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A65264	A fuller answer to Elimas the sorcerer or to the most material part (of a feign'd memoriall) toward the discovery of the Popish Plot, with modest reflections upon a pretended declaration (of the late Dutchess) for charging her religion : prelates ... in a letter addressed to Mr. Thomas Jones by Richard Watson ... / published by Monsieur Maimburg ...	Watson, Richard, 1612-1685.	1683 (1683)	Wing W1090; ESTC R34094	54,514	31

or observation beyond what she had seen at some solemn Anniversary Omgang or Procession if their Canvas Frock or Covering had a woman under it wherein the fervour or excessive Calenture of their devotion has now and then cost a life until restrained or absolutely inhibited by the Bishop of the place Their Morning Devotions were more moderate their early Masses indeed well frequented though the Host to few or none of them delivered some private Office perhaps that of the H. Virgin or other Saint seperately acted or passed over with a silent motion of the lip their habit loose and not over decent I will not say over modest for a Church-Assembly some slight Veil or Huyck● as they call it rendred Calyptra or Palla as toga a tegendo soon put on and as soon off much after the rate of our morning Lecturers by Candel-light heretofore At their solemn Vespers on great Festivals I have known their Churches well warmed by the zeal of that sex alone or in the company of few men beside their Priests And a person of Honour once told me after he came home soundly crowded for his curiosity to see their Ceremonies at such a time that having darted himself sodainly behind some Pillar of a Church for concealment when he more deliberately looked about him and discovered none but women in full Congregation from the Altar to the very door apprehending he might be known or suspected to be upon espial as indeed h was he soon Retreated with some difficulty being well pleased he had so made a seasonable escape But for all this her Highnesses credulity of their fervour and devotion in one sex or other or in both Ie n' avois pas neantmoin le moindre doute que la creance d' Eglise Anglicane ne fust la veritable c. she had not the least doubt as yet of the Faith and truth professed by the Church of England nor any scruple or trouble of conscience upon that subject until the November before she declared when she began to read the History of our Reformation composed by Dr. Heylin so much esteemed by persons the best able to judge of it in the whole Realm who praepossessed Her with good assurance that the said book would clear all doubt and scruple of conscience that could be made concerning the said Reformation Before I proceed further in my Reflexions upon this Paragraph I wish I could be well satisfied in somewhat I understand not which seemeth little to authentize the Declaration of a so prudent and wary Princess as you and I Mr. Iones had known her H. to be in all that passed from her within our notice was it not just before that she declared her self free from all doubt and scruple c. What Reason then had those able judicious persons to put her H. upon the task of reading Dr. Heylin's History as the only book stored with sufficiency to deliver Consciences out of all such perplexities when she had acquainted them that none she had was it ever her custome think we in her garden pleasures to quit a smooth or Carpet walk on set purpose to entangle and embroyl her self in a thicket of Thorns and Bryars to sting her thoughts with the sense of an overgrown Prince's lewdnes in another Century which if it were so ominous as to dash a blot at so great a distance upon our Escuchion or Entail a curse on Posterity to or beyond the third and fourth Generation her Highnesses personal share could be apprehended but as of one among the many having no lineal descent from his Loines nor collateral Relation to him But let the air of this madvertance or what else it is expire and vanish And take we into consideration the unexpected disappointment her H. met with in reading the Doctor 's Book so highly commended to her so great as great could be clear contrary to what was promised I' ay trouve au contraire c. so much it seems in the generall as besides her own dissatisfaction she thinkes it of no force or efficacy to becalme any troubled Spirit among the mean and ordinary sort of people and I think so too it being writ in another style then what is levell'd to such low capacities and in the matter having a mixture of such variety as at every turne allmost the thread is broken and they lose their way But you and I Mr. Iones can very well remember that our eminent Princess was none of the les esprits mediocres being more mercuriall then most of the first or second rank in her Sex and I believe it may be our joint opinion that her R. H. was not at that time of day to seek satisfaction about the principles of our Reformation nor a stranger to other faithfull Writers upon that Subject who speak no less truth and as plain English alltogether in the case as the worthy and never enough magnified Dr. Heylyn beside that on this occasion comes into my mind an expression to our purpose uttered many years since by a learned and judicious person who was far better acquainted with her R. H. religious searches in that kind then you and I can pretend to be viz. That he was enough assured she understood the state of the question better then her noble Father who at the same time was the great Minister of State and however otherwise unfortunate the most memorable Restorer and establisher of our ruin'd Church Before I come to the three particulars that entangled this pious Lady I can not but take notice of two other wherewith she antecedently chargeth our Reformation 1. Changing the face of the ancient Church and 2. Renouncing the Catholique Religion both which are most certainly disclaimed by our most learned and most impartiall Controvertists and the former of the two disowned by that brisk French Gentleman Mounsieur de la Militiere in his address to our King which very probably her R. H. had read long before her return into England being Printed with the Lord Bishop of Derry's Answer at the Hague 1654. where the French Counsellor condescends to say That the Protestants of this Kingdome by Episcopacy Liturgy and Ceremonies which were retained had preserved the face or image of the Catholique Church And I remember when I was in Flanders an old Benedictine of our nation asking me how I liked the decency of their Churches and solemnity of their Service or publique Worship I answered to this purpose That I observed little more in substance then what he might have formerly seen if he had pleased in our King's Chappell St. Pauls London and St. Peter's Westminster with the other Cathedrals we had in England whereto he somewhat sarcastically replied That in Archbishop Laud's time indeed which he needed not to have specified in absolute derogation to all the former from the first Reformation your Church washed and beautified her face a little but for all that more intrinsecally she was a very slut Let them look to

without errour that 's no quaestion and as little there is That a Councel hath it This in the abstract is as home as need to be in the point but this afterward is somewhat moderated by distinguishing the infallibility of the after-Councels from that of the Apostles themselves Acts 15. where they say of themselves and the Councel held by them It seemes good to the Holy Ghost and to us who might indeed well say it but he does not find that any General Councel since though they did implore as they ought the assistance of that Blessed Spirit did ever take upon them to say in-terminis in express terms of their Definitions Visum est Spiritui Sancto Nobis It seemed good to the Holy Ghost and to us Acknowledging thereby as I conceive a great deal of difference in the Certainty of those things which a Generall Councel had after determined in the Church and those which were settled by the Apostles when they sate in Councel But then again though he did not find That they used this speech punctually in terms yet the Fathers when they met in Councel were Confident and spake it out That They had assistance from the Holy Ghost yet so as that They neither took Themselves nor the Councels They sate in as Infallibly Guided by the Holy Ghost as the Apostles were And he saies Valentia is very right in concluding That though the Councel say they are gathered together in the Holy Ghost yet the Fathers are neither arrogant in using the speech nor yet Infallible for all that If other their Writers had used the like moderation perhaps her R. H. had not been so much concerned about it I expect nothing more will be obtained from other our Controvertists towards the satisfaction of any in like condition yet because Mr. Chillingworth had a more peircing eye of reason then most of the rest I will summe up his method so short as I can and see what we can make good out of it This he layes as the groundwork of his Discourse with F. Knott That the distinction of Points Fundamental and not Fundamental is in this Controversie good and pertinent And that the Catholique Church may erre in the latter kind of the said Points 2. That it is not so prodigiously strange as his adversary thinkes That we will never be induced to give in a particular Catalogue what points be Fundamental Pag. 119. 3. That may be Fundamental and necessary to one which to another is not so Which variety of Circumstances makes it imposible to set down an exact Catalogue of Fundamentals and therefore we must content our selves by a general description to tell what is Fundamental 4. It is sufficient for any mans salvation to believe that the Scripture is true and containes all things necessary for salvation and to do his best endeavour to find and believe the true sense of it without delivering any particular Catalogue of Fundamentals Pag. 120. 5. Though the Church may erre in some points not Fundamental yet may she have certainty enough in proposing others 6. He that grants the Church infallible in Fundamentals and ascribes to the Apostles the infallible guidance of the Spirit in a more high and absolute manner than to any since them limits not the Apostles infallibility to Fundamentals 7. The Apostles were led into all Truths by the Spirit efficaciter The Church is led into all Truths by the Apostle writings sufficienter Pag. 131. led so as that she may follow but not so that she must These assertions of his influence the most part of his long Discourse with the learned Iesuite If ought more there be to strengthen e'm it may fall in with what I have yet to add relating to the invaledity of her R. Highnesses motive for deserting our Church upon account of any assurance she could have of being more firmely and finally settled in this point upon the grounds and principles thereof in the Church of Rome For yeilding pro dato not concesso what the greatest Doctors there would have more particularly those of ours that went over to them before this good Lady I demand what found they there beyond what they had here at home I will fix upon one or two of them in whose conversion they so good as tell us they are most triumphant Let the first be Dr. Vane Chaplain to his late Majesty who in the very entrance to his sixth Chapter of The Infallibility of the Church begins thus Now that the Catholique Church which Society of Christians soever it be is the onely faithful and true witness of the matter of God's word to tell us what it is and what is not it the only true interpreter of the meaning of God's word and the last and finall judge of all controversies that may arise in matters of Religion and that she is not onely true but that she can not be otherwise seeing she is infallible Our Church which is Catholique too in concurrence with that he went to is he knew extended to the first four Generall Councels to the Fathers of the first five or six hundred yeares from whom we receive the Canon we have of the H. Bible and to whose writings we go for the interpretation of any Texts that any way seem doubtfull if necessary to be resolved In others not so considerable for ought I know we leave every man to his own diligence in comparing Text with Text for mutuall illustration and to his own reason for inference of the best truth from the premises he makes himself or if so ignorant he can make none we send him to the lips of his Parochiall Priest or some other at his choyce which certainly should preserve at least so much knowledge as to determine the little difficulties brought to him according to the sense of our Nationall Church if such as whereof she hath taken any notice For Catholique Tradition we go to the Catholique Writers so truely called For what is unwritten we have no infallible living Oracle to consult no more have they for ought I see whereof any use can be made to present satisfaction and therein we may cry quitts as afterward I shall briefly shew The Conclusion herein lay'd down by D. Cressy is as followeth That it belongs alone to the Catholique Church which is the onely Depositary of Divine Revelations authoritatively and with obligation to propose those Revelations to all Christians c. to interpret the Holy Scriptures and to determine all emergent Controversies and this to the end of the world in as much as the Church by vertue of Christ's promises and assistance is not onely indefectible but continually preserved in all truth Of what Divine Revelations the Catholique Church is Depositary I have already owned viz. of the H. Scriptures and the Primitive Fathers in their Writings as being the best and surest Interpreters The difficulty yet sticks at the determining emergent Controversies which may be multiplied in infinitum by too dubious and