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A87009 An ansvver to the animadversions on the dissertations touching Ignatius's epistles, and the episcopacie in them asserted. By H. Hammond, D.D. Hammond, Henry, 1605-1660.; Owen, John, 1616-1683. 1654 (1654) Wing H514; Thomason E814_13; ESTC R202518 185,935 227

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direct_a contrary_n in_o any_o epistle_n of_o ignatius_n or_o other_o write_n of_o those_o time_n 19_o it_o be_v time_n that_o i_o now_o come_v to_o the_o interpretation_n of_o his_o red_a ecclesias_fw-la the_o particular_n of_o his_o demand_n concern_v the_o church_n which_o he_o have_v find_v in_o ignatius_n and_o i_o be_o accuse_v for_o rob_v he_o of_o and_o though_o i_o have_v already_o say_v enough_o of_o this_o in_o the_o gross_a yet_o i_o shall_v spare_v no_o pain_n to_o give_v punctual_a answer_n to_o every_o branch_n of_o it_o 20._o and_o 1_o say_v he_o give_v we_o a_o church_n all_o who_o member_n be_v holy_a call_v sanctify_a justify_v live_v stone_n temple_n for_o the_o holy_a ghost_n saint_n believer_n unite_v to_o christ_n the_o head_n by_o the_o spirit_n that_o be_v give_v to_o they_o and_o dwell_v in_o they_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v very_o brief_o that_o in_o all_o ignatius_n epistle_n there_o be_v no_o title_n so_o much_o as_o of_o intimation_n that_o any_o church_n to_o which_o he_o write_v or_o which_o be_v under_o his_o government_n or_o which_o he_o have_v any_o occasion_n to_o speak_v of_o be_v thus_o qualify_v particular_o all_o who_o member_n be_v holy_a or_o sanctify_a second_o i_o be_o not_o sure_a that_o if_o that_o be_v the_o ignatian_a model_n of_o a_o church_n this_o prefacer_n will_v be_v able_a to_o parallel_v it_o in_o any_o congregation_n which_o these_o last_o not_o best_a da●es_n have_v bring_v out_o among_o we_o three_o that_o this_o might_n as_o well_o be_v do_v and_o as_o probable_o hope_v under_o a_o subordination_n of_o officer_n and_o governor_n such_o as_o we_o prelatist_n pretend_v to_o as_o in_o any_o equal_a number_n of_o man_n by_o whatsoever_o other_o form_n compact_v or_o knit_v together_o this_o may_v suffice_v without_o far_a insist_v till_o some_o reason_n be_v urge_v to_o the_o contrary_a against_o any_o of_o these_o three_o affirmation_n 21._o second_o he_o demand_v a_o church_n who_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o multitude_n be_v where_o the_o bishop_n appear_v this_o character_n of_o a_o church_n or_o rather_o exhortation_n how_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v be_v indeed_o set_v down_o by_o 6._o ignatius_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n where_o in_o pursuit_n of_o the_o advice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v all_o man_n follow_v the_o bishop_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v no_o man_n do_v aught_o of_o the_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n without_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o eucharist_n be_v to_o be_v account_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d firm_a or_o valid_a which_o be_v do_v by_o the_o bishop_n or_o by_o some_o commissionated_a by_o he_o he_o then_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d where_o the_o bishop_n appear_v there_o let_v the_o multitude_n be_v as_o where_o christ_n jesus_n be_v there_o be_v the_o catholic_n church_n make_v in_o the_o latter_a part_n that_o difference_n between_o the_o orthodox_n and_o haeretical_a apostate_n gnostic_n that_o the_o former_a acknowledge_v and_o adhere_v to_o he_o and_o the_o late_a deny_v he_o and_o proportionable_o in_o the_o former_a make_v the_o same_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o eucharist_n due_o and_o undue_o administer_v that_o where_o it-was_a due_o there_o the_o people_n receive_v it_o in_o communion_n with_o their_o bishop_n either_o of_o he_o or_o of_o some_o body_n commissionated_a by_o he_o which_o as_o it_o be_v competent_o distant_a from_o their_o model_n where_o neither_o bishop_n nor_o any_o from_o he_o commissionated_a be_v receive_v so_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v far_o enough_o from_o any_o contrariety_n to_o the_o prelatist_n or_o favour_n to_o the_o prefacers_n pretension_n what_o particle_n of_o it_o it_o be_v which_o to_o his_o fancy_n look_v so_o agreeable_a i_o can_v divine_v and_o so_o have_v no_o more_o to_o reply_v to_o it_o 22._o three_o he_o demand_v a_o church_n that_o do_v nothing_o by_o its_o member_n apart_o but_o when_o it_o be_v gather_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o i_o presume_v belong_v to_o a_o place_n in_o the_o epistle_n to_o the_o magnesian_o which_o we_o shall_v meet_v again_o in_o his_o last_o demand_n and_o there_o consider_v it_o more_o full_o at_o the_o present_a let_v it_o suffice_v that_o it_o be_v no_o more_o than_o this_o that_o no_o man_n be_v to_o do_v any_o thing_n on_o his_o own_o head_n or_o without_o the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n but_o when_o they_o meet_v together_o they_o shall_v join_v in_o one_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o sure_a may_v be_v grant_v without_o any_o damage_n to_o the_o prelatist_n who_o desire_v as_o much_o as_o any_o that_o public_a assembly_n be_v frequent_v which_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o be_v gather_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o no_o inferior_a