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A43741 Fair-play on both sides: or, the surest way to heaven Discovered in a dispute between a Roman-Catholick, and a Protestant. Hieron, Samuel, 1576?-1617. 1666 (1666) Wing H1943; ESTC R224206 36,352 39

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when Christ comes to judge us all Then faith on earth shall be but small (z) Luke 18.8 How is the Church a City then (a) Mat. 5.14 Rais'd on a mount and seen of men And how a light set up on high That all that will may it espie How shall we to the Church complain (b) Mat. 18.17 If of the Church no shew remain This is thy Popish reasoning And Scriptures plain misconstruing The true meaning of those places Christ doth th' Apostles counsel give Soundly to preach and well to live Because their places were in sight And 't was their Office to give light They erring many might mislead Which in their steps might hap to tread If that their Doctrine were unsound In falshood many might be drown'd It was in vain for them to ween In doing ill not to be seen You are saith Christ upon a Mount To be well mark't make full account (c) Thus Chry. and Theophilact expounded this place 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 This shews wherein our duty stands And what God looks for at our hands Who call'd are to the Ministry To labour in God's Husbandry (d) 1 Cor. 3.9 But from hence how may proved be The Churches visibility This place affords a slender proof And little for the Popes behoof Yet you perhaps will urge it still The Pastors are set on a hill And called Light even so say I But all men can them not descry For those which want spiritual eyes (e) Ephes 1.13 Nor are by searching (f) John 5.39 Scripture-wise (g) Ephes 5.15 17. This mounted City cannot see Nor where these lightsome Pastors be (h) This was the Answer of Aug. to the Donatists Tract 1. in Epi. Johan Christ bids us we the Church should tell If things be not reformed well By Church he means all such as be Indued with Authority (i) The same which Paul calleth Presbyterian 1 Tim. 4.14 The Eldership These Office-bearers all men see In times of setled Sovereignty Yea and among themselves th' are known † This answer the Papists cannot mislike for they make use of it for themselves Rhem. in Apoc. 12.6 The error of this Popish Argument When th' outward state is overthrown When that was said in special You turn to Church in general Thereby you may deceive some fools But soon it will be seen in Schools This argument of outward state Which for a mark you intimate Against that thing doth strongly make Which you to prove do undertake Romes state hath sometimes been obscur'd And hath disgraces foul endur'd Burnt (k) By the Goths 547. sackt (l) By Charles Duke of Burbon in the dayes of Pope Clement the seventh whereupon was made t●… clause in the Letany Sancta Maria c. O holy Mary pray for Pope Clement c. some Popes imprisoned (m) John 14. Boniface 8. about the year 1304. Some glad to fly (n) John 17. fled to Hetruria some banished (o) Vigilius 18. and Gregory the ninth about the year 1227. Where did your glorious Church abide When Popes were glad themselves to hide Peace peace no more of this for shame Rome saith you will her clean defame † Succession Succession commeth next in place Whereby thou seek'st thy Church to grace Your turn Succession cannot serve If from the Truth Succession swerve The Jewish Church from Aaron A just descent might stand upon Even when they crucifi'd our Lord And hated all that lov'd his Word If we shall say that Church was true Consisting of so vile a crue We cast Christ and the Apostles out Among the base and damned rout The Grecian Churches at this day For their defence as much can say (p) At Constantinople there hath been a perpetual succession from Saint Andrew Nicep At Alexandria from Saint Mark Yet you of them do give this doom That in Gods Church they have no room Yet if Succession were a sign Which your grand Captain Bellarmine Dares not avouch (q) Bellarmine saith it followeth negatively that where there is no succession there is no Church but not affirmatively that where there is succession there is a Church Lib. 4. de Eccl. cap. 8. I fain would see How Rome can prove her pedigree You call your Church Saint Peters Chair As though the Pope were Peters Heir But if that ground we once deny What Papist can it verifie You cannot prove by holy Writ Peter at Rome did Bishop sit The onely place which you do name (r) 1 Pet. 4.13 The Rhemists say that thereby Babylon is meaned Rome and so they confess Rome to be Babylon Returneth to your greatest shame The things you fetch from Historie Touching this point do not agree (ſ) Orosius saith Peter came to Rome in the beginning of Claudius reign Hierom in the 2d year others in the 4th year other the 13. year Damasus saith he came thither in Neroes reign so that there is no certainty in that which they make an undoubted principle And what our part hath herein sed By Papists stands unanswered But if he Bishop were indeed Tell me who next did him succeed Some Clement (t) The Popes decrees hold so and some Linus hold (u) Dorotheus Euseb lib. 3. cap. 4. Thus your succession is control'd Once was a Pope suppos'd a man † John 8. Platina The womans name was Gilbertia a Dutch woman of Burguntium But prov'd in time a Curtezan Then either your Succession shrank Or you must put her in the rank When Popes there were some 2. (x) Two Popes together Anno 1083. Anno 1058. and 1062. or 3. (y) Bened. 9. Silvest 3. Greg. 6. all at one time and at another time Ben. 1. a Spanish Pope Greg. 12. a French Pope and John 23. an Italian Pope Where then might your succession be One Schisme held almost forty year (z) 39. years Pope against Pope as doth appear (a) Let their own Authors speak One Council (b) The Council of Constance did these Popes put down And to another gave the Crown When these false Popes the place possest I think you 'l say Succession ceast Popish Rime Unity ANother mark there is truly The Church must have Unity As our Saviour hath foretold One Shepheard and one fold One is my Spouse one is my Love One is my Darling and my Dove This is his Spouse and at some time He doth resemble it to a Vine His Father is the Husbandman A Branch is every Christian This is his Body Mystical The which he doth his Kingdom call Whereof Saint Peter had the Keys (c) What became of the Keys when Pope Julius the second threw them into Tyber And his Successors have alwayes (d) As though no body did succeed Peter but the Pope who is rather the successor of Romulus then Peter as Pope Hadrian the fourth said when he died And likewise Saint Paul saith One Baptisme and one
form of Absolution to Penitentiaries runneth thus The passion of Christ and the merits of the blessed Virgin of Saint Peter and Saint Paul and of other he and she Saints be unto thee in remission of sins We do the Virgin Blessed call (b) Luke 1.48 And say she passed Women all But when you call her Gate of Grace (c) Coeli fenestra Regis alti janua c. We say Christs honour you deface The thing that made her Spirit glad Was that she such a Saviour had (d) Luke 1.47 Can she on him commandment have Whose help she needed her to save * What honour is due to the Saints This honour to the Saints we give We crave Gods grace like them to live (e) 1 Cor. 11.1 We care to keep their memory (f) Heb. 13.7 And God in them we glorifie (g) Gal. 1.23 † Holy Ceremonies Whoso readeth the Canon of the Mass shall there see a world of idle and ridiculous ceremonies Your Ceremonies idle be And favour most of vanity You stand so much on outward show That you the substance overthrow With Images and Pictures gay You steal the Peoples hearts away Well may you please the outward eye The spirit you do not edifie A pretty play to see a Priest Tossing his God between his fist Such gestures and such apish mowes Such warbling and such antick showes Now bends now ducks now stands upright Then turns him to the Peoples sight Now sighs now twenty Crosses makes And ore his head the Wafer shakes Then washeth then the Chalice licks And shuts his Idol in the Pix But still the man is much afeard Lest ought should hang upon his Beard Mean while the Vulgar in a maze Upon the Caky Idol gaze And knock and kneel and think them well That they have heard the sacring Bell. Tell me I pray thee doth God will With such fond Rites his Church to fill They never came into his thought (i) Jerem. 19.5 Tradition onely hath them brought (k) They say indeed that they have the form of the Mass by the Tradition of the Apostles Rhem. 1 Cor. 11. s 22 but the truth is that it was now a piece and then a piece patched up by their own Popes Sixtus 2. brought in the Sanctus Innocentius 1. the Pax. Leo 1. added this clause A holy Sacrifice and unbloody Host Gelasius the Prefaces Collects Gradualls Symmachus the Gloria in excelsis Agapetus 1. Processions Pelagius 2. nine Prefaces before the Canon Sergius 1. Agnus Dei and Gregory 1. confesseth that one Scolasticus made most part of the Canon Holy Mass or Sacrifice Your Rites and Mass do well agree Both full of gross Idolatry Both are unholy and unsound Both wanting holy Scripture-ground You say that in the Eucharist To God is offered by the Priest A Sacrifice in Wine and Bread (l) Rhem. Heb. 7. sect 8. Concil Trident ses 22. cap. 1. Both for the living and the dead (m) Conc. Trid. ses 22. cap. 2. Look first what Christ did institute (n) Mat. 26.26 Mark 14.22 Luke 22.19 1 Cor. 11.24 And that one place shall you refute What he did we must do likewise (o) This do ye 1 Cor. 11.25 There 's no word of a Sacrifice By this said Christ Remember me That shews he would not present be (p) Bodily We keep such things in memory Which we behold not really The Priests of old did every day Some Off'ring on the Altar lay (q) Heb. 10.11 Christs holy Off'ring is but one Performed by himself alone (r) Heb. 10.12 If Christ shall often offred be We shall his sufferings multiplie As on the Cross he died not twice So there 's no second Sacrifice (ſ) Heb. 9.25 to 28. There 's now no sacrificing Priest That Office rested upon Christ (t) Heb. 7.23 24 It comes to none successively 'T is his for all Eternity (u) The office of a Priest so far forth as we understand thereby a Sacrificer whom the Grecians call Hiereus belongs onely to Christ and cannot pass from him to another neither the name of Priest in that sense but as the name of Priest cometh from the Greek word Presbyteros which signifieth an Elder it cannot simply bee misliked How can a Mass a pardon bring Sith 't is a bloodless Offering † Heb. 9.22 Christ hath procur'd Remission (x) Heb. 9.12 What needs a new Oblation (y) Heb. 10.18 See then your holy Sacrifice A thing without all warrantize Of Scriptures or of Writers sage Which lived in the purest Age. (z) The Mass as it is now was not in use in the Church 1200. years after Christ It never came to the full perfection though it was in hatching before until the Council of Lateran under Inno. 3. The Sacraments † Holy Sacraments in number twain You eek't have with a longer train The seven-headed Romish Beast (a) Revel 17.7 The two to seven hath encreas'd Both Baptism (b) Mat. 28.19 and that holy feast (c) 1 Col. 11.24 c. Commanded are by Christs beheast Shew me but one commandement To prove another Sacrament (d) No Father within an 100. year after Christ acknowledged seven Sacraments of the New Testament And Augustine saith The Sacraments are Numero paucissima fewest in number Ep. 118. Now two is the least number Two in the Old (e) Viz. Ordinary two in the New So shall we have proportion true Name what in th' ancient (f) Viz. The form of Gods worship under the Law Liturgy Your five false Symboles do supply (g) The Sacraments of the New Testament succeed the Sacraments of the Old if then they can name no Sacraments of the Old Testament in the place whereof their five supposed Sacraments should come then they cannot justifie them to be Sacraments Those Sacraments which holy be You stain'd have with your Pedlary In Baptism Oyl Lights Spittle Cream Your Exorcism and conjur'd Stream Were these invented by Gods Spirit Or found you them in holy Writ Whence had you all that rituous store Us'd in the Mass and nam'd before You speak next of † Holy dayes Festivities And holy-day Solemnities Thou think'st by this with easiness To prove thy Churches holiness Truth is mens Conscience you enthral (h) Bellarmine saith men are bound in Conscience to keep the Festivities of the Church lib. 3. cap. 10. prop 3. and so do the Rhemists Gal. 4. s 5. To many an idle Festival (i) very near 200. if we put these together which were determined of Concil Oxon. sub Steph. and which we read in the marginal Notes upon the Rhemists Testament You 'll have them be as strictly kept As Gods own day by his precept Of feasts some low some higher be Some great some lesser in degree Some double more some double less A treble fault some to transgress So with your doubling and redoubling