Selected quad for the lemma: truth_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
truth_n	apostle_n	church_n	write_v	1,911	5	5.7275	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
B16717	Advice from a Catholick to his Protestant friend, touching the doctrine of purgatory ...		1687 (1687)	Wing A632; ESTC R7268	153,167	378

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