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chastity_n and_o again_o there_o be_v few_o priest_n in_o these_o day_n in_o spain_n and_o apulia_n which_o do_v not_o open_o foster_v concubine_n dionysius_n carthusian_n say_v consecratis_fw-la paucissimi_fw-la eorum_fw-la proh_o dolour_n continenter_fw-la viwnt_fw-la few_o of_o they_o out_o alas_o live_v continent_o and_o s._n bridget_n the_o nun_n in_o her_o revelation_n say_v centum_fw-la not_o one_o among_o a_o hundred_o and_o the_o same_o bridget_n speak_v of_o nun_n say_v sacratarum_fw-la talia_n loca_fw-la similiora_fw-la sunt_fw-la lupanaribus_fw-la quam_fw-la sanctis_fw-la cellis_fw-la such_o place_n be_v more_o like_a brothelhouse_n and_o common_a stew_n than_o holy_a cell_n the_o vow_n of_o poverty_n bring_v forth_o perpetual_a theft_n and_o rapine_n and_o that_o from_o the_o widow_n and_o fatherless_a the_o vow_n of_o chastity_n fill_v all_o the_o earth_n with_o the_o steam_n of_o brothelsome_a impurity_n and_o the_o vow_n of_o blind_a obedience_n cause_v hateful_a and_o 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