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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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