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A13578 A sermon teaching discretion in matters of religion, and touching certayne abuses nowe in the Churche preached at Paules Crosse the 21. of Nouember by Robert Temple Bachelor in Diuinitie sometimes of Magdalene Colledge in Oxforde. Temple, Robert, Bachelor in Diuinitie. 1592 (1592) STC 23869; ESTC S100993 26,698 73

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inuicem sacerdotum glutino copulata You ought to know that the Bishop is in the church and the church in the Bishop they are not in the church whosoeuer they bee that are not in the Bishop and they doe vainelie flatter themselues which hauing no peace with Gods Priestes commit themselues in close manner to bee pertakers with some certaine persons whereas Gods Church being Catholique is not rent nor deuided but knit and coupled togither by fast consent of Ministers of the Church agreeing one with another Aug. Ioh. 7 ●ract 33. I will saye vnto them as somtime Augustine sayd Habemus spiritum sanctum si amamus Ecclesiam amamus autem si in eius compage et charitate constitimus Wee haue the holie spirit if wee loue the Church and wee loue it if wee persist in vnitie and loue of it But now all this while if there be anie that in singlenesse of hart godlines of zeale desires somthinges amended I speake not against them for as I am not with them that vtterly blaspheme and affirme wee haue nothing aright As anone you shall heare toward the end so I am not against them that discretly blame and accuse some thinges amisse in the church Therefore this is my meaning Good things loose the grace of their goodnesse if they be not wel handled Concertation for reformation more eager and bitter a great deale thē is behoofefull or needfull is like vnto madnes a very seditiouse vexation of the common wealth doth often follow the turbulent affection of the Church Sozom. lib. 8 cap. 25. The Emperour Constantine doth his parte whose care is both to lead the people along in vniformitie of religion Euseb vita Constan lib. 2. cap. 63. and heale the grieuous sicknes of the bodie of the whole common wealth and I hope the like be endeuoured by the Cleargie of the land that was signified by the Bishops of the East to them of the west Church in their letters from their Synods Theod. lib. 5. cap. 9. concerning the necessarie great cace to recouer the Church Nowe I would haue the people do as they of Antioch did who for 30. Theod. lib. 2. cap. 31. yeares space endured the Arrians schisme with patience still hoping for a better day vntill indeed their blasphemie against the Apostles doctrine and conspiracie against christians was intollerable Then howe much more ought wee with longer patience among our selues tarrie for reformation of some things amis vpon a better time Hope pray for reformation sith wee haue more then 30. yeares now enioyed the free doctrine of Christ and his Apostles and still haue as much as euer wee can do to preuaile against the seditious bloody enemies of the gospell The second ●art Prophe●ie We come nowe to prophecie the second thing to be handled the most excellent gift of all the Apostle meaneth not that peculiar prophecie foretelling the comming of christ forethreating the punishment of sinne beginning at Samuell Act. 3.24 Math. 11.3 the number wherof were frequent before Christs comming but now very rare but in the sēce as he speaketh else where Let vs prophecie according to the proportion of faith Rom. 12.6 And againe he that prophecieth 1. Cor. 14.3 speaketh vnto men vnto aedifieng and to exhortatiō and to comfort preferring it before all other giftes For the ample vse principall benefit for as all other giftes do respect the profite and aedification of the Church Ephes 4.11 1. Cor. 12.7 so prophecie especially For saluation cammeth by fayth Rom. 10.14 fayth by hearing and hearing by the worde of God It is the verye same wee call preaching set downe in the scripture by the Apostle in variable phrase of speach as these apt to teach 1. Tim. 3.2 2. Tim. 2.15 2. Tim. 4.2 deuiding the worde of truth aright preach the word be instant in season and out of season improue rebuke exhort with all long suffering and doctrines holding fast that faythfull word according able to exhort by wholesome doctrine Tit. 1.9 Tit. 2.1 and conuince them that say contrarie Speake the thinge whiche becommeth wholesome doctrine Therefore the whole scripture is called a most sure worde of prophecie 2. Pet. 1.19 20 being of no priuate interpretation because prophecie came not in old time by the will of man but holye men of God spake as they were moued by the holy ghost As the vse of all scriptures is very manifolde for the whole scripture is giuen by inspiration of God and is profitable to teach 2. Tim. 3.10 to conuince to correct and to instruct in righteousnes that the man of God may be absolut being made perfect vnto all good workes and whatsoeuer thinges are written aforetime are written for our learning Rom. 15.4 that wee throughe patience and consolation of the Scriptures might haue hope Right so hee that is furnished according to the qualities afore mentioned and can aplie the scriptures to the same end as shal be requisite may be called in this sence of the Apostle a prophet of the gospell Augustine saith speaking of Christ Agust tho 6. tract 24. Erat autem dominus prophetarum impletor prophetarum sanctificator prophetarum sed et propheta propheta dominus et verbū dei dominus et nullus propheta sine verbo dei prophetat Cum prophetis verbum dei et prophetae verbum dei Meruerunt priora tempora prophetas afflatos et impletos verbo dei mernimus nos prophetam ipsum verbum dei But it was he that set forth the prophets fulfilled all thinges the prophets told should happen sanctified the prophets the Lord was that prophet the Lord was that worde of God and no prophet doth prophecie without gods word In old time they had the benefit of prophets inspired and filled with the word of God but we haue this pleasure the verie word of God to be our prophet This is the gift which the Apostle acountes most excellente aboue the rest and therefore not common but rare not easie but difficulte as be all thinges which are excellent for hee sayth he that speaketh straunge languages edifieth himselfe but he that prophecieth 1. Co. 14.4.12 13. edifieth the Church Againe forasmuch as you couet spirituall giftes seeke that you may excell to the edifying of the Church 18.19 let him that speaketh in a straunge language pray that he may interpret Againe he thanketh God he spake languages more thē all the rest yet he had rather in the Church speake fiue wordes with his vnderstanding that he might instruct others then ten thousand wordes in a straunge tongue This oughte to strike into the hartes of all christians a deeper consideratiō of a more godlye dutie and first of the ministerie then of the multitude Touching our selues to shūne some faults verie common among vs Insufficienci● of ministers As first Insufficiencie For it is not for euerie one
his visitatiō in Asia spy out as in my cleargy mē as come in by simonie some in one dioces some in an other and put them out if there be 13. bishops at a clap Ambros epis● lib. 50. orat ● Auxent Shall Ambrose sentēce be heard Quid sunt cathedrae nisi honores quid sunt columbae nisi mentes simplices vel animae fidem cādidam puram sequentes ergo iubetur exire qui dignitates vendit et honores iubetur exire qui vendere vult simplices mentes fideliū What are the seates but places of honour what are the doues but the seelie mindes soules of such as followe the cleare and pure fayth then he is commaunded to go forth of the church that sells dignities and honours he is cōmaunded to go out of the church that will sell the seelie consciēces of the faithful Basill doth call it transitum ad Gehēnan Hellferrie and so I feare me it is in deed both for the priest the people Barnard tels a tale of Martin a Cardinaall prelate whoe returning in his Legacie from Dacia was so poore his money and horses fayling him that he coulde scarse come to Florence The Bishop of Florence gaue him a horse which brought him to Pise where Barnard reporteth he was at the same time the next daye after the Bishop of Florence came to Pise requiring for the dispatch of some cause hee had in lawe the testimonie of his freindes presuming of the Cardinall amonge the rest for his late good turne came to him for his voice then sayde Martin you haue deceiued mee sir I litle knewe ye had such busines in hand the very same houre resigned his horse Barnard bringes this in to vpbrayde both the insolencie and simonie of the Court of Rome in Pope Eugenius time because Martin passing throughe a Countrie of gold and siluer tooke no knowledge of it moreouer would not be so much as suspected to take any gift at all As litle as I like Martin Marprelate surelie this was Martin good-prelate Martin good prelat and I would to God that euery one both Bishop and other minister were such a Martin Now concerning your selues of the Auditory Contempt in the common people Manie faultes likewise are common in you Contempt of Prophecie is one and the first For whereas the end of this notable gift of Prophecie is edification as ye heard afore the people in these daies are growne to a hatefull contempt and rebellious disobeidience of the word preached as the Prophet sayd in his time Ierm 5.13 The warning of the Prophets is but winde the worde of God is not in them They say prophecie not Mich. 2.6.11 yee shall not prophecie vnto vs no ye shall not Euerye paynfull minister may finde Bernards wordes to be true Berna cant serm 42. Coarctore duobus et quid eligam nescio placere ne mihi in eo quod locutus sum quoniam quod debui feci an penitentiam agere super verbo meo quia quod volui non recepi Besids a threefold perill of the labour and worke in respect of our selues conscience intelligēce vtteraunce Conscience to be rightlie called by inward testimonie Intelligence to perceiue the deuine sence of the scripture vtteraunce to teach the people of which three the first is requisit the second hard the thirde in maner harder then the second yee do ad a threefold harder difficultie then all that is to procure your teachablenes in hearing faythfulnes in beleeuing holinesse in obeying For oh Lord who hath giuē credence to our preaching Esay 53.1 Rom. 10. ●6 Esay 65.2 Rom. 10.21 or who hath beleeued our report All the day long do we stretch forth our hands to a disobedient gaynsaying people but erre not I pray you and bee not deceiued Greater far authority is the prophesie in the gospell then of old far more fearefull to dispise the one then contēne the other Iohn Baptist Math. 11.6 more then a prophet none greater among mē begottē of women yet the least in the kingdome of heauen greater then hee The Apostle commaundes vs not to despise prophecying for no doubt hee that despiseth 1. Thes 5.19 1. Thes 4.8 1. Sam. 8.7 despiseth not man but god who hath giuen you his holy spirit The Lord sayd to Samuell the prophet They haue not cast thee away but cast me away so sayde Christ to his disciples Luk. 10.16 He that heareth you heareth mee and he that dispiseth you dispiseth me he that dispiseth me despiseth him that sent me And in deed all former prophets in their visions did leuell with their eyes and looke strait on Christ the only prophet of all To him al gaue witnes that through his name al that beleue in him should receaue remission of sinnes Ambrose saith Act. 10.43 Amb. Luc. 9. lib. 7. Et hodie Moses docet et hodie Elias loquitur et hodie in maiori gloria Mosen videre possimus Euē now a dayes Moses teacheth and now a dayes Elias speaketh and now a dayes wee may see Moyses in a great deale more glorie Nay Barnard seemeth to require the grace of prophecie in as manie of your selues as are deuout and godlie For saith hee Vbi angelica in hoc corpore conuersatio in corde prophetica expectatio in vtroque apostolica perfectio inuenitur gratus iste cumulus gratiarum Where we haue in this our bodie a conuersatiō like vnto the Angels in the hart an hope as the prophets had in both the Apostles perfectiō how great an aboundance is it of Gods graces Arogancie in ●he people Arrogancie is an other fault in our people For manie haue a dedignatiō to bee taught surmising themselues more sufficiently to haue the sence of the spirit and sincerlie the knowledg of the truth thē any learned preacher of them all As though it were a protrit base matter that St. Paule speaketh of ● Cor. 2.10 to search the deepe things of God And whereas the Apostle would haue the spirits euen of the Prophets subiecte ● Cor. 14.32 to the Prophets 2. Pet. 1.20 2. Tim. 3 1● 1 Cor. 12 2● these will admit no censure of anie else but onlie their owne priuate interpretation yet being no Prophets as though Prophecie were of priuate interpretation Greg. nazia● Theol. orat 1 all were Apostles all Prophets all Teachers Gregorie Nazianzen writeth of Eunomius who as though hee were rapt into heauen after Elias 2. Reg. 2.11 made worthye to talke with God Exod. 19.9 and beholde him in a cloud after Moyses taken vp into Paradice hearing impossible things to be vttered 2. Cor. 12. ● after Paule doth sayth he in one daies space make manie mo Sainctes and creat deuines as it were inspiring learning into them causing many conuenticles of vnlearned praters and of such an immediate vpstart spirit aboue the sober