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A02637 A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie. Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1568 (1568) STC 12763; ESTC S112480 542,777 903

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of_o late_a by_o the_o learned_a jesuite_n of_o dilinga_n in_o germany_n entitle_v augstuiniana_n confession_n where_o in_o manner_n no_o word_n be_v find_v beside_o that_o which_o be_v in_o s._n augustin_n own_o work_n and_o there_o all_o seven_o sacrament_n be_v prove_v at_o large_a out_o of_o s._n augustin_n alone_o and_o that_o may_v suffice_v in_o this_o behalf_n for_o if_o you_o refuse_v s._n augustine_n authority_n i_o know_v not_o who_o authority_n you_o will_v allow_v of_o the_o power_n of_o baptism_n in_o infant_n and_o of_o concupiscence_n the_o 4._o chapter_n harding_n what_o m._n jewel_n will_v say_v in_o this_o matter_n 215._o incertainty_n of_o m._n jewel_n doctrine_n pag._n 215._o pag._n 216._o pag._n 215._o i_o can_v not_o certain_o tell_v he_o be_v so_o inconstant_a and_o like_o a_o man_n that_o be_v half_a ashamed_a of_o his_o doctrine_n for_o one_o while_o he_o say_v the_o sacrament_n depend_v of_o no_o man_n at_o another_o time_n the_o just_a man_n shall_v live_v not_o by_o the_o faith_n of_o his_o parent_n but_o by_o his_o own_o faith_n and_o yet_o he_o say_v s._n augustine_n justinus_n martyr_n s._n cyprian_n s._n hierom_n and_o other_o write_v plain_o that_o the_o faith_n of_o the_o parent_n do_v help_v but_o how_o true_o that_o be_v write_v he_o will_v not_o say_v again_o he_o say_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o void_a of_o faith_n 216._o pag._n 216._o a_o little_a after_o he_o write_v god_n be_v able_a to_o work_v salvation_n both_o with_o the_o sacrament_n and_o without_o they_o and_o then_o he_o mingle_v the_o sign_n with_o the_o thing_n and_o the_o thing_n with_o the_o sign_n last_o of_o all_o he_o say_v in_o deed_n 217._o pag._n 217._o and_o in_o precise_a manner_n of_o speech_n salvation_n must_v be_v seek_v in_o christ_n alone_o and_o not_o in_o any_o outward_a sign_n in_o effect_n he_o stick_v and_o make_v much_o a_o do_v and_o fain_o he_o will_v if_o he_o dare_v bring_v forth_o this_o proposition_n plain_o condemn_v of_o the_o church_n in_o old_a time_n that_o infant_n may_v be_v save_v without_o baptism_n but_o it_o be_v the_o heresy_n of_o pelagius_n and_o the_o same_o be_v against_o the_o word_n of_o god_n say_v 3._o joban_n 3._o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n he_o can_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n for_o whereas_o say_v with_o the_o vow_n and_o desire_v of_o baptism_n in_o a_o time_n of_o necessity_n do_v serve_v he_o that_o have_v discretion_n to_o believe_v 23._o augustinus_n epist_n 23._o see_v the_o say_a faith_n be_v not_o in_o the_o child_n except_o baptism_n which_o be_v the_o sacrament_n of_o faith_n be_v receive_v of_o he_o it_o do_v follow_v that_o child_n die_v without_o baptism_n be_v condemn_v this_o much_o may_v suffice_v for_o that_o point_n jewel_n concupiscence_n remain_v in_o the_o faithful_a after_o baptism_n be_v sin_n force_v s._n paul_n to_o cry_v out_o 7._o rom._n 7._o i_o see_v a_o other_o law_n in_o my_o member_n fight_v against_o the_o law_n of_o my_o mind_n and_o lead_v i_o prisoner_n to_o the_o law_n of_o sin_n and_o again_o o_o wretched_a man_n that_o i_o be_o who_o shall_v deliver_v i_o from_o this_o body_n of_o death_n harding_n 3._o 1._o pet._n 3._o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v that_o whereas_o baptism_n save_v we_o as_o s._n peter_n say_v all_o sin_n be_v wash_v away_o therein_o and_o we_o be_v make_v a_o new_a creature_n according_a to_o that_o s._n paul_n say_v in_o christ_n jesus_n galatas_fw-la gal._n 6._o chrysost_n ibidem_fw-la ad_fw-la galatas_fw-la neither_o circumcision_n be_v aught_o worth_a nor_o uncircuncision_n but_o the_o new_a creature_n mean_v by_o a_o new_a creature_n as_o s._n chrysostom_n and_o other_o holy_a father_n expound_v it_o that_o our_o nature_n which_o be_v wax_v old_a in_o sin_n repentè_fw-fr baptismi_fw-la lavacro_fw-la renovata_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la aliter_fw-la quàm_fw-la si_fw-la denu●_n esset_fw-la condita_fw-la be_v renew_a in_o the_o wash_n of_o baptism_n none_o otherwise_o then_o if_o it_o have_v be_v make_v a_o new_a so_o that_o no_o sin_n at_o all_o can_v be_v in_o we_o now_o baptize_v if_o we_o have_v worthy_o receive_v baptism_n which_o notwithstanding_o there_o be_v evident_o perceive_v in_o our_o flesh_n a_o certain_a resistance_n and_o rebellion_n against_o reason_n in_o such_o wise_n that_o as_o our_o mind_n and_o soul_n be_v endue_v with_o grace_n desire_v to_o do_v all_o goodness_n so_o do_v our_o sense_n and_o sensual_a appetite_n entice_v and_o provoke_v we_o to_o much_o naughtiness_n now_o because_o the_o sensual_a appetite_n delit_v we_o and_o so_o overcom_v we_o common_o more_o or_o less_o therefore_o it_o be_v call_v the_o law_n of_o the_o flesh_n or_o the_o law_n which_o the_o flesh_n will_v glad_o follow_v and_o obey_v which_o law_n or_o concupiscence_n lead_v we_o prisoner_n to_o sin_n so_o much_o as_o lie_v in_o it_o and_o so_o oft_o as_o we_o obey_v it_o whether_o concupiscence_n be_v sin_n though_o we_o consent_v not_o unto_o it_o but_o the_o point_n of_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o it_o be_v true_o and_o in_o deed_n a_o sin_n in_o we_o although_o we_o consent_v not_o unto_o it_o we_o say_v it_o be_v not_o proper_o sin_n m._n jewel_n defend_v the_o contrary_a but_o s._n paul_n word_n prove_v not_o the_o concupiscence_n which_o remain_v to_o be_v a_o sin_n except_o we_o obey_v it_o otherwise_o if_o of_o itself_o it_o be_v sin_n we_o have_v not_o be_v make_v a_o new_a creature_n in_o baptism_n for_o the_o creature_n wherein_o sin_n be_v remain_v still_o a_o old_a creature_n but_o albeit_o all_o sin_n be_v take_v away_o in_o baptism_n yet_o god_n suffer_v the_o concupiscence_n to_o remain_v in_o our_o flesh_n partly_o that_o we_o may_v by_o the_o rebellion_n thereof_o perceive_v from_o what_o a_o enemy_n our_o soul_n be_v deliver_v and_o so_o geve_v thanks_n to_o god_n as_o the_o apostle_n do_v in_o this_o place_n 7._o rom._n 7._o which_o m._n jewel_n allege_v partly_o that_o we_o may_v be_v exercise_v with_o tentation_n to_o the_o end_n we_o may_v be_v crown_v for_o our_o victory_n i_o therefore_o say_v s._n paul_n in_o mind_n or_o soul_n obey_v the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o in_o flesh_n i_o obey_v the_o law_n of_o sin_n and_o who_o know_v not_o it_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o mind_n and_o not_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o make_v a_o man_n to_o be_v a_o sinner_n concupiscence_n be_v in_o my_o flesh_n only_o and_o not_o in_o my_o mind_n except_o i_o consent_v unto_o it_o and_o so_o take_v it_o into_o my_o mind_n and_o then_o in_o truth_n it_o be_v a_o sin_n and_o this_o be_v the_o very_a discourse_n of_o s._n paul_n for_o when_o he_o have_v say_v in_o mind_n or_o in_o the_o high_a part_n of_o my_o soul_n i_o obey_v the_o law_n of_o god_n he_o conclude_v thereupon_o 8._o rom._n 8._o nihil_fw-la ergo_fw-la damnationis_fw-la est_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la jesu_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la secundùm_fw-la carnem_fw-la ambulant_a therefore_o no_o part_n of_o damnation_n be_v to_o they_o who_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n who_o walk_v not_o according_a to_o the_o flesh_n for_o if_o a_o man_n walk_v according_a to_o the_o flesh_n then_o in_o deed_n his_o concupiscence_n which_o before_o be_v no_o sin_n be_v become_v a_o sin_n thus_o albeit_o our_o flesh_n be_v the_o flesh_n of_o death_n that_o be_v to_o say_v ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la mortal_a as_o s._n chrysostom_n expound_v it_o and_o therefore_o s._n paul_n will_v fain_o be_v deliver_v from_o it_o as_o fear_v lest_o he_o shall_v at_o any_o time_n yield_v unto_o it_o yet_o if_o he_o do_v not_o yield_v unto_o it_o 8._o rom._n 8._o there_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o for_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n which_o be_v the_o grace_n that_o justifi_v we_o in_o baptism_n deliver_v he_o from_o the_o law_n of_o sin_n and_o of_o death_n everlasting_a jewel_n 217._o 84._o lib._n 10._o epist_n 84._o s._n ambrose_n say_v there_o be_v not_o find_v in_o any_o man_n such_o concord_n between_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n but_o that_o the_o la_o of_o concupiscence_n which_o be_v plant_v in_o the_o member_n fight_v against_o the_o la_o of_o the_o mind_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n the_o word_n of_o s._n john_n the_o apostle_n be_v take_v 1._o 1._o joan._n 1._o as_o speak_v in_o in_o the_o person_n of_o all_o saint_n if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o deceive_v ourselves_o and_o there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o us._n harding_n i_o grant_v that_o in_o this_o continual_a fight_n we_o be_v daily_o so_o conquer_v in_o some_o small_a sin_n or_o other_o that_o we_o never_o remain_v any_o long_a time_n without_o venial_a sin_n but_o that_o