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himself_o who_o press_v hardly_o against_o we_o that_o which_o he_o deny_v to_o the_o papist_n be_v god_n a_o accepter_n of_o person_n be_v it_o ill_a for_o papist_n to_o plead_v universal_a consent_n and_o yet_o must_v we_o content_v ourselves_o with_o it_o &_o rest_n thereon_o shall_v he_o say_v to_o we_o 223.235_o we_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 223.235_o be_v not_o the_o whole_a church_n a_o lawful_a and_o sufficient_a witness_n in_o that_o case_n and_o that_o it_o be_v enough_o 228._o enough_o pag._n 228._o if_o any_o christian_n person_n deserve_v to_o be_v credit_v and_o yet_o shall_v he_o say_v to_o papist_n 38â—_n papist_n lib._n 4_o 38â—_n it_o be_v alike_o haereticall_a to_o believe_v without_o scripture_n aâ—_n to_o believe_v against_o scripture_n yea_o even_o to_o ourselves_o when_o he_o listen_v he_o can_v say_v 286._o say_v perp._n gov_n pag._n 286._o make_v we_o good_a proof_n out_o of_o scripture_n or_o leave_v tie_v god_n ordinance_n to_o your_o appetite_n wherefore_o we_o 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be_v his_o error_n as_o where_o he_o say_v 118._o say_v august_n epist_n 118._o si_fw-la quid_fw-la tota_fw-la hodiè_fw-la per_fw-la orbem_fw-la frequentat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la hoc_fw-la quin_fw-la ita_fw-la faciendum_fw-la sit_fw-la disputare_fw-la insolentissimae_fw-la insaniae_fw-la est_fw-la if_o the_o whole_a church_n through_o out_o the_o world_n at_o this_o day_n observe_v any_o thing_n it_o be_v insolent_a madness_n to_o reason_n against_o it_o certain_o there_o have_v be_v and_o may_v be_v be_v be_v as_o sometime_o polygamy_n be_v catholic_a error_n which_o yet_o questionless_a may_v be_v yea_o ought_v to_o be_v reprove_v by_o all_o they_o that_o understand_v they_o well_o but_o have_v our_o adversary_n a_o universal_a consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o any_o time_n alas_o they_o be_v far_o from_o it_o neither_o d._n bilson_n nor_o d._n downame_n nor_o they_o all_o have_v allege_v neither_o can_v they_o allege_v half_o a_o quarter_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n at_o 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have_v they_o universal_a &_o perpetual_a approbation_n for_o this_o nothing_o less_o i_o appeal_v herein_o to_o our_o right_a worthy_a attestator_n before_o allege_v yea_o to_o all_o indifferent_a and_o unpartial_a witness_n yea_o to_o the_o partial_a also_o in_o time_n of_o 66._o of_o pag._n 64._o 65._o 66._o antiquity_n who_o do_v stand_v with_o us._n by_o all_o true_a evidence_n it_o will_v be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o light_n at_o noon_n day_n that_o this_o foresay_a proper_a diocesan_n church_n and_o bishop_n be_v not_o in_o the_o world_n till_o after_o 200._o year_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o time_n limit_v by_o we_o indeed_o not_o till_o after_o 300._o nay_o it_o be_v after_o 400_o and_o long_o also_o as_o i_o have_v show_v 88_o show_v pag._n 66._o 67._o 88_o before_o so_o that_o both_o d._n bilson_n and_o d._n downame_n defence_n which_o they_o have_v make_v for_o
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be_v no_o power_n proper_a to_o evangelist_n we_o grant_v this_o whole_o even_o the_o conclusion_n it_o be_v another_o point_n and_o nothing_o against_o us._n the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o 2._o argument_n be_v like_a to_o the_o former_a therefore_o we_o grant_v it_o also_o for_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o timothy_n or_o titus_n be_v proper_a bishop_n which_o be_v the_o question_n yet_o in_o the_o minor_a where_o he_o say_v that_o presbytery_n claim_v this_o power_n comit_v to_o timothy_n &_o tite_n even_o to_o ordain_v examine_v censure_n &_o deprive_v pastor_n i_o deny_v this_o to_o be_v true_a presbytery_n claim_v not_o this_o power_n neither_o have_v they_o it_o proper_o &_o original_o as_o bucer_n show_v 33._o show_v pag_n 33._o before_o proper_o and_o original_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v this_o power_n the_o presbytery_n have_v only_o the_o authority_n of_o administer_a the_o same_o &_o that_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o piscator_fw-la and_o vâ—sinus_n â—1_n vâ—sinus_n pag._n 46._o â—1_n before_o do_v express_v and_o further_o i_o answer_v by_o that_o distinction_n above_o note_v this_o power_n of_o ordain_v examine_v censure_v etc._n etc._n commit_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n the_o presbytery_n in_o deed_n have_v and_o execute_v material_o but_o not_o formal_o which_o make_v his_o minor_a proposition_n to_o be_v false_a most_o clear_o his_o 3._o argument_n be_v conclude_v in_o no_o form_n but_o where_o he_o 391._o he_o perp._n gov_n pag._n 391._o say_v the_o precept_n of_o ordain_v and_o censure_v be_v deliver_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o to_o those_o that_o shall_v succeed_v they_o unto_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n ergo_fw-la timothy_n power_n &_o function_n in_o this_o behalf_n must_v be_v perpetual_a this_o be_v true_a likewise_o material_o but_o not_o formal_o their_o successor_n be_v to_o execute_v the_o same_o in_o deed_n always_o as_o touch_v the_o material_a action_n those_o thing_n must_v be_v do_v but_o under_o divers_a form_n of_o ministery_n or_o manner_n of_o administration_n here_o timothy_n and_o titus_n be_v proper_o evangelistes_n do_v these_o action_n under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o evangelisticall_a ministry_n sometime_o apostle_n do_v the_o same_o action_n but_o under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o apostolical_a ministry_n after_o they_o bishop_n do_v the_o same_o action_n also_o but_o under_o the_o form_n of_o a_o proper_a bishop_n office_n etc._n etc._n wherefore_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o these_o action_n material_o which_o timothy_n and_o titus_n do_v prove_v not_o the_o office_n and_o ministry_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n formal_o to_o be_v perpetual_a this_o be_v a_o very_a weak_a conclusion_n and_o very_o crooked_a his_o 4._o argument_n be_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n have_v so_o construe_v the_o apostle_n word_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n touch_v their_o government_n and_o he_o name_v eusebius_n jerome_n ambrose_n etc._n etc._n d._n rainolds_n answer_v hart_n the_o priest_n 267._o confer_v pag._n 267._o i_o perceive_v the_o pope_n must_v fetch_v his_o supremacy_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n you_o be_v fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n even_o so_o our_o adversary_n when_o all_o be_v do_v they_o must_v fetch_v the_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n office_n from_o earth_n and_o not_o from_o heaven_n they_o fall_v from_o scripture_n to_o eusebius_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o not_o eusebius_n not_o the_o rest_n do_v construe_v those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o belong_v only_o to_o bishop_n much_o â—â—5_n much_o see_v before_o pag._n â—24_n â—â—5_n less_o do_v the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n without_o exception_n this_o be_v a_o strange_a hyperbole_n but_o these_o writer_n acknowledge_v timothy_n and_o titus_n to_o have_v ben_fw-mi bishop_n nay_o not_o diocesan_n l._n bishop_n they_o neither_o acknowledge_v nor_o know_v any_o such_o in_o their_o time_n as_o before_o have_v be_v show_v yet_o only_o of_o these_o our_o question_n be_v again_o they_o hold_v timothy_n &_o titus_n not_o to_o be_v bishop_n at_o all_o proper_o but_o in_o a_o general_a sense_n as_o 238._o as_o pag._n 230._o 238._o before_o i_o observe_v if_o they_o mean_v otherwise_o they_o miss_v the_o truth_n say_v d._n rainolds_n 267_o conf._n p._n 267_o howbeit_o they_o suffer_v none_o but_o bishop_n either_o to_o ordain_v or_o degrade_v presbyter_n yet_o as_o i_o say_v before_o not_o absolute_o with_o out_o the_o people_n consent_n as_o our_o l._n bishop_n do_v if_o any_o among_o they_o incline_v to_o neglect_v the_o people_n herein_o they_o do_v contrary_a to_o the_o canon_n of_o those_o time_n last_o it_o be_v true_a these_o ancient_n to_o much_o rest_v on_o custom_n &_o counsaill_n of_o man_n and_o humane_a policy_n in_o set_v the_o church_n government_n they_o as_o jerome_n incline_v to_o much_o to_o approve_v diocesan_n provincial_n and_o patriarchall_a bishop_n with_o too_o absolute_a power_n only_o ground_v upon_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n though_o they_o know_v they_o want_v divine_a disposition_n whence_o afterward_o antichrist_n easy_o spring_v up_o now_o than_o i_o pray_v with_o what_o colour_n can_v doct._n bilson_n from_o those_o precept_n to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n plead_v for_o our_o diocesan_n and_o provincial_n l._n bishop_n who_o they_o nothing_o concern_v and_o say_v the_o word_n be_v singular_a the_o charge_n be_v vehement_a the_o party_n be_v bishop_n 299._o bishop_n perp._n gov_n pag._n 299._o and_o how_o vain_o do_v he_o insult_v without_o reason_n charge_v we_o that_o 30â—_n that_o pag._n 30â—_n fire_n will_v better_o agree_v with_o water_n than_o we_o with_o ourselves_o which_o be_v his_o familiar_a custom_n not_o we_o after_o he_o let_v we_o see_v what_o d._n downame_n say_v for_o timothy_n and_o titus_n bishoprike_v true_o in_o effect_n he_o say_v nothing_o more_o for_o he_o 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