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promise_n they_o break_v mere_o out_o of_o wantonness_n well_o may_v the_o apostle_n say_v that_o they_o have_v damnation_n for_o it_o but_o all_o this_o prove_v not_o that_o it_o be_v sinful_a and_o damnable_a for_o any_o that_o have_v vow_v continency_n afterward_o to_o marry_v though_o bellarmine_n will_v by_o no_o mean_n endure_v that_o those_o word_n 30._o of_o the_o apostle_n i_o will_v therefore_o that_o the_o young_a widow_n marry_v etc._n etc._n 1_o tim._n 5._o 14._o be_v understand_v of_o such_o as_o have_v profess_v continency_n as_o if_o the_o apostle_n will_v have_v such_o to_o marry_v if_o they_o can_v not_o contain_v so_o also_o estius_n upon_o the_o place_n who_o say_v that_o otherwise_o the_o apostle_n shall_v 14._o cast_v they_o headlong_o into_o damnation_n for_o if_o they_o have_v damnation_n who_o have_v a_o will_v to_o marry_v how_o much_o more_o they_o that_o do_v marry_v but_o though_o i_o think_v that_o the_o apostle_n direct_v meaning_n be_v that_o the_o young_a widow_n shall_v not_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o number_n of_o those_o who_o be_v by_o their_o place_n and_o calling_n to_o profess_v continency_n into_o which_o number_n he_o will_v have_v none_o admit_v under_o 60._o year_n old_a yet_o estius_n his_o reason_n be_v not_o valid_a for_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o young_a widow_n be_v admit_v into_o that_o number_n and_o afterward_o willing_a to_o marry_v or_o actual_o marry_v therefore_o have_v damnation_n but_o because_o they_o will_v marry_v out_o of_o wantonness_n and_o so_o out_o of_o wantonness_n make_v void_a their_o first_o faith_n viz._n their_o promise_n of_o continency_n make_v to_o the_o church_n if_o not_o their_o christian_a faith_n which_o before_o they_o profess_v notwithstanding_o which_o sentence_n it_o follow_v not_o but_o
and_o bellarmine_n pretend_v that_o athan._n the_o chaldie_n paraphra_v and_o the_o rabbin_n do_v expound_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d gehinnom_n which_o signify_v the_o place_n where_o the_o damn_a be_v in_o torment_n but_o 1._o if_o it_o be_v so_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o that_o limbus_n which_o they_o contend_v for_o 2._o neither_o be_v it_o true_a that_o those_o author_n do_v usual_o so_o expound_v the_o word_n for_o the_o chaldie_n paraphra_v for_o the_o most_o part_n keep_v the_o hebrew_n word_n sheol_n itself_o only_o sometime_o it_o be_v a_o little_a change_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shiol_n and_o many_o time_n do_v he_o use_v the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d kebura_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d keburta_fw-mi that_o be_v the_o grave_a to_o express_v the_o hebrew_n sheol_n by_o or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o in_o effect_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v keburta_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n the_o house_n of_o the_o grave_a as_o job._n 7._o 9_o and_o 14._o 13._o and_o 17._o 13._o and_o 16._o psal_n 89._o 48._o and_o 141._o 7._o and_o eccles_n 9_o 10._o in_o all_o these_o place_n do_v the_o chaldie_n pharaphra_v render_v the_o hebrew_n word_n sheol_n the_o grave_n or_o the_o house_n of_o the_o grave_n let_v any_o romanist_n show_v that_o he_o render_v it_o so_o often_o by_o that_o word_n which_o signify_v the_o place_n of_o torment_n though_o as_o i_o say_v before_o that_o be_v nothing_o to_o their_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o thus_o also_o do_v the_o rabbin_n interpret_v the_o word_n sheol_n r._n levi_n say_v that_o sheol_n do_v signify_v the_o grave_a and_o that_o therefore_o it_o be_v put_v for_o death_n 2_o sam._n 22._o 6._o 10._o so_o also_o r._n nathan_n mordecai_n in_o his_o hebrew_a concordance_n say_v that_o the_o interpretation_n of_o sheol_n be_v the_o grave_a aben_n ezra_n also_o say_v the_o same_o in_o his_o commentary_n on_o gen._n 37._o 35._o and_o moreover_o he_o tax_v the_o vulgar_a latin_a translator_n for_o interpret_n sheol_n there_o hell_n suppose_v he_o to_o have_v mean_v the_o hell_n of_o the_o damn_a kimchi_n likewise_o say_v that_o those_o word_n psal_n 16._o 10._o thou_o will_v not_o suffer_v thy_o holy_a one_o to_o see_v corruption_n be_v but_o a_o repetition_n of_o that_o which_o go_v before_o thou_o will_v not_o leave_v my_o soul_n in_o hell_n which_o show_v that_o he_o take_v sheol_n there_o render_v hell_n for_o the_o grave_a it_o be_v true_a sometime_o the_o rabbin_n expound_v sheol_n by_o gehinnam_fw-la i._n e._n hell_n the_o place_n of_o torment_n but_o they_o do_v not_o hold_v that_o to_o be_v the_o simple_a and_o genuine_a signification_n of_o the_o word_n as_o appear_v by_o r._n solomon_n on_o gen._n 37._o 35._o who_o say_v that_o sheol_n there_o according_a to_o the_o literal_a exposition_n be_v the_o grave_a and_o that_o 35._o jacob_n meaning_n be_v that_o he_o will_v go_v mourning_n to_o the_o grave_a and_o will_v not_o be_v comfort_v but_o that_o 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there_o by_o soul_n be_v mean_v body_n or_o person_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o body_n for_o so_o general_o both_o protestant_n and_o romanist_n do_v hold_v that_o not_o the_o soul_n proper_o but_o the_o body_n of_o child_n do_v proceed_v from_o the_o loin_n of_o their_o parent_n yea_o and_o sometime_o by_o soul_n be_v mean_v the_o body_n when_o the_o soul_n be_v depart_v out_o of_o it_o as_o num._n 19_o 13._o whosoever_o touch_v the_o dead_a body_n of_o any_o man_n etc._n etc._n there_o the_o word_n render_v 〈◊〉_d dead_a body_n be_v that_o which_o psal_n 16._o 10._o and_o so_o usual_o elsewhere_o be_v render_v soul_n 12._o bellarmine_n to_o take_v away_o this_o answer_n say_v that_o there_o be_v great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o hebrew_n word_n nephesh_n and_o the_o greek_a psyche_n both_o which_o be_v render_v soul_n for_o nephesh_n he_o say_v be_v a_o most_o general_a word_n and_o without_o any_o trope_n do_v signify_v both_o soul_n and_o live_a creature_n yea_o and_o the_o body_n also_o but_o the_o greek_a psyche_n he_o say_v and_o so_o the_o latin_a anima_fw-la be_v not_o so_o general_a as_o without_o a_o trope_n to_o signify_v the_o whole_a live_a creature_n and_o therefore_o in_o body_n leviticus_n he_o say_v one_o part_n be_v not_o put_v for_o another_o viz._n the_o soul_n for_o the_o body_n but_o there_o be_v the_o word_n that_o usual_o signify_v the_o body_n itself_o or_o the_o whole_a be_v put_v for_o the_o part_n that_o be_v the_o live_a creature_n for_o the_o body_n but_o in_o act_n 2._o be_v use_v the_o word_n psyche_n which_o do_v signify_v the_o soul_n only_o thus_o bellarmine_n but_o a_o pity_n it_o be_v to_o see_v how_o a_o learned_a man_n rather_o than_o he_o will_v submit_v to_o truth_n do_v plunge_v himself_o into_o absurdity_n yea_o more_o absurdity_n than_o one_o but_o to_o pass_v by_o the_o rest_n this_o be_v most_o gross_a that_o bellarmine_n do_v so_o distinguish_v betwixt_o nephesh_n and_o psyche_n as_o if_o the_o former_a sometime_o do_v signify_v the_o whole_a live_a creature_n or_o the_o body_n only_o but_o not_o so_o the_o latter_a when_o as_o in_o these_o very_a place_n of_o leviticus_n which_o bellarmine_n do_v speak_v of_o viz._n levit._n 21._o 1._o and_o 11._o as_o in_o the_o hebrew_n 11._o the_o word_n nephesh_n so_o in_o the_o greek_a the_o word_n psyche_n be_v use_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v apparent_o false_a that_o the_o greek_a word_n psyche_n do_v signify_v the_o soul_n only_o yea_o but_o say_v bellarmine_n when_o even_o nephesh_n be_v oppose_v to_o flesh_n it_o ibid._n can_v be_v take_v for_o flesh_n now_o here_o soul_n be_v oppose_v to_o flesh_n his_o soul_n be_v not_o leave_v in_o hell_n neither_o his_o flesh_n do_v see_v corruption_n act_n 2._o 31._o and_o therefore_o here_o by_o no_o mean_n can_v signify_v a_o dead_a body_n i_o answer_v that_o in_o those_o word_n act_n 2._o 31._o there_o be_v no_o opposition_n betwixt_o soul_n and_o flesh_n no_o more_o than_o there_o be_v a_o opposition_n betwixt_o leave_n and_o forsake_v in_o those_o word_n heb._n 13._o 6._o i_o will_v not_o leave_v thou_o nor_o forsake_v thou_o so_o then_o notwithstanding_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v object_v in_o those_o word_n thou_o will_v not_o leave_v my_o soul_n in_o hell_n by_o hell_n may_v be_v mean_v the_o grave_a and_o by_o soul_n the_o body_n but_o if_o the_o word_n soul_n be_v take_v proper_o then_o by_o hell_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v the_o power_n of_o death_n or_o the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o thus_o do_v romish_a writer_n sometime_o expound_v the_o word_n hell_n as_o jansenius_n upon_o those_o word_n prov._n 15._o 11._o hell_n and_o destruction_n be_v before_o the_o 11._o lord_n note_n that_o by_o hell_n and_o destruction_n be_v signify_v the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a not_o only_o of_o the_o damn_a as_o we_o usual_o conceive_v when_o we_o hear_v those_o word_n but_o the_o state_n of_o all_o in_o general_a that_o be_v depart_v out_o of_o this_o life_n so_o genebrard_n expound_v that_o psalm_n 30._o 3._o thou_o have_v bring_v up_o my_o soul_n from_o sheol_n 3._o from_o hell_n as_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a read_v it_o he_o expound_v it_o i_o say_v thus_o thou_o have_v deliver_v i_o from_o the_o state_n of_o the_o dead_a so_o likewise_o the_o same_o author_n upon_o psal_n 88_o or_o 89._o 48._o 48._o say_v hell_n do_v signify_v the_o whole_a state_n of_o the_o dead_a thus_o general_o all_o that_o die_v whether_o they_o be_v godly_a or_o wicked_a be_v say_v as_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o body_n to_o go_v to_o the_o grave_a so_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o descend_v into_o hell_n this_o be_v the_o law_n of_o humane_a necessity_n say_v hilary_n that_o
catechism_n set_v forth_o by_o the_o decree_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n decalogi_fw-la come_v to_o explain_v the_o ten_o commandment_n say_v although_o the_o law_n be_v give_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o mount_n to_o the_o jew_n yet_o because_o by_o nature_n it_o be_v long_o before_o imprint_v in_o the_o mind_n of_o all_o and_o so_o god_n will_v have_v all_o at_o all_o time_n to_o obey_v he_o it_o will_v be_v very_o profitable_a diligent_o to_o explain_v these_o word_n in_o which_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o moses_n the_o law_n be_v promulgate_v to_o the_o hebrew_n etc._n etc._n here_o they_o clear_o intimate_v that_o the_o ten_o commandment_n do_v not_o concern_v christian_n as_o publish_v by_o moses_n but_o as_o imprint_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n by_o nature_n which_o be_v all_o that_o luther_n teach_v who_o both_o in_o his_o great_a and_o lesser_a catechism_n expound_v the_o ten_o commandment_n which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v do_v if_o he_o have_v hold_v that_o they_o do_v not_o bind_v christian_n to_o the_o observe_v of_o they_o but_o this_o doctrine_n he_o express_o disclaim_v as_o i_o have_v already_o show_v 14._o luther_n be_v tax_v for_o say_v that_o faith_n except_o it_o be_v without_o even_o the_o least_o good_a work_n do_v not_o justify_v and_o be_v not_o obj._n faith_n nothing_o be_v allege_v out_o of_o luther_n write_n for_o proof_n of_o answ_n this_o but_o only_o câ—vels_v defence_n of_o mr._n hooker_n be_v cite_v which_o book_n i_o have_v not_o to_o peruse_v yet_o i_o find_v bellarminâ—_n cite_v luther_n own_a word_n 121._o to_o this_o very_a purpose_n but_o luther_n meaning_n i_o suppose_v be_v only_o this_o that_o in_o the_o work_n of_o justification_n faith_n be_v altogether_o without_o work_n so_o that_o no_o work_n concur_v with_o it_o unto_o justification_n not_o but_o that_o otherwise_o faith_n be_v accompany_v with_o good_a work_n so_o that_o where_o faith_n true_o justify_v faith_n be_v there_o will_v be_v good_a work_n also_o 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