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A10609 A remonstrance: or plaine detection of some of the faults and hideous sores of such sillie syllogismes and impertinent allegations, as out of sundrie factious pamphlets and rhapsodies, are cobled vp together in a booke, entituled, A demonstration of discipline wherein also, the true state of the controuersie of most of the points in variance, is (by the way) declared. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629, attributed name. 1590 (1590) STC 20881; ESTC S115774 171,783 224

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