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A10609 A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name. 1590 (1590) STC 20881; ESTC S115774 171,783 224

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and_o himself_o to_o hell_n may_v not_o be_v admit_v demonstra_fw-la demonstra_fw-la he_o that_o be_v not_o able_a to_o teach_v be_v so_o ergo_fw-la 15._o matth._n 14._o the_o mayor_n be_v a_o great_a way_n about_o the_o minor_a be_v false_a in_o itself_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n and_o in_o allegation_n of_o the_o text_n if_o the_o blind_a lead_v the_o blind_a v._o matt._n 15.14_o v._o both_o fall_n into_o the_o ditch_n it_o be_v too_o too_o peremptory_a to_o make_v every_o downfall_n into_o hell_n a_o man_n may_v fall_v and_o rise_v again_o septies_fw-la in_o die_fw-la cadit_fw-la iustus_fw-la what_o blind_a guide_n teach_v you_o to_o expound_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d into_o hell_n in_o foveam_fw-la for_o the_o local_a place_n of_o hell_n he_o that_o be_v not_o able_a to_o teach_v in_o any_o tolerable_a measure_n be_v a_o blind_a guide_n but_o god_n forbid_v he_o shall_v lead_v god_n people_n down_o to_o hell_n of_o necessity_n but_o if_o you_o mean_v here_o as_o before_o 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