 2. Extraordinary Prophets such as they 1. Cor. 14. and such our Writer pleads for must have all tongues Welsh Irish Italian French Spanish Dutch S●lavonian Indian Latin Greek Hebrew all tongues which people understand amongst whom they come otherwise the Prophet shall be unto him that heareth a Barbarian if he know not the meaning of the voice saith Paul i. understandeth not his language Wherefore the Lord 1 Cor. 14 11. furnished the Apostles and Prophets with the gift of tongues that they were able to speak to every Nation in their own language 3. Ordinary Prophets Pastors and Doctors have need of the Originall tongues especially and the Latin for the many books sake which that language is priviledged with Kno. We see men to excell this way in preaching though not indued with the knowledge of the tongues Answ And we reverence those Preachers which excell in preaching though defective in the tongues and as much distaste those that despise thus the knowledge of the tongues speaking evil of those things they know not nor the use and worth of them And albeit I will not say as one Impudentes esse Theologos Erasm qui Graecarum Hebraicarum literarum imperiti c. i. They are impudent Divines who being ignorant of the Greek and Hebrew tongues c. Though I will not say thus unlesse we Qui docet major est eo qui exhortatur Hieronym in Rom. 12. apply it onely to professed Doctors or Teachers of whom we may boldly say with him they are impudent if ignorant of those tongues they undertake that function because tongues are necessary ad bene esse to the well being of a Pastor or Preacher yet we say they are impudent who speak thus slightly of tongues in a Preacher And they that are friends not to Barbarisme errours heresies and irreligion but to the truth of God must keep up in the Ministers of the Gospel the knowledge of the tongues and all good learning with all conscionable care Quantumcunque cedendum est necessitati temporum populi Whatsoever Dispensation the necessity of the times and people may plead for unto the judgement of the State and Church I submit therein I shall now dismisse John Knowls with this advise out of the Apostle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And shall desire the Reader to take notice of the kinde of proof he useth which is not by expresse words of Scripture but all by consequence which kind of arguing we grant and maintain to be good but for as much as it is denyed to us by many among us in point of Paedobaptisme and some higher matters we will in like manner deny them the use of that weapon which they except against in us And so by their own tenent all John Knowls his arguments are nothing because onely consequentiall Therefore as such ask us where we read in Scripture that Infants were baptized So we ask them where they read in the Bible that a Lay-man a private person one out of Office did preach or is commanded so to do 'T is not ingenuous nor fair to deny Infants Baptisme and to question and deny farre greater matters saying we have not expresse words of Scripture for the same and they themselves in the mean time set up Lay-mens preaching and other things for which they have no expresse words in Scripture Therefore they must either grant Infants Baptisme and such other points contained in the Scripture by good consequence or they must lay down Lay-mens preaching and they must keep all women from the Sacrament of the Lords Supper untill they can find expresse words for it in the Bible and greater stones must they pull out of the building of faith But I dare not argue with these men ab absurdo with arguments taken from Absurdities that will and must follow because they are so ready to swallow the greatest absurdities as some have done already rather then by them to be driven to the truth Yet the holy Apostle useth this argument against the denyers of the Resurrection If saith he there be no resurrection 1 Cor. 15. 13 14. rection of the dead then Christ is not risen then is our preaching vain then your faith vain These were horrid consequences to drive them from that hereticall opinion to which those consequences were linked And it is said that any now should as they do swallow as horrid con●equences rather then vomit up again such morsels as they have taken to which these consequences are necssarily tyed Post-script I Shall now give the Reader an account why I single out Mr. Cotton to make so much use of his Testimony in this controversie and herein I shall make good what is said in the frontispice of this discourse viz. that Lay-mens preaching is not allowed by the Judgement or practise of the Churches of Christ in New-England And I choose out Mr. Cottons testimony not onely because he is a godly and learned Preacher and expounds the Scriptures alledged by J●hn Knowls for private persons preaching as I did and do against it as others also do but because in all things wherein I have made use of him as a witnesse he carries with him the Vote of the Churches of Christ in New-England and it should seem of all the Churches of the Separation in Old-England if N. H. and J. H. the publishers of one of these books of Mr. Cottons be not deceived To make this good 1. That Mr. Cottons vote carries with it the vote of the Churches of Christ in New-England we gather because the Title of one of these books wherein he speaks against Lay-mens preaching is this The Way of the Churches of Christ in New-England and the subject of the book is to shew and make good the practise of the Churches there in matter of Order and Discipline and Government Now in this book there is no such practise as private persons preaching mentioned nay Mr. Cotton expresses himself often and pathetically against it and shews us that they are so far from allowing meer Lay-men to preach that they do not allow all Ecclesiasticall Officers