Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	apostle_n	doctrine_n	scripture_n	3,000	5	5.6215	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A10609	A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared.	Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name.	1590 (1590)	STC 20881; ESTC S115774	171,783	224

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say_v you_o break_v therein_o the_o moral_a law_n of_o god_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n cyprian_n lib._n 3._o ep_v 10._o will_v do_v nothing_o in_o his_o charge_n without_o counsel_n of_o elder_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n and_o consent_n of_o people_n his_o meaning_n be_v he_o will_v do_v nothing_o i_o a_o privatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n by_o any_o domestical_a determination_n but_o with_o the_o privity_n and_o counsel_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o clergy_n that_o be_v but_o in_o consistory_n open_o or_o which_o be_v consult_v and_o conclude_v upon_o in_o synod_n public_o before_o so_o that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v prejudicial_a but_o these_o be_v minister_n that_o assist_v he_o a_o bishop_n the_o 7._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n the_o elder_n and_o other_o officer_n have_v power_n to_o absolve_v as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n 14._o demonstrat_n cypr._n epist_n 14._o remonstrance_n lib._n 3._o epist_n 14._o you_o quote_v not_o the_o 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not_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n but_o mere_a annual_a officer_n and_o without_o maintenance_n of_o the_o church_n as_o you_o be_v the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n it_o help_v much_o to_o make_v the_o party_n ashamed_a that_o he_o be_v excommnnicate_a by_o the_o whole_a church_n donat._n augustin_n lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la epistol_n parmen_fw-la the_o donat._n as_o also_o in_o his_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o donatist_n often_o tunc_fw-la timore_fw-la percutitur_fw-la &_o pudore_fw-la sanatur_fw-la cum_fw-la ab_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la anathematizatum_fw-la se_fw-la cernens_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n so_o be_v the_o word_n when_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v expel_v and_o blame_v he_o by_o their_o judgement_n also_o as_o the_o magistrate_n by_o his_o own_o censure_n the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n the_o elder_n have_v interest_n in_o other_o censure_n demetriaden_n demonstrat_n hierom_n 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paul_n accuse_v the_o corinthian_n because_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v not_o excommunicate_v the_o incestuous_a person_n the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n quod_fw-la non_fw-la incestum_fw-la illum_fw-la consortio_fw-la svo_fw-la eiecissent_fw-la because_o the_o corinthian_n be_v swell_v and_o have_v keep_v company_n with_o such_o a_o incestuous_a person_n but_o if_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v do_v it_o than_o there_o need_v none_o eldership_n neither_o be_v this_o their_o authority_n otherwise_o the_o church_n may_v not_o usurp_v it_o from_o they_o and_o if_o it_o be_v the_o whole_a church_n the_o eldership_n may_v not_o prejudicate_v they_o by_o their_o determination_n aforehand_o for_o if_o they_o disagree_v whether_o shall_v stand_v in_o force_n the_o 13._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 5._o demonstrat_n p._n mart._n 1._o cor_fw-la 5._o the_o elder_n have_v the_o government_n in_o excommunication_n p._n martyr_n say_v there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o elder_n 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